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Who Did Miguel Pass Today?

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That's the killer, it's tough to say how good he (or so many others) would have been without them.  I think the guys that indulged would have been HOF quality on their skill set for the most part.  But everyone saw a potential HOF-er in ARod when he was a kid.

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The funny thing is that many people think that taking steroids suddenly made a guy a great hitter.  Steroids aren't going to make you hit like a major league player.  They will help you get stronger and recover faster, but they aren't suddenly going to make a guy have the ability to hit a major league slider or fastball.  Those guys still had the skill set to hit major league pitching, which most people in the world do not have.

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If anything enhanced Bonds it was all the body armor he wore that let him crowd the plate and essentially cut off the inner 3rd of the strike zone.  

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2 hours ago, gmoney said:

The funny thing is that many people think that taking steroids suddenly made a guy a great hitter.  Steroids aren't going to make you hit like a major league player.  They will help you get stronger and recover faster, but they aren't suddenly going to make a guy have the ability to hit a major league slider or fastball.  Those guys still had the skill set to hit major league pitching, which most people in the world do not have.

That's all true.  But if there wasn't a significant advantage to using them (and amphetamines), many of the greatest players of several generations wouldn't have used them, especially when they were career-damaging penalties associated with their use.  As someone who clearly reveres the numbers of the game, it's tough to see them tortured by their use.

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GAME 112

At Bats - 8,825 (85) - Passed Tommy Corcoran at 8,824.

Plate Appearances - 10,096 (80) - Passed David Ortiz at 10,091.

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Don't want to turn this into a steroid argument but if anything steroids would benefit a pitcher more than a hitter.  Faster recovery times, increased endurance(holding velo longer) and increased strength(possible velo gains) outweighs the benefits a hitter would get.  Sure they would get stronger which would increase bat speed but I think the extra velo a pitcher could get is more important than that.   

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I would think that the recovery time between starts would be more complete, especially for older pitchers.

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GAME 113

Plate Appearances - 10,100 (T78) - Passed <Frankie Frisch> at 10,099.

Hits - 2,782 (52) - Passed <Ken Griffey, JUNIOR> at 2,781.

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22 minutes ago, ktpinnacle said:

GAME 113

Plate Appearances - 10,100 (T78) - Passed <Frankie Frisch> at 10,099.

Hits - 2,782 (52) - Passed <Ken Griffey> at 2,781.

2 pretty solid names in baseball history.

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33 minutes ago, ktpinnacle said:

GAME 113

Plate Appearances - 10,100 (T78) - Passed <Frankie Frisch> at 10,099.

Hits - 2,782 (52) - Passed <Ken Griffey> at 2,781.

He passed Ken Griffey a few years ago.....

:wink:

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16 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

OPS back over 950 in the last dozen games. Who'da thunk?

When Miggy is productive, things are just a bit better in the world.  Pretty good for a guy who doesn't use his lower half.

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14 minutes ago, LooseGoose said:

2 pretty solid names in baseball history.

Yet the runs and singles lists still have some odd names to come - hopefully.

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1 minute ago, ktpinnacle said:

When Miggy is productive, things are just a bit better in the world.  Pretty good for a guy who doesn't use his lower half.

he's got a new thing. He is cocking his hips without picking up his front foot. Well see how it plays out for him and the knee.

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6 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

He passed Ken Griffey a few years ago.....

:wink:

AAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH . . . . .!

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2 minutes ago, ktpinnacle said:

AAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH . . . . .!

Us old guys have to stick up for other old guys so they don't get forgotten about...:wink:

 

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1 minute ago, Gehringer_2 said:

he's got a new thing. He is cocking his hips without picking up his front foot. Well see how it plays out for him and the knee.

The line out in his last AB was hit really well.  Maybe he's discovered a swing repair for his lack of knees.

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Just now, Gehringer_2 said:

Us old guys don't folks like seeing other old guys forgotten about...:wink:

 

I should have known better - for the same reason.

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GAME 116

Games Played - 2,369 (97) - Passed Al Oliver at 2,368.

At Bats - 8,839 (84) - Passed Steve Garvey at 8,835.

Doubles - 573 (26) - Passed <IVAN RODRIGUEZ> at 572.

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GAME 118

Home Runs - 474 (33) - Passed Carlos Delgado at 473.

Runs Scored - 1,412 (T89) - Passed David Ortiz at 1,419.

 

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