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the Tigers have now scored 3 or less in 19 of their 33 games, or at a 58% clip.  Last year, I believe teams played about a .200 winning percentage of winning their games when they scored 3 or less.

The Tigers last year did that in 43 % of their games, and went 5-64 in those games.  I believe that was the worst winning percentage in all of baseball. They actually won 5 times already this year with 3 or less, for a 5-14 record thus far, which is a 26 % winning percentage.

The AL as a whole coming into today this year is at a 42.8 % of scoring 3 or less in all games.

If the Tigers were near that average, they probably would have 2 or 3 more wins.  

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Tigers are 13th in the AL with runners left on base per game, and 14th with runners not advanced.  Situational hitting is lacking with this team.  And power, as they are dead last in home runs.

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The Tigers have an OPS of .724 overall,  .736 with runners on base and .709 RISP so they hit about the same in every situation.  So, that is not the problem.  Lack of power (last in the AL in homeruns) is a real problem.  

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The scary part is, there's no one in the lineup I could honestly expect to improve.

About what you'd expect: McCann, Machado, Iglesias, Cabrera, Castellanos, Victor, Jones

Probably better than you'd expect: Candelario

Due to fall back to earth: Martin, Hicks

I suppose Iglesias could hit better, but likewise, Cabrera could stay hurt, Victor could go back into old man mode, or Jones could collapse.

Just not a very talented team at the plate. Not having a LF or DH who can really hit makes it tough to compete in the AL

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Why is there a hitting thread but not a not hitting thread?  Amirite?

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On 5/6/2018 at 8:12 PM, Casimir said:

Why is there a hitting thread but not a not hitting thread?  Amirite?

Where is the "Now That Brad Is Gone, They Will Finally Start Playing The Game The Right Way" thread? 

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5 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

Where is the "Now That Brad Is Gone, They Will Finally Start Playing The Game The Right Way" thread? 

I thought that topic was something that couldn't be contained with just one thread.  Maybe it could be contained within the Detroit Tigers forum.  But not solely within one thread.

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The Tigers are the gang who cant get a hit when it matters and counts most.  They are 14th in the AL in terms of runners left on base.  This road trip has a lot of hits and base runners, but nowhere near as many runs as would have been expected/  Some interesting numbers from their last 14 games

52 runs in those 14 games, for an average of 3,71 runs per game.

25 for 134 with RISP, for an average of .186

117 runners left on base, for an average of 8.4 per game

244 runners not advanced during their at bats, for an average of 17.4 per game

an overall team BA of .235 with RISP (Victor has the 2 most plate appearances on the team, with an average of .184, others of note, Martin, .182, Jones and Machado both at .200)

With the bases loaded, the team is:  5 for 31, for a .161 average.  A lot of wasted chances there.

So, this team can get on base, generate chances, but they just cannot seem to cash in on them.  Hopefully it is just a rough patch, but the overall numbers are trending down, and the competition is only going to get harder, as they have a lot of games upcoming against some good teams.   

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34 minutes ago, kj2018 said:

The Tigers are the gang who cant get a hit when it matters and counts most. 

whenever you have a team where the bottom of the lineup are extra bad hitters, you will get a lot of xs men left on base. Castellanos, Cabrera, Jones, Candelario have all had decent OBP, but the rest of order really sucks, so a lot guys get stranded. If most of the time when the bases are loaded, it happens with a 200 hitter at bat, that 161 is not such an outlier.

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Pete Kozma now leads the team in OPS.  Discuss.

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Gotta give some credit here.  The past week has seen some of the worst, pre-game lineups, i can recall in a long long time.  Yet, the band of misfits have scored 4 or more in 7 straight.  They are still not really getting that big big hit (although Goodrum sure did tonight).  They are battling and getting chances, and they are cashing in enough to score a few runs.  

it is good to see.  

two ugly stats:  .161 ba and .495 OPS with 38 plate appearances with the bases loaded

Victor now at 52 PA with RISP, a .163 BA and .463 OPS.  He has the 2nd most opps on the team behind Nick, who has 58 and is hitting .314 with an OPS of .769.

It is time for Victor to gracefully exit

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8 hours ago, kj2018 said:

Gotta give some credit here.  The past week has seen some of the worst, pre-game lineups, i can recall in a long long time.  Yet, the band of misfits have scored 4 or more in 7 straight.  They are still not really getting that big big hit (although Goodrum sure did tonight).  They are battling and getting chances, and they are cashing in enough to score a few runs.  

it is good to see.  

two ugly stats:  .161 ba and .495 OPS with 38 plate appearances with the bases loaded

Victor now at 52 PA with RISP, a .163 BA and .463 OPS.  He has the 2nd most opps on the team behind Nick, who has 58 and is hitting .314 with an OPS of .769.

It is time for Victor to gracefully exit

Or to be gracefully exited.  Love Victor but tired of him.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

Relative to other teams, do the Tigers strand an inordinate number of runners?

I haven't looked at it.

The Tigers are 15th out of 15 in the AL, averaging 7.33 LOB per game.  Amazingly, there are 6 teams with worse numbers, all from the NL (last is 7,64 / game)

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1 hour ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

Relative to other teams, do the Tigers strand an inordinate number of runners?

I haven't looked at it.

I would guess that they strand more runners than other teams because they lack power.  

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Just now, tiger337 said:

I would guess that they strand more runners than other teams because they lack power.  

Correct, they do lack power, especially with RISP.  Their slugging with RISP is only .378 as a team, but overall they are at .420 as a team, so there is a drop when they get runners in scoring position.

And, there are a few guys who really drag the team down with RISP:

  G GS PA
AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
  Team Total 39   438 376 134 90 23 1 9 129 3 0 45 93 .239 .319 .378 .696 142 11 4 2 11 9 5
1 Nicholas Castellanos 27   58 51 14 16 0 0 1 18 0 0 5 13 .314 .397 .373 .769 19 1 2 0 0 2 0 .405 77 112
2 Victor Martinez 30   52 42 4 7 1 0 0 11 0 0 8 7 .167 .288 .190 .479 8 1 0 0 2 3 1 .189 51 34
3 Jeimer Candelario 27   41 33 16 7 2 0 1 9 0 0 8 11 .212 .366 .364 .729 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 .286 75 100
4 JaCoby Jones 25   39 37 11 7 3 0 0 6 2 0 1 12 .189 .205 .270 .475 10 1 0 0 1 0 0 .269 37 29
5 Dixon Machado 24   37 32 12 7 4 0 0 11 0 0 3 5 .219 .297 .344 .641 11 0 1 0 1 0 0 .250 122 75
6 Jose Iglesias 23   36 30 13 8 2 1 0 9 0 0 2 6 .267 .324 .400 .724 12 2 1 2 1 0 2 .320 122 97
7 James McCann 22   35 30 9 7 1 0 0 11 0 0 3 7 .233 .286 .267 .552 8 1 0 0 2 0 1 .280 57 52
8 Miguel Cabrera 17   34 27 10 9 4 0 1 19 0 0 6 3 .333 .441 .593 1.034 16 2 0 0 1 3 0 .333 123 180
9 Leonys Martin 20   32 29 17 5 1 0 1 9 0 0 3 11 .172 .250 .310 .560 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 .235 31 52
10 John Hicks 17   22 19 9 6 1 0 2 9 0 0 2 5 .316 .364 .684 1.048 13 2 0 0 1 0 0 .308 141 179
11 Niko Goodrum 12   21 20 8 7 3 0 3 9 0 0 1 4 .350 .381 .950 1.331 19 1 0 0 0 0 1 .308 202 250
12 Mikie Mahtook 10   16 11 2 2 1 0 0 4 1 0 3 4 .182 .313 .273 .585 3 0 0 0 2 1 0 .222 149 62
13 Victor Reyes 7   7 7 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -100 -100
14 Pete Kozma 2   4 4 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -100 -100
15 Grayson Greiner 2   3 3   2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 .667 .667 .667 1.333 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 333 266
16 Warwick Saupold 1   1 1   0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0     -100

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here are the current numbers with 2 outs and RISP, they are even worse as the team is hitting under .200 in these situations

 

Player: 2 outs, RISP

Player: 2 outs, RISP
Rk Name G GS PA
AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
  Team Total 39   198 172 46 34 11 0 4 43 0 0 25 48 .198 .303 .331 .634 57 0 1 0 0 5 2 .250 73  
1 Victor Martinez 19   29 22 3 3 0 0 0 4 0 0 7 3 .136 .345 .136 .481 3 0 0 0 0 3 0 .158 55 40
2 Nicholas Castellanos 15   25 23 3 6 0 0 1 7 0 0 2 8 .261 .320 .391 .711 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 .357 61 99
3 Leonys Martin 15   19 16 8 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 3 6 .125 .263 .125 .388 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 -1 12
4 Dixon Machado 14   18 18 3 4 2 0 0 5 0 0 0 4 .222 .222 .333 .556 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 .286 91 54
5 JaCoby Jones 14   18 17 3 4 2 0 0 3 0 0 1 6 .235 .278 .353 .631 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 .364 82 76
6 Jose Iglesias 14   16 13 4 3 1 0 0 3 0 0 2 2 .231 .375 .308 .683 4 0 1 0 0 0 1 .273 114 94
7 James McCann 14   15 14 3 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 5 .071 .133 .071 .205 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .111 -41 -41
8 Jeimer Candelario 12   14 11 5 1 1 0 0 2 0 0 3 3 .091 .286 .182 .468 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .125 16 34
9 Niko Goodrum 8   12 12 2 3 2 0 1 4 0 0 0 3 .250 .250 .667 .917 8 0 0 0 0 0 1 .250 107 150
10 John Hicks 9   10 9 2 2 1 0 1 3 0 0 1 3 .222 .300 .667 .967 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 118 165
11 Miguel Cabrera 9   10 7 4 3 1 0 1 8 0 0 3 2 .429 .600 1.000 1.600 7 0 0 0 0 1 0 .500 241 343
12 Mikie Mahtook 5   6 4   1 1 0 0 1 0 0 2 2 .250 .500 .500 1.000 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 .500 323 182
13 Victor Reyes 3   3 3 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -100 -100
14 Pete Kozma 1   2 2   0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 -100 -100
15 Grayson Greiner 1   1 1   1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 549 464

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After a good stretch, the Tigers are back to their 3 or less ways, with 4 of the last 5 with 3 or less.  Now at 23 out of 46, 50 %, at 3 or less.

On the road, it is much worse, 24 games with 90 runs, or an average of 3.67 per game (compared to 22 games with 109 runs, or essentially 5 per game).  

This team, like a lot of recent teams, does not hit well on the road.  

 

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Heads need to roll to show the team the front office is serious.

DFA Kozma and VMart.

 

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