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Why is the Stormy Daniels thing news?  Trump used to brag about stuff like that on the Howard Stern show all the time.  Everybody knows he is a horn dog and that Melania is just a trophy wife.  

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2 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

Why is the Stormy Daniels thing news?  Trump used to brag about stuff like that on the Howard Stern show all the time.  Everybody knows he is a horn dog and that Melania is just a trophy wife.  

It's news because Trump paid her off so she wouldn't reveal it before the election.  Everyone including my elementary school kids know Trump loves to ****.

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1 minute ago, Euphdude said:

It's news because Trump paid her off so she wouldn't reveal it before the election.  Everyone including my elementary school kids know Trump loves to ****.

I don't know that that is big news either.  It is all unsurprising to me.  

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Just now, tiger337 said:

I don't know that that is big news either.  It is all unsurprising to me.  

And this is exactly the problem: the sitting President of the United States is reasonably alleged to have paid off a hooker/porn actress to keep quiet about his adulterous affair with her, and you’re just shrugging.

This is one key way in which Trump is winning.

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8 minutes ago, chasfh said:

And this is exactly the problem: the sitting President of the United States is reasonably alleged to have paid off a hooker/porn actress to keep quiet about his adulterous affair with her, and you’re just shrugging.

This is one key way in which Trump is winning.

But, this is the kind of person he has been his whole life and it seemed pretty obvious.  It is part of why so many people hate him.

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8 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

But, this is the kind of person he has been his whole life and it seemed pretty obvious.  It is part of why so many people hate him.

I’m not saying you’re wrong.

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8 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

But, this is the kind of person he has been his whole life and it seemed pretty obvious.  It is part of why so many people hate him.

Exactly, yet Trump wants to hide his extramarital affairs and sexual encounters of his life from the public - despite him bragging about it for decades before he became a politician.  The hypocrisy should be exposed.

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yesterday was the 20th anniversary of Matt Drudge pre-empting Newsweek (I think they spiked it) and announcing that President Clinton had an affair with an intern.  It was monumental news.  Earth shattering.  Serious talk of him resigning.

And now this....

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37 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

But, this is the kind of person he has been his whole life and it seemed pretty obvious.  It is part of why so many people hate him.

I think the thing is.... this isn't behavior we've tolerated from presidents before.   

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4 minutes ago, pfife said:

I think the thing is.... this isn't behavior we've tolerated from presidents before.   

I guess the idea is that people knew the facts going in and still elected him, therefore nothing matters?

I don't agree with it at all, for what it's worth. Just seems like the rationale.

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17 minutes ago, pfife said:

I think the thing is.... this isn't behavior we've tolerated from presidents before.   

We still don't.  There is a segment of the population that tolerates it and laughs at us for not tolerating it.

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3 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

We still don't.  There is a segment of the population that tolerates it and laughs at us for not tolerating it.

I think most people tolerate Trump's thought process being controlled by the worm between his legs.  The attempt to hide it through bribes and gag orders is what people have issue with, and rightfully so.

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2 hours ago, tiger337 said:

We still don't.  There is a segment of the population that tolerates it and laughs at us for not tolerating it.

they won't be laughing come November...........

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20 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

they won't be laughing come November...........

It's a long shot for any non-GOP politician, as every force at play as every media outlet is working hard to tout Trump and demonize anyone who doesn't unconditionally support him.  Any gains the non-Trump movement makes in 2018 will be an unexpected blessing.

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4 hours ago, Euphdude said:

Exactly, yet Trump wants to hide his extramarital affairs and sexual encounters of his life from the public - despite him bragging about it for decades before he became a politician.  The hypocrisy should be exposed.

You know, this is a good point. Everyone knows what an adulterer Trump is. This has never been a secret, and it’s not even a secret that his base delights in it. So why pay even a porn movie hooker to try to hide it? It makes no sense.

Which makes me wonder whether there’s more that they’re paying her to hush up.

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Just now, chasfh said:

Which makes me wonder whether there’s more that they’re paying her to hush up.

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Mmmmmmmaybe ... or she was sent by the Russians to secure some pillow talk from him? Just spitballing here ... 

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12 minutes ago, chasfh said:

You know, this is a good point. Everyone knows what an adulterer Trump is. This has never been a secret, and it’s not even a secret that his base delights in it. So why pay even a porn movie hooker to try to hide it? It makes no sense.

Maybe it's the same reason why every conservative denies that they watch Fox News?

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11 minutes ago, Euphdude said:

Maybe it's the same reason why every conservative denies that they watch Fox News?

What, embarrassment? If that’s what you mean, then I don’t think so. Trump is not above shame, but his adultery was never the source of that. In fact, that’s a badge on honor: bagging any woman or girl he wants, irrespective of marital status. 

The only two sources of potential shame for Trump are (1) that he might not have enough money, and (2) that he might not be popular. Adultery doesn’t figure into either one, far as I can tell.

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1 minute ago, chasfh said:

What, embarrassment? If that’s what you mean, then I don’t think so. Trump is not above shame, but his adultery was never the source of that. In fact, that’s a badge on honor: bagging any woman or girl he wants, irrespective of marital status. 

The only two sources of potential shame for Trump are (1) that he might not have enough money, and (2) that he might not be popular. Adultery doesn’t figure into either one, far as I can tell.

From a normal person's perspective -- disregarding that a normal person wouldn't have extramarital affairs with porn stars -- maybe Trump doesn't want his Baron or future grandchildren knowing about the extremities of his promiscuous and shameful lifestyle?

As for my Fox News analogy, just think about all of the Trump posters we've had that deny watching Fox News.  Practically all of my "real world" conservative friends also deny watching Fox News or listening to Rush Limbaugh.  If conservatives aren't watching Fox News, who is?

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38 minutes ago, Euphdude said:

From a normal person's perspective -- disregarding that a normal person wouldn't have extramarital affairs with porn stars -- maybe Trump doesn't want his Baron or future grandchildren knowing about the extremities of his promiscuous and shameful lifestyle?

As for my Fox News analogy, just think about all of the Trump posters we've had that deny watching Fox News.  Practically all of my "real world" conservative friends also deny watching Fox News or listening to Rush Limbaugh.  If conservatives aren't watching Fox News, who is?

That ship sailed a long, long, long time ago.

Re Fox News/Limbaugh/et al, conservatives who don’t want to admit out loud to watching it know they’ll be judged negatively in the moment for doing so. That’s just human nature. To your earlier point, maybe that’s what was going through Trump’s head, too, but I kind of doubt it’s worth $130,000 to him to prevent people from finding out about stuff we all knew he did anyway.

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1 hour ago, Euphdude said:

From a normal person's perspective -- disregarding that a normal person wouldn't have extramarital affairs with porn stars -- maybe Trump doesn't want his Baron or future grandchildren knowing about the extremities of his promiscuous and shameful lifestyle?

As for my Fox News analogy, just think about all of the Trump posters we've had that deny watching Fox News.  Practically all of my "real world" conservative friends also deny watching Fox News or listening to Rush Limbaugh.  If conservatives aren't watching Fox News, who is?

Trump

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6 hours ago, tiger337 said:

We still don't.  There is a segment of the population that tolerates it and laughs at us for not tolerating it.

Nothing is happening about it, so my conclusion is that we are tolerating it b/c we aren't doing anything about it.

 

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8 hours ago, tiger337 said:

Why is the Stormy Daniels thing news?  Trump used to brag about stuff like that on the Howard Stern show all the time.  Everybody knows he is a horn dog and that Melania is just a trophy wife.  

Did he brag about telling the woman he was banging that she reminded him of his daughter?  

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