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Justin Verlander Traded to Astros

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2 hours ago, TigerNation said:

Not that much, it rose about 100-200 depending on which source you use. On Pitch F/X his spin rate went from 2,612 in 2017 to 2,840 so far this year. According to statcast it went from 2,532 in 2017 to 2,629 so far this year.

JV has always been able to hit 3K on a good day. I would guess if his average is up it's because he is more consistent.

a difference of 200 for Cole could be similar  - I'm not familiar enough with Cole's numbers to know if what he is doing now is a higher max than he has been able to hit or not. If a guy's max numbers go up, I would be more suspicious than if his average comes up because his variance to the slow side goes down.

One other thing is that from what I've read (and others here may know a lot more about this than I do) the Statcast system is new and upgraded HW from the original F/X hardware so there may be some variations produced by that change as well.

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16 hours ago, TigerNation said:

What measurement are you using here?

Pitch value from fangraphs

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On 5/5/2018 at 12:53 PM, TigerNation said:

The whole kerfuffle is based upon Cole's increased spin rate. The RPM on his fastball is 200+ higher than in any previous seasons.

Or were they changing the wt distribution and making the ball more lopsided with spit or grease?  

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1 hour ago, NickCantCatch said:

Or were they changing the wt distribution and making the ball more lopsided with spit or grease?  

The accusation is that they use pine tar. Trevor Bauer tweeted about how the only way he knows how to increase his RPM so drastically is by using pine tar.

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Yep, Verlander coming into this one had a manifestly absurd ERA of 1.05 after 10 starts. Now his ERA stands at 1.08. Shame on him for falling short of his established standards. 

Remember after the 2014 season when many of us -- this scribe included -- were concluding out loud that Verlander was done and his Tigers contract would surely stand as one of the great boondoggles in the annals of same? Verlander has methodically laid waste to those conclusions, and in related matters he's looking better than ever.

He's now made 16 regular-season starts since being traded from Detroit to Houston toward the end of last August's waiver period, and over that span he's allowed a total of 15 runs in 108 2/3 innings. Throw in his six playoff appearances (five starts) during their run to the belt and the title last year, and Verlander has an ERA of 1.36 in 145 1/3 innings as an Astro. That's complete dominance at the run-prevention level, and the sample size isn't exactly tiny. 

 

Justin Verlander projected to accomplish a feat that hasn't been done in 75 years

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