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23 hours ago, Nastradamus said:

Is there any scenario where you look at a Joe Staley type in trade?

No, unless the injury is worse than the Lions are saying. Unless Decker has a rotator cuff injury similar to the one that pretty much ended Pace's career.

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lions also sign koundijo.

wow, they must have had to cut a player or two to bring those guys in.  im sure it was someone not that important to the team, someone who sucked, someone inconsequential...

THEY CUT JIMMY LANDES.  so, yes.

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Good to see that Quinn is being proactive and not just throwing some overwhelmed young player into the role.  Should create some decent competition for that spot and hold the fort until Decker comes back.

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yes, but what kind of message does it send to the team to cut jimmy landes?  if the team knows that there is no competition for long snapper they will all assume their own jobs are safe and get lackadaisical and start lollygagging.

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yes, but what kind of message does it send to the team to cut jimmy landes?  if the team knows that there is no competition for long snapper they will all assume their own jobs are safe and get lackadaisical and start lollygagging.

Just watch. Now Don Muhlbach is going to report to camp late and thirty pounds overweight. And half of the time, he'll just roll the ball back to the holder, instead of snapping it.
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Love the moves. Neither has been great, but both have a good amount of natural talent as well as experience, so I'd call it an upgrade. You can't replace Decker, but this at least makes me feel that the position won't make or break us.

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Robinson has been terrible in the NFL so far, but I read the Rams were running a different blocking scheme and that the Lions run a scheme similar to what he was in in college.  No clue if that's the case, but for the price this seems like a good gamble that he has the potential to be averge-ish to not super putrid.  Maybe some extra Lang insurance too since he kicked in to guard last year though I don't think that went well either.  Not that much went well for the Rams.

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Bob Quinn is a stud. I can't imagine Martin Mayhew in a million years being this aggressive. These moves may not pan out, but probably the worst case scenario is that Kouandjio shows up to the huddle on opening day without wearing any pants.

 

Just joking. What I meant to say is that (barring injury), the worst case is that Kouandjio comes in and does a workmanlike job of filling in for Decker. (FWIW, PFF has Kouandjio with a respectable rating, and credits him with allowing just one sack in 207 drop backs in 2016. https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-lions-add-greg-robinson-and-cyrus-kouandjio/)

 

Best case is that Greg Robinson gets the coaching he needs to unleash his massive physical talent. It's possible that he's a JaMarcus Russell type, where he got paid and checked out. It's also possible that the offensive ineptitude of the Rams and their coaching staff has manifest itself, in part, in Robinson's disappointing performance.

 

In any event, a Lions fan cannot be too excited about Quinn's aggressiveness in addressing the OL.

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Buddha said:

yes, but what kind of message does it send to the team to cut jimmy landes?  if the team knows that there is no competition for long snapper they will all assume their own jobs are safe and get lackadaisical and start lollygagging.

It's the only joke you know.

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11 minutes ago, cruzer1 said:

It's the only joke you know.

i know you.  that's two jokes.

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I don't like giving up the 6th round pick.  Would have needed it next year to draft another long snapper.

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2 hours ago, cruzer1 said:

I don't like giving up the 6th round pick.  Would have needed it next year to draft another long snapper.

I was thinking a 4th string QB. 

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Robinson is at least doing and saying the right things.

Robinson was so excited by the move, he immediately headed to the airport and caught a red-eye out of LAX at 10:30 p.m. He landed in Detroit at 6 a.m., then went straight to the team's practice facility in time to catch the final practice before summer break.

"I plan on benefiting from (the change of scenery) tremendously," Robinson said while speaking briefly with reporters after practice. "It's really refreshing, and I plan to make the most out of it."


http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2017/06/greg_robinson_i_plan_to_make_m.html#incart_river_mobile_home_pop

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A couple of good articles about Greg Robinson.

1. https://theringer.com/greg-robinson-los-angeles-rams-detroit-lions-offensive-line-busts-dc63ea1482f6

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The lack of overlap in technique from the college game to the pros is becoming an increasingly common issue for scouts and evaluators, making a position that’s traditionally been considered a relatively safe bet much trickier to hit on in the draft.

2. https://www.sbnation.com/2017/6/16/15815752/detroit-lions-greg-robinson-trade-draft-bust-win-now-mode: By Geoff Schwartz, who knows a thing or two about OL play. 

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...I’ve written about how offenses that don’t mimic NFL styles can hurt offensive tackles transitioning to the league. This is where Robinson falls right now: uber-talented but technically behind in the league.

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So how and what system does Robinson need to maximize his physical traits? 

An offense that demands linemen jump set and has limited, but potent technique options for blockers. This is why the Lions are a perfect fit for Robinson. The Lions demand their entire offensive line jump sets defenders in pass protection. It fits perfectly into Robinson’s strong suit. He can use his quickness and strength to overwhelm defenders at the line of scrimmage in the pass game. He doesn’t have to be patient and play in space. He can attack. 

The Lions offensive line philosophy is simple and precise. There aren’t lots of drills, and the drills they do have are concise with a purpose. In my best season, 2013 in Kansas City, I played under the same system. I can’t rave about it enough. There is no overcoaching; no useless techniques taught. This will all benefit Robinson in the both the run and pass game. 

A dominate run blocker like Robinson was in college doesn’t just lose the ability in the NFL. He needs some fine-tuning. Detroit will get the most out of him.

 

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2 hours ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

A dominate run blocker

I will never tire of "dominate." It still holds the championship belt over such things as "should of" and "could of" and "noone" and "alot" 

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