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1 hour ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

This was about how far into the season that the Tigers were when they cut ties with Jacques Jones and Craig Monroe, wasn't it?

I think they generally give about 2 months of rope as I recall.

I think it was late July before Monroe was cut loose. 

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I would be fine with letting go of victor and using goodrum at first or something like that, so that Cabrera could DH for an extended period of time. 

Is there a contending g team out there that could use a CF like Martin?

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3 minutes ago, Shelton said:

I would be fine with letting go of victor and using goodrum at first or something like that, so that Cabrera could DH for an extended period of time. 

Is there a contending g team out there that could use a CF like Martin?

Hicks?

Martin would be a good fourth outfielder.  Is there a reason why he is not stealing bases this year though?

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Split
Home
Away
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Home 341 34 1273 1159 168 311 80 12 30 162 13 4 92 241 .268 .327 .436 .763 505 22 13 1 8 6 10 .314 112 109
Away 299 28 1067 976 96 233 61 4 21 92 16 8 71 231 .239 .296 .374 .670 365 19 12 1 7 4 16 .290 87 86

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4.94 runs scored per game at home

3.42 runs scored per game on the road

I can't locate the home road splits for things like RISP, and other clutch stats, but i would think those would mirror the overall stats listed above

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Player: Away

Player: Away
Rk Name G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA
OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
1 Nick Castellanos 27 26 116 110 12 38 7 1 3 15 1 0 5 24 .345 .379 .509 .888 56 0 1 0 0 1 1 .422 98 146
2 Victor Martinez 26 21 92 79 7 22 3 0 3 11 0 0 11 11 .278 .370 .430 .800 34 4 1 0 1 2 0 .288 135 124
3 Miguel Cabrera 14 14 55 49 4 13 4 0 1 11 0 0 5 8 .265 .327 .408 .735 20 3 0 0 1 1 0 .293 68 105
4 Leonys Martin 25 24 108 99 16 26 5 1 4 9 1 3 9 20 .263 .324 .455 .779 45 1 0 0 0 0 3 .293 102 115
5 Jeimer Candelario 20 19 86 76 12 19 9 1 2 8 0 0 8 21 .250 .337 .474 .811 36 1 2 0 0 0 2 .321 86 124
6 James McCann 21 21 87 80 2 20 3 0 1 5 0 1 6 20 .250 .310 .325 .635 26 1 1 0 0 0 1 .322 85 79
7 John Hicks 18 18 74 70 9 17 6 0 3 9 0 0 3 23 .243 .270 .457 .727 32 2 0 0 1 0 0 .311 91 99
8 Niko Goodrum 20 15 70 64 7 14 6 0 2 6 5 1 6 20 .219 .286 .406 .692 26 1 0 0 0 0 2 .286 75 91
9 Jose Iglesias 27 27 108 97 9 21 5 0 1 6 5 1 6 14 .216 .280 .299 .579 29 2 3 1 1 0 2 .241 71 63
10 Grayson Greiner 4 4 16 14 0 3 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 3 .214 .250 .214 .464 3 0 0 0 1 0 1 .250 37 32
11 Dixon Machado 26 24 90 83 7 16 5 0 0 4 0 1 6 17 .193 .256 .253 .509 21 0 1 0 0 0 1 .242 80 44
12 Pete Kozma 5 3 11 11 2 2 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 .182 .182 .455 .636 5 0 0 0 0 0 1 .100 145 70
13 Victor Reyes 11 4 18 18 4 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 6 .167 .167 .167 .333 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 48 -6
14 JaCoby Jones 26 21 94 87 3 14 7 0 0 4 3 0 4 28 .161 .223 .241 .465 21 4 3 0 0 0 1 .237 49 30
15 Mikie Mahtook 10 8 34 31 2 5 1 1 0 2 0 0 1 10 .161 .176 .258 .435 8 0 0 0 2 0 1 .

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Player: Home

Player: Home
Rk Name G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA
OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
1 Miguel Cabrera 18 17 77 65 11 22 7 0 2 11 0 0 12 14 .338 .442 .538 .980 35 3 0 0 0 2 0 .408 124 170
2 Grayson Greiner 4 4 14 12 2 4 2 0 0 3 0 0 2 3 .333 .429 .500 .929 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 .444 173 157
3 Nick Castellanos 32 32 138 128 19 42 13 2 3 18 0 0 7 28 .328 .377 .531 .908 68 2 3 0 0 1 3 .402 102 148
4 John Hicks 20 19 76 70 9 21 2 0 2 11 0 0 6 18 .300 .355 .414 .770 29 3 0 0 0 0 0 .380 108 112
5 Jose Iglesias 31 30 113 106 14 31 11 1 1 14 4 2 5 11 .292 .330 .443 .774 47 2 1 1 0 0 0 .319 126 112
6 Niko Goodrum 24 18 73 64 10 18 4 1 3 11 0 0 8 18 .281 .370 .516 .885 33 0 1 0 0 1 0 .349 124 142
7 Jeimer Candelario 30 30 133 115 18 32 5 2 7 18 1 0 16 31 .278 .376 .539 .915 62 0 2 0 0 0 1 .325 109 150
8 JaCoby Jones 30 28 114 106 21 28 5 3 4 11 2 2 2 27 .264 .298 .481 .779 51 2 4 0 2 0 1 .312 142 111
9 James McCann 26 26 104 93 15 24 6 0 3 15 0 0 9 16 .258 .317 .419 .737 39 5 0 0 2 0 2 .276 112 102
10 Leonys Martin 24 22 101 90 18 22 6 1 3 11 1 0 10 20 .244 .327 .433 .760 39 0 1 0 0 0 1 .284 98 108
11 Dixon Machado 29 27 106 99 13 23 8 0 1 15 1 0 5 17 .232 .274 .343 .617 34 1 1 0 1 0 0 .268 117 70
12 Victor Martinez 28 27 112 104 6 24 6 0 1 12 0 0 6 10 .231 .268 .317 .585 33 4 0 0 2 1 1 .242 72 61
13 Mikie Mahtook 11 9 41 38 2 8 2 0 0 2 2 0 3 9 .211 .268 .263 .531 10 0 0 0 0 1 0 .276 119 48
14 Victor Reyes 18 6 26 26 6 5 1 2 0 4 2 0 0 7 .192 .192 .385 .577 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 .263 136 54
15 Pete Kozma 10 7 30 29 2 5 2 0 0 5 0 0 1 7 .172 .200 .241 .441 7 0 0 0 0 0 1 .227 83 22
16 Ronny Rodriguez 5 4 15 14 2 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 5 .143 .133 .143 .276 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 .200 114 -23
17 Mike Gerber 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0        

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25 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

Hicks?

Martin would be a good fourth outfielder.  Is there a reason why he is not stealing bases this year though?

I think I am more interested to see what goodrum can do.

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54 minutes ago, Shelton said:

...Is there a contending g team out there that could use a CF like Martin?

I think the Phillies could use a CF'er... even on a platoon basis (Martin is decent against RH'ers...) and we wouldn't ask for much... and the Phillies probably at this point in their development wouldn't want to give up much... So a cheap option like Martin would work for them... I believe.

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Martin should not be getting AB’s.  Play Jones and Reyes, with Leonys filling in on occasion.

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Martin is hitting .290 with an .863 OPS against RH'ers...

I think you are overstating.

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4 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

Martin is hitting .290 with an .863 OPS against RH'ers...

I think you are overstating.

Not saying he isn’t deserving, just, what is the point in him blocking prospects in a rebuilding season?

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1 hour ago, Shelton said:

I think I am more interested to see what goodrum can do.

I think Hicks will hit better, but he's also two years older.  So, you could go either way I guess.  I doubt either one is going to be a regular on a good team.  

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3 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Not saying he isn’t deserving, just, what is the point in him blocking prospects in a rebuilding season?

Solution: Trade him... 

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4 hours ago, tiger337 said:

Hicks?

Martin would be a good fourth outfielder.  Is there a reason why he is not stealing bases this year though?

Dodgy hamstring and knee I think. He had to have fluid drained from the knee recently.

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If the Tigers had prospects who were comparable to Martin, they wouldn't have signed him. 

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38 minutes ago, kdog said:

If the Tigers had prospects who were comparable to Martin, they wouldn't have signed him. 

Not completely true.  They probably wanted to hedge their bets in case Jones wasn’t ready to play regularly.  I’m too lazy to confirm, but I think they also signed Martin before selecting Reyes in the Rule V.

Dont get me wrong, Martin is having a nice season and would be a valuable 4th OF on most teams.  I’d just rather see others get his AB’s at this point.

in full disclosure, I’m a card-carrying member of #tank2018

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10 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Not completely true.  They probably wanted to hedge their bets in case Jones wasn’t ready to play regularly.  I’m too lazy to confirm, but I think they also signed Martin before selecting Reyes in the Rule V.

Dont get me wrong, Martin is having a nice season and would be a valuable 4th OF on most teams.  I’d just rather see others get his AB’s at this point.

jin full disclosure, I’m a card-carrying member of #tank2018

Who should get at-bats? Jones won't ever be a starter on a good team. Martin isn't blocking anyone.

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Jones has proven emphatically that he is not a starter.  I'd like to see Reyes get some PA's in blowouts.

EDIT - let's be patient until the end of June.  If Stewart has a good June I think that he will be up on the 30th and playing every day.  That's the end of the line for Jones unless somebody wants Martin as a 4th OF at the deadline. 

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8 hours ago, Charles Liston said:

Jones has proven emphatically that he is not a starter.  I'd like to see Reyes get some PA's in blowouts.

EDIT - let's be patient until the end of June.  If Stewart has a good June I think that he will be up on the 30th and playing every day.  That's the end of the line for Jones unless somebody wants Martin as a 4th OF at the deadline. 

The one thing that really intrigued me about Stewart's start was his SO/BB ratio.  Career heading into 2018, it was 337 to 168, about 2 to 1.  He was 13 to 11 in April, way out of line with where he has been.  It fell more in line in May, 27 to 14.  His 2018 OBP was .404 in April but dropped to .344 in May.  Maybe its something, maybe its nothing, I don't know.  Obviously there is more than his offense to work on in Toledo before being bumped up to the bigs.

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20 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Hicks = Wockenfuss

and that’s a good thing.

A very good thing.  Who is Champ Summers?

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25 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

A very good thing.  Who is Champ Summers?

Sadly, there is only one Champ.  Brennan Boesch came closest.

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Just now, Tenacious D said:

Sadly, there is only one Champ.  Brennan Boesch came closest.

Well that wasn't very close. Boesch was a flame out, Champ was a bona-fide MLB journeyman. He did 4 full seasons in the minors and then managed to make an 11yr part time career in the MLB.

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9 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Well that wasn't very close. Boesch was a flame out, Champ was a bona-fide MLB journeyman. He did 4 full seasons in the minors and then managed to make an 11yr part time career in the MLB.

They don't make players like Summers anymore.  With the short benches, you are either a backup catcher, defensive specialist or a multi-position guy.  I liked when teams had spots on their bench for platoon players like Summers.  I remember one year he was complaining that he wanted to play full-time, so Sparky finally put him out there against against two of the best lefties - I think Flanagan and McGregor.  He went 0 for 8 with a bunch of strikeouts and that was the end of that.   

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