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On 2/14/2018 at 11:24 PM, Yoda said:

Finally watched Three Billboards. That is a powerful movie. 

I really liked Three Billboards. The only part I was iffy about was how quickly and completely one character with a well-established persona changed at the end. Otherwise, one of the best of the year.

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Has anyone seen Black Panther yet? I am not a superhero genre fan, let alone a Marvel fan, by any stretch, but I am hearing how fully and completely they created the world in which it exists, and I'm intrigued by that aspect.

I also notice how, on Rotten Tomatoes, critics give it a 96% (top critics 100%) while viewers give it only 77%. Under normal circumstances, this tells me that critics appreciate something in the movie that viewers didn't appreciate, and/or viewers' expectations weren't met by the movie. Can anyone maybe weigh in on this?

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59 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Has anyone seen Black Panther yet? I am not a superhero genre fan, let alone a Marvel fan, by any stretch, but I am hearing how fully and completely they created the world in which it exists, and I'm intrigued by that aspect.

I also notice how, on Rotten Tomatoes, critics give it a 96% (top critics 100%) while viewers give it only 77%. Under normal circumstances, this tells me that critics appreciate something in the movie that viewers didn't appreciate, and/or viewers' expectations weren't met by the movie. Can anyone maybe weigh in on this?

I have not seen it yet, but I plan to. 

I wouldn’t put a lot of stock into the audience score on rotten tomatoes, especially for a high profile movie like this. There are a subset of people that are against this movie for “reasons” which I bet you could guess. There is definitely an effort out there by a vocal minority to hurt the film. One example is people posting fake news about people getting beat up at the theater. Then there is the whole “wakanda isn’t real” thing.

It’s not exactly working, so it is a bit amusing. 

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I thought Black Panther was a really fun movie, I enjoy the lore behind him in relation to other superheroes so the world and myth building was cool.  It kept me engaged the whole time so it felt like it went by really quickly.  I'm also a big Michael B. Jordan fan so take this for what you will, but I thought overall the acting was really good too.  I would definitely recommend seeing it in theaters.

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2 hours ago, chasfh said:

Has anyone seen Black Panther yet? I am not a superhero genre fan, let alone a Marvel fan, by any stretch, but I am hearing how fully and completely they created the world in which it exists, and I'm intrigued by that aspect.

I also notice how, on Rotten Tomatoes, critics give it a 96% (top critics 100%) while viewers give it only 77%. Under normal circumstances, this tells me that critics appreciate something in the movie that viewers didn't appreciate, and/or viewers' expectations weren't met by the movie. Can anyone maybe weigh in on this?

One of the first people who I heard say that they didn't like The Last Jedi panned The Black Panther pretty hard. I also thought The Last Jedi was hot garbage so I'm guessing that I'll not like this either. I'm not a huge fan of superhero movies anyway so I'll wait for the rental.

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1 hour ago, Shelton said:

I have not seen it yet, but I plan to. 

I wouldn’t put a lot of stock into the audience score on rotten tomatoes, especially for a high profile movie like this. There are a subset of people that are against this movie for “reasons” which I bet you could guess. There is definitely an effort out there by a vocal minority to hurt the film. One example is people posting fake news about people getting beat up at the theater. Then there is the whole “wakanda isn’t real” thing.

It’s not exactly working, so it is a bit amusing. 

Yeah, I know about the fake news people getting beat up thing. I wondered how much that and generally racist activism had to do with the lower audience score. That said, there are valid reasons the audience score might be lower than the critics score even beyond that, as I've seen this with other movies as well, so I was just checking in on that aspect of it.

I'm leaning toward seeing it even though it is a superhero joint, which isn't my bag.

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11 minutes ago, Biff Mayhem said:

One of the first people who I heard say that they didn't like The Last Jedi panned The Black Panther pretty hard. I also thought The Last Jedi was hot garbage so I'm guessing that I'll not like this either. I'm not a huge fan of superhero movies anyway so I'll wait for the rental.

I disliked The Last Jedi but enjoyed Black Panther fwiw

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Superhero movie fatigue will keep me from watching Black Panther even if it's the best movie ever made.

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1 hour ago, drownwithyou said:

I thought Black Panther was a really fun movie, I enjoy the lore behind him in relation to other superheroes so the world and myth building was cool.  It kept me engaged the whole time so it felt like it went by really quickly.  I'm also a big Michael B. Jordan fan so take this for what you will, but I thought overall the acting was really good too.  I would definitely recommend seeing it in theaters.

So, I just got the bright idea of skimming the "rotten" reviews on that site, and it seems the most common complaints are (1) too much yak-yak-yak and not even beating up bad guys; (2) character development is second-rate compared to other Marvel movies; and (3) drags because it's too darn long.

What's your take on these critiques?

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I have liked a lot of the marvel movies. In particular, the captain America ones and the new spider-man. I also really liked ant man. 

I haven’t seen all of them. 

Black panther is one that I plan to see soon. The only ones I saw in the theater were civil war, guardians of the galaxy, spider-man, and avengers. 

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As a matter of full disclosure:

The Avengers: hated it

Iron Man: hated it...didn't bother with any sequels

Guardians of the Galaxy (both): loved them

First Thor: hated it.

Latest Thor: loved it because it used a lot of humor. Only watched it because people talked about how funny it is.

 

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2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

So, I just got the bright idea of skimming the "rotten" reviews on that site, and it seems the most common complaints are (1) too much yak-yak-yak and not even beating up bad guys; (2) character development is second-rate compared to other Marvel movies; and (3) drags because it's too darn long.

What's your take on these critiques?

I would disagree with 3 completely, I felt like it ended quickly because I was engaged throughout.

I'm not a big Marvel movie guy truthfully.  I probably couldn't even tell you the plot of the last couple Avengers movies even though I saw them.  So maybe I'm not the right person to compare the first two questions.  But, I thought there was a good balance between action and talking, and I even thought that there was a majority of action throughout.  There isn't a ton of character development, I will agree with that.  But there is enough and the characters are interesting enough as is to me that I still like just about all the main characters.  I will say I wasn't a huge fan of Martin Freeman's character, but didn't bug me a too much.  They could have developed the villain a tiny bit more too.  It wasn't a perfect movie by any stretch, but it was fun and the visuals (especially Wakanda) were cool on the big screen.

 

I did see a joke I enjoy: Forrest Whitaker's African accent was lazier than his eye!  Any time he's done accents in movies they always sound hilarious to me.

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27 minutes ago, Biff Mayhem said:

As a matter of full disclosure:

The Avengers: hated it

Iron Man: hated it...didn't bother with any sequels

Guardians of the Galaxy (both): loved them

First Thor: hated it.

Latest Thor: loved it because it used a lot of humor. Only watched it because people talked about how funny it is.

 

This is basically my Marvel fandom, although I didn't hate the noted hated movies I just didn't care about them.

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1 hour ago, drownwithyou said:

This is basically my Marvel fandom, although I didn't hate the noted hated movies I just didn't care about them.

As another matter of full disclosure, I have really enjoyed all the Marvel Universe shows on Netflix with the exception of Iron Fist (but that is mostly due to the really poor acting).

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We apparently have the same tastes in Marvel haha.  I've enjoyed all the Marvel shows I've seen sans Iron Fist.  I've started Runaways on Hulu and it's enjoyable two episodes in (although a bit more juvenile). 

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1 hour ago, drownwithyou said:

I would disagree with 3 completely, I felt like it ended quickly because I was engaged throughout.

I'm not a big Marvel movie guy truthfully.  I probably couldn't even tell you the plot of the last couple Avengers movies even though I saw them.  So maybe I'm not the right person to compare the first two questions.  But, I thought there was a good balance between action and talking, and I even thought that there was a majority of action throughout.  There isn't a ton of character development, I will agree with that.  But there is enough and the characters are interesting enough as is to me that I still like just about all the main characters.  I will say I wasn't a huge fan of Martin Freeman's character, but didn't bug me a too much.  They could have developed the villain a tiny bit more too.  It wasn't a perfect movie by any stretch, but it was fun and the visuals (especially Wakanda) were cool on the big screen.

 

I did see a joke I enjoy: Forrest Whitaker's African accent was lazier than his eye!  Any time he's done accents in movies they always sound hilarious to me.

OK, I'm in, maybe even tomorrow. Thanks!

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1 minute ago, chasfh said:

OK, I'm in, maybe even tomorrow. Thanks!

Feel free to tell me I'm an idiot if you hate it!  I'm pretty curious as to what you think.

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14 minutes ago, drownwithyou said:

Feel free to tell me I'm an idiot if you hate it!  I'm pretty curious as to what you think.

OK, but I would never tell you you're an idiot. The worst I would tell you is that your taste in movies is idiotic.

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On 2/21/2018 at 10:46 AM, Biff Mayhem said:

One of the first people who I heard say that they didn't like The Last Jedi panned The Black Panther pretty hard. I also thought The Last Jedi was hot garbage so I'm guessing that I'll not like this either. I'm not a huge fan of superhero movies anyway so I'll wait for the rental.

No. Not even comparable. Go see Black Panther. Amazing movie. 

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On 2/21/2018 at 11:28 AM, Biff Mayhem said:

As a matter of full disclosure:

The Avengers: hated it

Iron Man: hated it...didn't bother with any sequels

Guardians of the Galaxy (both): loved them

First Thor: hated it.

Latest Thor: loved it because it used a lot of humor. Only watched it because people talked about how funny it is.

 

Disregard. Apparently you just have terrible taste. :)

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On 2/21/2018 at 3:46 PM, drownwithyou said:

Feel free to tell me I'm an idiot if you hate it!  I'm pretty curious as to what you think.

Saw "Black Panther" yesterday.

Speaking as a guy who cheerfully professes his dislike for superhero movies, this is probably the most interesting one, to my taste, that I've seen. The world building of Wakanda fascinated me, particularly the idea of being a country on Earth in the present day hidden in plain sight from the historically colonizing world. The CGI of the capital city, especially, as the air ship buzzes through the mountains to get to it ("This never gets old") is a viscerally visual delight. I would have liked to see them do more street scenes than the one-street part they did a couple times, but it can't be easy or fast or cheap to do multiple-neighborhood on-the-ground scenes strictly in CGI.

The characters and the story seem to me, a non-connoisseur, to be what I would guess is a kind of boilerplate type for the genre, although I could be argued out of that. There was nothing about the structure or the execution of the story itself that made me say, wow, I've never seen anything like that before. I think the value of the movie lies in the sumptuous visuals and the performances of the actors.

I think my favorite character was the sly wiseacre sister of the king/Black Panther, as the head of science and technology for the country. She was the one that led me to pay extra attention whenever she came onto the screen. 

There were a few decent out loud laughs, nothing that doubled me over, of course, but that's not the point of the movie. I would guess that snarky joking is very common in the genre, and this movie delivered well on it.

They set up a sequel pretty well in the last scene set in Oakland, too, and I wonder whether the kid who encountered the king would show up in the next one.

And, not for nothing, Lupita Nyong'o looks as good in this as she has in anything else. I was having trouble following her dialogue, I was gazing so intently at her, especially her remarkably flawless skin.

Your taste in movies in not idiotic.

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When it comes to Marvel movies it is all about Iron Man IMO.  I LOVED the first movie and all the subsequent ones.  I trudged through Avengers because of Iron Man and the Hulk.  I was never a fan of Thor, Captain America, or any of the other characters.

I like the Hulk, but am getting burned out on all the remakes, reboots and follow up movies all telling the same story over and over.

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