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2 minutes ago, Nastradamus said:

No, I just responded to two separate silly assertions appropriately. She has more experience than them, and experience isn't going to be why she gets the job. Any more questions?

Yes, why would she get the job? What has she accomplished? The only things I have heard is her experience as an assistant head coach for the Spurs. Don't the Spurs have other assistant coaches? What separates her from the other Spurs coaches? or Golden State coaches? Or Boston coaches?

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1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

Yes, why would she get the job? What has she accomplished? The only things I have heard is her experience as an assistant head coach for the Spurs. Don't the Spurs have other assistant coaches? What separates her from the other Spurs coaches? or Golden State coaches? Or Boston coaches?

I have no idea. That's what the interview is for, along with references and the like. 

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7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Yes, why would she get the job? What has she accomplished? The only things I have heard is her experience as an assistant head coach for the Spurs. Don't the Spurs have other assistant coaches? What separates her from the other Spurs coaches? or Golden State coaches? Or Boston coaches?

First of all, we don't know that she will get a head coaching job. Second, how would a regular fan know what separates her from the other assistant coaches? That is what front offices will look into during the interview process. You sound mad that people are even giving her an interview. But 4 years as an assistant coach to one of the greatest coaches of all time + praise from every player you have worked with would warrant an interview even if she was a man. 

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3 minutes ago, 313DetroitCity said:

First of all, we don't know that she will get a head coaching job. Second, how would a regular fan know what separates her from the other assistant coaches? That is what front offices will look into during the interview process. You sound mad that people are even giving her an interview. But 4 years as an assistant coach to one of the greatest coaches of all time + praise from every player you have worked with would warrant an interview even if she was a man. 

I wasn't the one who brought up what she has done to earn an NBA head coaching job besides being a woman. I gather because she isn't Jason Kidd or Derrick Fisher makes her qualified. I'm guessing one should interview the entire Spurs staff. 

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38 minutes ago, 313DetroitCity said:
Hammon is one of the greatest women's basketball players of all time. Her resume in college, the WNBA and Olympics is remarkable. You can downplay that and say it doesn't count, but she clearly has an incredible basketball mind. Popovich wouldn't have her coaching his players if she wasn't up to par.
 
Also, being a great player doesn't necessarily translate to being a good coach (look at the long list of failed head coaches who were players). Kidd & Fisher were given shots to prove themselves as being capable. Hammon has more NBA coaching experience than either of them did. 

She might have more coaching experience but Kidd and Fisher have been around the NBA landscape their entire adult lives, they are very experienced dealing with NBA players and them being guards, they were sort of the extension of their coach on the floor especially in Kidd's case. There's a big difference between being WNBA experienced and NBA experienced so with all due respect to the women's game, her WNBA experience doesn't really mean much in this case.

Also, and I know some people don't want to hear this, it's going to be a lot tougher for her as a woman to command the respect of a bunch of men. This is still a society where there are men who feel uncomfortable with women bosses especially in the sports world where it's unprecedented to have a woman coaching men and while that's unfair, that's just the reality of the situation.  I don't doubt that she's a great basketball mind but there are hurdles she has to climb that men simply don't have to.

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2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I wasn't the one who brought up what she has done to earn an NBA head coaching job besides being a woman. I gather because she isn't Jason Kidd or Derrick Fisher makes her qualified. I'm guessing one should interview the entire Spurs staff. 

If a Spurs assistant coach expressed interest in being a head coach and had praise from all the players he worked with, yeah...he would probably get an interview. An interview isn't exactly a serious commitment for a front office. It is certainly worth the effort if you can get a franchise altering coach. 

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3 minutes ago, NYLion said:

She might have more coaching experience but Kidd and Fisher have been around the NBA landscape their entire adult lives, they are very experienced dealing with NBA players and them being guards, they were sort of the extension of their coach on the floor especially in Kidd's case. There's a big difference between being WNBA experienced and NBA experienced so with all due respect to the women's game, her WNBA experience doesn't really mean much in this case.

Also, and I know some people don't want to hear this, it's going to be a lot tougher for her as a woman to command the respect of a bunch of men. This is still a society where there are men who feel uncomfortable with women bosses especially in the sports world where it's unprecedented to have a woman coaching men and while that's unfair, that's just the reality of the situation.  I don't doubt that she's a great basketball mind but there are hurdles she has to climb that men simply don't have to.

Coaching experience > playing experience when it comes to being a coach. 

Check out Pau Gasol's article in the Players Tribune. Men are supervised by women in every industry. NBA players aren't so barbaric that they can't take direction from a woman. And given the fact that she is already coaching men, there is a track record. 

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3 minutes ago, NYLion said:

WNBA experience doesn't really mean much in this case.

 

Just ask Bill Laimbeer.

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4 minutes ago, NYLion said:

She might have more coaching experience but Kidd and Fisher have been around the NBA landscape their entire adult lives, they are very experienced dealing with NBA players and them being guards, they were sort of the extension of their coach on the floor especially in Kidd's case. There's a big difference between being WNBA experienced and NBA experienced so with all due respect to the women's game, her WNBA experience doesn't really mean much in this case.

Also, and I know some people don't want to hear this, it's going to be a lot tougher for her as a woman to command the respect of a bunch of men. This is still a society where there are men who feel uncomfortable with women bosses especially in the sports world where it's unprecedented to have a woman coaching men and while that's unfair, that's just the reality of the situation.  I don't doubt that she's a great basketball mind but there are hurdles she has to climb that men simply don't have to.

I didn't mention it but there's that too. Especially men in their early 20's with a lot of money. There's a lot of entitlement in the NBA and players run the show probably more so than other leagues. How many times have we heard of NBA players refusing to go into a game or flat out defying a coach? I'm not sure if a woman can command that kind of respect. If I were to hire a woman in the NBA, it would've been Pat Summit had she not passed away. 

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9 minutes ago, 313DetroitCity said:

Coaching experience > playing experience when it comes to being a coach. 

Check out Pau Gasol's article in the Players Tribune. Men are supervised by women in every industry. NBA players aren't so barbaric that they can't take direction from a woman. And given the fact that she is already coaching men, there is a track record. 

She's an assistant coach on alpha dog Popovich's staff, big difference between that and being a head coach. You can't just bury your head in the sand to the fact that her being a woman in a men's game is absolutely an inhibiting factor. Mens' sports is not every industry, it's a very testosterone charged, male dominated environment.

I can't read every players' thoughts or any for that matter but I'd imagine that there is a big group out there that don't feel comfortable taking direction from a woman.

I hope she gets an opportunity and I'm sure she would do a good job but this is not an equal opportunity profession for women. That's all I'm saying.

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Derrick Fisher was also hired by the Knicks who haven't proven to be competent in some time. Phil Jackson also made the hire who they had a close relationship with. Kidd was hired by the Nets. Another team who has proven they do not know what they are doing. Hammon is lucky she didn't end up on either of those teams. My concern is she will end up in a bad situation and that will set back women becoming head coaches. How much longer does Poppovich have? Stay in San Antonio until Poppovich retires and take over the Spurs. 

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9 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Just ask Bill Laimbeer.

When did Laimbeer gets hired as an NBA head coach?

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3 minutes ago, NYLion said:

When did Laimbeer gets hired as an NBA head coach?

That was his point.

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10 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

That was his point.

My point was that Hammon's WNBA experience doesn't mean much on an NBA head coaching resume so neither did Laimbeer's.

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1 minute ago, NYLion said:

My point was that Hammon's WNBA experience doesn't mean much on an NBA head coaching resume so neither did Laimbeer's.

He was agreeing with you.

 

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6 minutes ago, NYLion said:

My point was that Hammon's WNBA experience doesn't mean much on an NBA head coaching resume so neither did Laimbeer's.

Hammon never coached in the WNBA. She coaches in the NBA. Laimbeer had a terrible reputation with players as an assistant coach in the NBA (well documented) and Hammon has a great reputation with players as an assistant coach in the NBA (well documented). 

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4 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

He was agreeing with you.

 

Stupid NYLion STUPID.  I think it's time for my morning coffee.

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1 minute ago, 313DetroitCity said:

Hammon never coached in the WNBA. She coaches in the NBA. Laimbeer had a terrible reputation with players as an assistant coach (well documented) and Hammon has a great reputation with players as an assistant coach (well documented). 

You cited her WNBA and Olympic resume as selling points for NBA head coaching employment. That's why I brought up her WNBA experience as meaningless in this case.

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1 minute ago, NYLion said:

You cited her WNBA and Olympic resume as selling points for NBA head coaching employment. That's why I brought up her WNBA experience as meaningless in this case.

I responded to someone who brought up playing experience. Her playing experience isn't my primary selling point. Her actual coaching experience in the NBA is. 

Even if she didn't play a day in the WNBA, if she is good enough to coach next to Pop and get his praise, I would give her a shot at an interview. 

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1 minute ago, 313DetroitCity said:

I responded to someone who brought up playing experience. Her playing experience isn't my primary selling point. Her actual coaching experience in the NBA is. 

Even if she didn't play a day in the WNBA, if she is good enough to coach next to Pop and get his praise, I would give her a shot at an interview. 

Well, behind Pop.  Since she isn't allowed to sit on the bench.

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Just now, Deleterious said:

Well, behind Pop.  Since she isn't allowed to sit on the bench.

Assistant coaches jobs are really done in practices and before/after games. Where she sits doesn't really matter to me. 

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