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Haven't watched a minute of the playoffs yet but might tune in tonight for the game 7.

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Stating the obvious here, but Washington really needs to upgrade that bench.

A couple of upgrades on the bench and you can make a reasonable argument for them being the east favorite next year.  

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Some other tidbits from The Life.

Jordans dad was a bit of a scumbag.  

Right after Jordan declared for the draft, his dad was convicted of taking kickbacks at the GE power plant he worked at.  He also ran the plant store.  A place employees could come in and buy GE appliances at cost or for a deep discount, just an employee perk.  Anyway, there were plenty of rumors and accusations he was stealing items and selling them.  Because he was fired for the kickback conviction, it was never investigated fully.

When Jordan gets things going with Nike, they give his dad and mom a Flight 23 store to run in Charlotte.  His dad doesn't pay vendors, utilities, or make payroll.  Nike eventually takes the store from him and he starts a new business with his other son.  The exact same pattern emerges.

The Bulls were a joke of an organization.  The year before drafting Jordan they were almost insolvent.  

They didn't send anyone to the airport to pick up Jordan when he came to town just after being drafted.  A random limo driver ended up taking him into the city.  He had been late picking up his scheduled fare and missed it.  So he was looking around trying to pick up someone else so he didn't waste a trip to the airport.  He ended up becoming Jordan's full time driver, personal assistant, and lifelong friend.

They got no media attention back then.  Practices were open to any media that wanted to attend.  They would get maybe one journalist and 2-3 photographers at practice.

Jordan's rookie year they practiced in a community center.  The players were often dressed for practice and had to stand around waiting for school kids to finish with the court.

At the stadium, they didn't take down the glass from hockey games.  So if you had tickets low enough in the lower bowl, you watched the basketball game through the glass.

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2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Stating the obvious here, but Washington really needs to upgrade that bench.

A couple of upgrades on the bench and you can make a reasonable argument for them being the east favorite next year.  

Yup. And play the bench you have, cough, cough, Oubre

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The Zaza play was 100% dirty in every way btw. Popp is my hero for going in on him like that,  and everything else he does for that matter...

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To be fair.  Someone on Reddit dug this up.  Bowen had a rep as a dirty player.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080612112118/http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA111806.05C.BKNspurs.notebook.38e2352.html

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Popovich said Bowen is being singled out, citing incidents where New Jersey's Richard Jefferson and Dallas' Josh Howard sprained ankles after landing on Miami's Shaquille O'Neal and Golden State's Mickael Pietrus.

"Did (the league) call them?" Popovich said. "Did they call all those guys (Dirk) Nowitzki landed on when he sprained his ankles the past three, four years? The answer is no.

"So why did they call Bruce? Because it's happened to him twice? Bruce guards an All-Star every night. If he was doing what they're accusing him of doing, wouldn't it have happened a higher percentage of times?

"The people who cry about it are just frustrated about having to go against Bruce."

Popovich is concerned Jackson's warning has taken away some of Bowen's aggressiveness. Houston's Tracy McGrady scored 21 first-half points most of which came against Bowen on Tuesday. After looking at film of Wednesday's loss to Charlotte, Popovich said Bowen sometimes wasn't within "5 feet" of rookie Adam Morrison.

"The league is just trying to cover its ***," Popovich said. "I told Bruce, 'You be Bruce Bowen. You're the best (expletive) defender in this league. You will NOT change the way you play defense.'

 

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Cavs are a pretty big favorite to win this series.  I wonder when the last time a #1 seed was an underdog in the conference finals.

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On ‎5‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 8:40 AM, Deleterious said:

The book I'm reading about Jordan tells a story about Phil Jackson that makes him look like a real tool.

There was a book written called The Jordan Rules.  Some pretty damaging anonymous quotes in the book about both Jordan and GM Jerry Krause.  Some from players and some from one coach on the staff.  

The season after Jordan retired to play baseball, Phil goes to Krause and tells him that assistant Johnny Bach is the source of the anonymous quotes.  Phil wants to fire him and of course Krause agrees, so they fire him.

Years later the author of the book reveals his source was not Bach, it was Phil Jackson.  The ********** fired Bach as a sacrificial lamb to cover his tracks.  

That reminds me of a story in Ball Four.

Jim Bouton (author of the book) was a controversial Yankee in large part because he would periodically give quotes to the media that were less than glowing, at a time when everyone in baseball was positive and corporate, especially the Yankees.  In any event, near the end of Jim's NY tenure, the Yankees were falling apart quickly after 15 years of dominance.  Predictably in this suddenly worsening environment, a player started giving anonymous quotes, sticking knives into the backs of fellow players, coaches and front office out of frustration.

Of course, this becomes noteworthy and the papers start openly speculating on who the anonymous source is. Elston Howard, team captain and self-styled protector of all things Yankee tradition, calls a team meeting where he makes a big show of his outrage and disappointment, and lays the anonymous quotes on Jim's doorstep.

Jim protested, pointing out he never was afraid to put his name on his quotes in the past, so why would he start now?  But the damage was done, the players sided with Elston and Jim was run out of New York at their behest.

Years later, Jim found out the source of the anonymous quotes from the reporter that received them.  It was none other than team captain Elston Howard who was *shocked* and *appalled* anyone would give an negative quote about a teammate or coach, and do so cowardly as to do it anonymously.

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10 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Some other tidbits from The Life.

Jordans dad was a bit of a scumbag.  

Right after Jordan declared for the draft, his dad was convicted of taking kickbacks at the GE power plant he worked at.  He also ran the plant store.  A place employees could come in and buy GE appliances at cost or for a deep discount, just an employee perk.  Anyway, there were plenty of rumors and accusations he was stealing items and selling them.  Because he was fired for the kickback conviction, it was never investigated fully.

When Jordan gets things going with Nike, they give his dad and mom a Flight 23 store to run in Charlotte.  His dad doesn't pay vendors, utilities, or make payroll.  Nike eventually takes the store from him and he starts a new business with his other son.  The exact same pattern emerges.

The Bulls were a joke of an organization.  The year before drafting Jordan they were almost insolvent.  

They didn't send anyone to the airport to pick up Jordan when he came to town just after being drafted.  A random limo driver ended up taking him into the city.  He had been late picking up his scheduled fare and missed it.  So he was looking around trying to pick up someone else so he didn't waste a trip to the airport.  He ended up becoming Jordan's full time driver, personal assistant, and lifelong friend.

They got no media attention back then.  Practices were open to any media that wanted to attend.  They would get maybe one journalist and 2-3 photographers at practice.

Jordan's rookie year they practiced in a community center.  The players were often dressed for practice and had to stand around waiting for school kids to finish with the court.

At the stadium, they didn't take down the glass from hockey games.  So if you had tickets low enough in the lower bowl, you watched the basketball game through the glass.

I had heard of the story years ago about the limo guy becoming Michael's personal assistant.

Can't say I am surprised about his dad's behaviors given the circumstances surrounding his death.

Regarding the lack of attention surrounding the Bulls when Jordan was drafted, it is surprising to consider on one hand, but on the other it was less than 10 years removed from when most Finals games played on the west coast were on tape delay and aired the following evening.

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59 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Cavs are a pretty big favorite to win this series.  I wonder when the last time a #1 seed was an underdog in the conference finals.

Were the Pisons favored over the Pacers in 2004?

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17 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

Were the Pisons favored over the Pacers in 2004?

Looks fairly even.  Other than game 2 the home team was the favorite.  I can't find a series price.

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No game 6 for some reason.  Oh, it was played in June.  Detroit was the home team and were favored -5.

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