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I've been bored the last few days so I've looked into it. A few names to keep your eyes on for the Tigers.
 
1. Nick Burdi - Minn - This is the guy I want most. Comming off TJ surgery and can throw 100 MPH, still expected to be a starter. Knowing the Tigers, they'll blow it and not take him. Just read that they can keep him on DL until the end of July and use him in August and September and then only need to have him for April to complete the Rule 5 requirements. He had TJ last spring I think the article said so he'd have more than enough time to recover.
 
2. Max Pentecost  - Tor - My 2nd pick. Catcher who hits and throws out runners. Has shoulder issues but the bat is still good enough that it could play right now as a backup. Should be better than McCann long term if he stays healthy. High Risk, High Reward. 
 
3. Kohl Stewart - Min - Very good ground ball pitcher reminiscent of Rick Porcello. Career 1.72  GO/AO so far. With Kinsler, and Iglesias, having a GB pitcher wouldn't hurt too bad. Even if Kinsler gets traded, the Tigers still have Machado ready to step in. Wouldn't mind this pick. Don't know why he wasn't protected.
 
4. Mark Appel - PHI - Another high risk high reward. Good stuff (not as great as everyone thought it might be, [yet]), just has no idea where it's going. Think Rick Vaughn from the Major League Series mixed with Kyle Sleeth and injuries. Tigers drafted him once, and it really wouldn't surprise me if they drafted him again. I think Avila needs a PR win since he's doing a full rebuild and signing a former #1 overall draft pick would definitely create some buzz around Tigers fan's that don't know too much about prospects. He also cleared waivers when he was designated for assignment so this also would make this pick even more baffling if the Tigers went this route.
 
Those are my top 4 picks but I'm sure the Tigers will take someone else. Out of all of these, Appel I think would be the biggest PR boost. IMO he's a premodanna and has been since the draft. That's what scares me most that I think Avila is facing a little pressure and may just do a public opinion move here instead of the best interest of the club. I also wouldn't mind them trading the 1st pick of the Rule 5 and their remaining international money for a bonafide prospect. Although now I'm just pipe dreaming aloud.....
 
 
Anyone like anyone else or think the Tigers should be looking at someone else in particular?

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That Braves 2b demeritte has been mentioned before. And there was some kid that stole 70 bases last year whose name I forget. 

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Also how has Appel been a premadonna? 

He's done everything an organization has asked. The Astros so messed him up early on and he hasn't been able to recover. 

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2 minutes ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Also how has Appel been a premadonna? 

He's done everything an organization has asked. The Astros so messed him up early on and he hasn't been able to recover. 

what did the 'stro's do to him?

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17 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

what did the 'stro's do to him?

They had this weird development thing where they would have two starters pitch in the minors. So guy x would throw 4 innings, then guy z would throw 4. Then they would do it again, just days later. it was a way to reduce innings. 

Problem is I think it stopped pitchers from developing as starters, with arm strength, pitching to go longer and what not. 

Now, I don't know if Appel would still have issues if he went a more traditional route. But, I don't think its unreasonable to think some of this (along with the injury) could have led to a different pitcher. Much like you have to wonder about Porcello pitching normal in the minors for a couple of years instead of coming up at 19 and learning the sinker to get big league hitters out. 

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5 minutes ago, Keepleyland2 said:

They had this weird development thing where they would have two starters pitch in the minors. So guy x would throw 4 innings, then guy z would throw 4. Then they would do it again, just days later. it was a way to reduce innings. 

Problem is I think it stopped pitchers from developing as starters, with arm strength, pitching to go longer and what not. 

Now, I don't know if Appel would still have issues if he went a more traditional route. But, I don't think its unreasonable to think some of this (along with the injury) could have led to a different pitcher. Much like you have to wonder about Porcello pitching normal in the minors for a couple of years instead of coming up at 19 and learning the sinker to get big league hitters out. 

Interesting. I've heard of that theory - I think the downside is that a young starter often doesn't find his control until he tires a little. If you keep taking him out before he stretches out, maybe it reduces his ability to find and learn his 'groove'. Plus the more obvious point you note that you do want a starter to build stamina - learn to pace, etc. If you asked me, a better way to reduce innings for young pitches might be to just skip them a couple starts after every 50  innings or so. From a physiological standpoint. those longer breaks should be good for deep healing the kind of micro damage that otherwise might be accumulating.

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1 minute ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Interesting. I've heard of that theory - I think the downside is that a young starter often doesn't find his control until he tires a little. If you keep taking him out before he stretches out, maybe it reduces his ability to find and learn his 'groove'. Plus the more obvious point you note that you do want a starter to build stamina - learn to pace, etc. If you asked me, a better way to reduce innings for young pitches might be to just skip them a couple starts after every 50  innings or so. From a physiological standpoint. those longer breaks should be good for deep healing the kind of micro damage that otherwise might be accumulating.

Yep. The astros had their ways and basically had 8 starters pitching every few days for 4 innings. I think it messed with someone like Appel who is a more of a jack morris pitcher with good stuff just needs how to learn to use it all instead of a blow it by you with a wipeout slider type of pitcher. The short starts, at least I think, stunted his development and he never recovered. 

I think it was someone trying to find a solution and by doing so you just create a new set of problems. 

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I guess in my uneducated opinion, I wonder if all of the bullpens / warm up sessions add in to a pitcher's workload moreso than popular convention assumes?  I am sure it is factored in somehow.  And I realize that stuff isn't as taxing as game pitch counts.  This is part of the reason why I wonder out loud sometimes if the strict 7th / 8th / 9th / lefty specialist roles are overrated or maybe overused sometimes, although that could be a separate argument itself because of pitching situations, and giving guys adequate time to warm up and all of that jazz.

The stuff about learning to pitch later in the game makes sense as well.  

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7 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Interesting. I've heard of that theory - I think the downside is that a young starter often doesn't find his control until he tires a little. If you keep taking him out before he stretches out, maybe it reduces his ability to find and learn his 'groove'. Plus the more obvious point you note that you do want a starter to build stamina - learn to pace, etc. If you asked me, a better way to reduce innings for young pitches might be to just skip them a couple starts after every 50  innings or so. From a physiological standpoint. those longer breaks should be good for deep healing the kind of micro damage that otherwise might be accumulating.

I learned this from body building, although you wouldn't know it to look at me now. There is an optimal cycle to muscle rest and recovery after reaching muscle fatigue, too short, and the muscles haven't healed, too long, and the muscles lose strength. 4 days of rest seems optimal, and I think this is why baseball has settled into 5 man rotations. That extra rest in season may just weaken the arm and invite injury, although it could be offset with weight training.

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13 hours ago, Shelton said:

That Braves 2b demeritte has been mentioned before. And there was some kid that stole 70 bases last year whose name I forget. 

I have looked at the Rule 5 as well. I think the player you are referring to is Wes Rogers, 23, RH/OF of Colarado. I am thinking position player as well and with the addition of L.Martin they may not think of an OF. Rogers bats RH and they may feel D.Hill and D.Cameron may be similar players - but you never know... Demeritte sounds good as well. He to is 23, bats RH, double A last year, can also play some 3B. A former no. 1 pick by Texas. IF they trade Ian, then perhaps this is an idea as he, along with D.Lugo could help in coming years to potentially give the Tigs some inf. depth.

If they think Burdi, Stewart or Appel is the wiser choice then so be it - but IMHO, a rebuilding team to acquire a closer type for the future or another young starter (where there is 'some' depth in the system) may not be as logical... Perhaps the Tigs will work out a deal with another team and somehow acquire another Rule 5 slot. It has been done before. I feel the team has an opportunity to get 1-2 players here at this time a week from now. 

Just recently teams have dealt some prospects (yesterday) for Int. bonus funds also.

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8 hours ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Yep. The astros had their ways and basically had 8 starters pitching every few days for 4 innings. I think it messed with someone like Appel who is a more of a jack morris pitcher with good stuff just needs how to learn to use it all instead of a blow it by you with a wipeout slider type of pitcher. The short starts, at least I think, stunted his development and he never recovered. 

I think it was someone trying to find a solution and by doing so you just create a new set of problems. 

Meanwhile they are coming off a World Series where they were carried somewhat by some of those pitchers being able to come into relief and pitch 3-4 innings.

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1 hour ago, Longgone said:

I learned this from body building, although you wouldn't know it to look at me now. There is an optimal cycle to muscle rest and recovery after reaching muscle fatigue, too short, and the muscles haven't healed, too long, and the muscles lose strength. 4 days of rest seems optimal, and I think this is why baseball has settled into 5 man rotations. That extra rest in season may just weaken the arm and invite injury, although it could be offset with weight training.

With pitchers it's not just muscle though. Pitchers are at as much risk for joints and ligaments that have much lower blood supply than muscle and different heal rates.

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43 minutes ago, Microline133 said:

Lots of teams do the tandem starter system, or some variation, in the low minors, including the Tigers. 

Would it be common to treat a college senior grad that way as well? 

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I've noticed that in the past, the Tigers would alternate a tandem pair:  one would start and the other relieve, then next time out they would switch.  Recently though, they seem to be keeping one as the 'starter' for about half a season (while the other relieves), then switching them for the second half.  It's hard to track though, as there are so many other variables complicating the picture.

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10 hours ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Also how has Appel been a premadonna? 

He's done everything an organization has asked. The Astros so messed him up early on and he hasn't been able to recover. 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/8164488/mark-appel-spurns-pittsburgh-pirates-stay-stanford - This is the reason I'm not a huge fan of him. When an organization is willing to draft you in the 1st round, and you turn down millions of dollars, that is a fan turn off especially when they try to go over slot. Now, in his defense, it worked out since he was drafted higher by the Astros. I get it, that it was a business choice, and that it was his choice. I just don't like it when he says that's not enough money. That is why I personally think he's a primadonna. Especially now that he sucks. If he was as good as Stephen Strasburg or Max Scherzer, that'd be one thing. All I can say is I have no remorse he's not having that great of a career (again from a fan perspective). I like kids that play the game because they love it. Maybe I've seen For Love of the Game too many times....

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a few links below.

Pentecost cannot stay healthy and left the AFL early with shoulder pain. The risk is really high with him.

Others have mentioned that J Martin (L) or V Reyes (S) could be seen as a LH corner bat backing up Mahtook and Castellanos

Burdi would also be my pick, but I hope they clear another spot or even 2 more, and roll the dice on some high risk guys.

Funny if they took both Burdi and K Stewart from Minnesota

also

Franmil Reyes, OF
Nobody doubts Reyes' power. The 22-year-old right fielder led all Padres Minor Leaguers with 25 home runs this past season. He batted .258/.322/.464 in 135 games for Double-A San Antonio. Big league teams might balk at his defense, and he's currently recovering from a broken hamate bone in his hand. But Reyes' power bat makes him a serious candidate to be taken in the Rule 5 Draft if the Padres don't protect him.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/262486372/top-available-prospects-in-mlb-rule-5-draft/

https://www.draysbay.com/2017/11/28/16693960/potential-targets-for-the-rays-in-the-upcoming-rule-5-draft

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017/11/28/16710350/intriguing-names-unprotected-for-rule-5-draft-part-1

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017/12/1/16724148/intriguing-names-unprotected-for-rule-5-draft-part-2

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23 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/8164488/mark-appel-spurns-pittsburgh-pirates-stay-stanford - This is the reason I'm not a huge fan of him. When an organization is willing to draft you in the 1st round, and you turn down millions of dollars, that is a fan turn off especially when they try to go over slot. Now, in his defense, it worked out since he was drafted higher by the Astros. I get it, that it was a business choice, and that it was his choice. I just don't like it when he says that's not enough money. That is why I personally think he's a primadonna. Especially now that he sucks. If he was as good as Stephen Strasburg or Max Scherzer, that'd be one thing. All I can say is I have no remorse he's not having that great of a career (again from a fan perspective). I like kids that play the game because they love it. Maybe I've seen For Love of the Game too many times....

looks to me like he made the right decisions, considering that his career is heading straight down the toilet

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1 hour ago, Gehringer_2 said:

With pitchers it's not just muscle though. Pitchers are at as much risk for joints and ligaments that have much lower blood supply than muscle and different heal rates.

Yes, but they are most at risk when the musculature can't support them.

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35 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Others have mentioned that J Martin (L) or V Reyes (S) could be seen as a LH corner bat backing up Mahtook and Castellanos

I hope they don't take a player based on where they fit in 2018, but take a high risk/high reward guy for future years.

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4 minutes ago, Longgone said:

I hope they don't take a player based on where they fit in 2018, but take a high risk/high reward guy for future years.

that's probably better, but the ability to carry a LH corner OFer all year is relatively easy, easier than carrying someone  like Pentecost as a DH

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50 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

a few links below.

Pentecost cannot stay healthy and left the AFL early with shoulder pain. The risk is really high with him.

Others have mentioned that J Martin (L) or V Reyes (S) could be seen as a LH corner bat backing up Mahtook and Castellanos

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Burdi would also be my pick, but I hope they clear another spot or even 2 more, and roll the dice on some high risk guys.

Funny if they took both Burdi and K Stewart from Minnesota

 

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