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Game 56: Pelicans @ Pistons

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3 hours ago, Betrayer said:

On offense this team has some of the worst self-awareness I've ever seen. Nobody knows what they do well and clearly SVG isn't guiding them at all. He loves to focus on not turning the ball over but somehow he doesn't realize that all of these wasted possessions are no better than turnovers. If you take bad shots and the other team gets to run out in transition as a result, you're not doing your defense any favors.

  • Galloway, a 36% career 3pt shooter, thinks he's Ray Allen and chucks up every off-balance three he can find. Feet not set? Shoot it. Fading away? Shoot it. Makes no sense.
  • Drummond thinks he's a post player, running into the paint to get his touches, and for some reason his teammates keep feeding him the ball down there. The other half the time he's trying to go between the legs and take his guy off the dribble with some finesse move like he's Kyrie. SVG doesn't put a stop it to any of this.
  • Stanley Johnson thinks he's Kobe, always looking to go 1 on 1 or take a three.
  • Blake thinks he's a 3pt specialist now. Some of that is on him, but most of it is on SVG for playing him with a bunch of guys packed into the paint.

On top of that, his lineups/rotations are horrendous. You can't start Ish, Stanley, Drummond, and Blake together. Everyone is packed into the paint, so you wind up with Blake and Stanely shooting threes because there's no space anywhere else on the court. How can he not see this?

There's a simple answer:

  • Move Ish back to the bench unit. He'll be there soon when Reggie comes back anyway, so let him get re-acclimated to that role and then you've got him surrounded by Luke, Ennes, and Tolliver who can all shoot. 
  • Move Nelson into the starting lineup until Reggie comes back. Yes, he's old, but he's a career 37% 3pt shooter with a ton of experience running the point. At least then you'd have Bullock and Nelson helping to spread the court.
  • Stagger Dre and Blake as much as possible. They get in each other's way, Blake is forced out on the perimeter and Dre keeps trying to post up when Blake's in there.
  • Stop playing Galloway - He's a situational guy that maybe gets some run here and there, but Luke is your backup SG.
  • Stop playing Moreland - Newsflash, he's terrible and you already have two All-Star Centers. Drummond, Griffin, and Tolliver is your 3 man rotation at the 4/5. Maybe Stanley at the 4 if you're playing a small lineup. That's it. 

On the defensive side of the ball, the fact is that this team simply doesn't have a high bball IQ (as noted above) and neither do they have the length/athleticism of a team like Philly or Milwaukee. They also don't have a defensive presence in the paint outside of a defensive rebounder. They're going to struggle unless SVG can teach them principles to make them a serviceable team and we all know that's not happening.

Also, I'd like to caution everyone on the Reggie Jackson talk. He wasn't in the best shape coming into the season and now he's had another 6-8 weeks of being off his feet. He's going to be many weeks getting into shape at best, headed for another quick injury at worst.

Great post for sure.  SVG can't continue to do the same things and get different results, but I have a feeling that won't wreck his routine.

Why not find a way to have two of Ennis, Bullock or Kennard in the game for a majority of the game?  He needs to use these guys to spread the floor for his two AS-level bigs and cut Blake's 3pt attempts in half.  Ennis and Bullock actually D-up, so a real bonus there.  Maybe save Kennard for non-Blake minutes because he can be a secondary facilitator.

Also, the Pistons should push the ball more.  Ish and Stanley are at their best in transition, and really, those two could give the second unit a real identity.  Ennis can get out and run, too.  Play some passing lanes and gamble a little bit.  It's not like the defense can get worse.

Reggie probably will not be in the best shape when he returns, but he should be able to give us 20 minutes the first month he's back.  Playing your way into shape is hard, and I'm not expecting the best version of him, but it is probably safe to say he'll be better than Jameer and whatever version of Ish we've seen the past several games.  If he doesn't get re-injured.

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18 hours ago, mickeyb105 said:

But Reggie has been a difference maker for us in the past. Remember that year Detroit made the playoffs? Reggie was the catalyst. Put a league-average starting pg next to Blake and that's going to make defenses play more honest.   

Ish is the worst starting PG the Pistons have rolled out over the course of a big chunk of a season since...??? 

I am assuming you are talking about 2015/16.  Reggie got off to a really good start but was not that good the second half of the season.  I would hardly call him a difference maker that year.  People are just on a Reggie kick again because Ish is the starter.  It's the backup quarterback syndrome.  Give Reggie half a season of games and people will be clamoring for Ish again.  I agree Reggie is better than Ish but it is not by a wide margin.  

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3 minutes ago, Hart said:

I am assuming you are talking about 2015/16.  Reggie got off to a really good start but was not that good the second half of the season.  I would hardly call him a difference maker that year.  People are just on a Reggie kick again because Ish is the starter.  It's the backup quarterback syndrome.  Give Reggie half a season of games and people will be clamoring for Ish again.  I agree Reggie is better than Ish but it is not by a wide margin.  

Backup QB syndrome works for backups.  Reggie has always been the starter here.  18.8/6.2 that year, so let's not act like he was just some dude off the street.

Without Reggie, do the Pistons make it to the playoffs in '16? Nope.

He was terrible last year because he tried to play through injuries, and he was not that good this year perhaps for the same reason.

I'm not sure which of us were clamoring for Ish to start, but there's not question right now that he's absolutely terrible as the starting PG.  He's so bad, in fact, that the better posters here are saying Jameer will likely start sooner than later while Reggie is out or on the mend.  The same Jameer who has been over-the-hill for four seasons is going to be replacing Ish because he's been that bad.

But yeah, if Reggie comes back and he can't move the same or stay on the court of course it won't help the team.

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Reggie will help for sure.  But he hasn't even been cleared to start running yet.  That is supposed to happen over the all star break.  Even then he wont be cleared for lateral movement.  

I still say he doesn't come back this year.  But even best case scenario, is a month away seems reasonable still?  For a guy not yet running, that seems pretty optimistic to me.

 

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26 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Reggie will help for sure.  But he hasn't even been cleared to start running yet.  That is supposed to happen over the all star break.  Even then he wont be cleared for lateral movement.  

I still say he doesn't come back this year.  But even best case scenario, is a month away seems reasonable still?  For a guy not yet running, that seems pretty optimistic to me.

 

I would have shut him down for the year if I'm Gores, right after I fired SVG.

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1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

BTW, I read a story saying Washington might sign Ty Lawson.  

they are looking to sign washed up ty lawson instead of washed up derrick rose.

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