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Game #8: Pistons vs Suns

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McDonald's better load up on faux chicken parts when Drummond comes to town.

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Crowd here in Cleveland not just loving the fact Cavs have cut it to 4 late in fourth quarter, but Dwight Howard missed consecutive FT's -- which means everyone gets free 6-piece McNuggets.

 

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The good news is, Phoenix played in Portland last night.

Booker only had 23 points. He scored 38 and 39 the two games before that.

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1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

The good news is, Phoenix played in Portland last night.

Booker only had 23 points. He scored 38 and 39 the two games before that.

I'm just as scared as what Bledsoe and Knight are going to do. 

Also, I'm interested to see how our bigs do vs those of PHX.

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3 starters shooting under 40% and the fourth is shooting 40%. 2 of the starters are under 30%.

Harris and Ish have been bad the past week.

KCP was good but a few questionable shots at the end.

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Very disappointing response after the Clippers debacle.  No offense from the points.  Hurry on back, Reggie.

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It's hard to win on the road without a #1 PG and you can see how much they missed Reggie in crunch time.  They just need to tread water until Reggie returns, win a few games on the road to balance out the inevitable few losses at home and they should be ok.  My worry is that he might be out for longer than originally thought, apparently still "weeks" away which sounds like more than just several weeks so it could be tough sledding to just sneak into a playoff spot if they fall too far behind.

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1 hour ago, NYLion said:

It's hard to win on the road without a #1 PG and you can see how much they missed Reggie in crunch time.  They just need to tread water until Reggie returns, win a few games on the road to balance out the inevitable few losses at home and they should be ok.  My worry is that he might be out for longer than originally thought, apparently still "weeks" away which sounds like more than just several weeks so it could be tough sledding to just sneak into a playoff spot if they fall too far behind.

The Suns match up very well with the Pistons, and really, are a handful for most teams in the L.  Their backcourt is full of Kentucky talent and their bigs are long and active.  For as much talent as they've squandered the past several years, they've also drafted some talented replacements.  We didn't even have to deal with Chandler last night and still lost.

Not having Reggie is a killer against teams like the Suns, which have an arguably better version of Reggie in Bledsoe.

Don't get too down on the team right now, and look on the bright side--KCP showed up big last night on the road.

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This team simply takes way too many low percentage shots on offense. Morris, Harris, Ish, Beno, and others. They love that 15-20 foot jump shot. Y'know, the shot that every coach wants you take because it's the lowest percentage shot on the court. Very little penetration that finishes at the bucket and when we do get a kickout off of penetration we're just not a good three point shooting team.

If you look at successful teams they'll excel in the paint and/or at the three point line because that's where you get the best bang for your buck. A mid-range jumpshooting team is going to struggle, especially on the road when those shots don't fall. Those shots also don't get you to the line or put pressure on the opposing defense.

The only time we're really successful is when our defense steps up and forces turnovers or bad shots. That's when Ish can run and we can often get easy buckets. When the opposition is hitting their shots (LAC) we absolutely grind to a halt in the half court watching Ish like we used to sit around and watch Reggie except that Ish isn't a finisher. We wind up with a bad shot or a low percentage shot because everyone waiting their turn to play one on one basketball and get their mid-range jumper off.

Some days Morris/Harris will be on fire along with our defense and we'll look pretty good, but it's not a winning strategy in general.

I'll also say again that I'm tired of watching Stanley try to chase guards around screens on the perimeter. He's not a speed player, he's a strength player. He's at his best when he's asked to guard SFs like Lebron and Carmello, not chase JJ Redick around the court. I've lost a lot of the hope I had in this kid because I expected to at least see more flashes of what he might become, but even his good games only make me think his ceiling is an average NBA player. The least SVG can do is play him at the position were he has the most chance to succeed though.

One more note: In general bench players will always struggle offensively on the road, that's why they're bench players. Build your bench around defense - like the 2004 Pistons did - and they'll travel well. Stan did not do that this offseason, so when the starters are struggling on the road we don't really have a crew we can look to that will bring a gritty defensive tone to the game to turn things around. You also don't have the luxury of looking to a particular player on the bench that you can go to in order to lock down a position that's hurting you. Our bench players are redundant to our starters rather than complimentary. That's an issue.

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51 minutes ago, Betrayer said:

 

One more note: In general bench players will always struggle offensively on the road, that's why they're bench players. Build your bench around defense - like the 2004 Pistons did - and they'll travel well. Stan did not do that this offseason, so when the starters are struggling on the road we don't really have a crew we can look to that will bring a gritty defensive tone to the game to turn things around. You also don't have the luxury of looking to a particular player on the bench that you can go to in order to lock down a position that's hurting you. Our bench players are redundant to our starters rather than complimentary. That's an issue.

I think getting Ish was important for the bench, as it will get them easier shots. Your next two bench players are pretty damn good defensive players, and Baynes isn't a sieve or anything either. 

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Absolutely Ish was important for the bench, but he's not on the bench right now. Also, he's not a good defender though he tends to pick up some steals with his quickness. Your next two bench players? I assume you mean Stanley and Leuer.

Stanley shows flashes here and there and he'll probably become a good defender but right now he still makes a ton of mistakes and misses assignments/switches. Plus, he's better at guarding the 3, yet SVG keeps making him chase guards around the court. Let's not judge Stanely but what we hope he will become.

Leuer is an average defender. Nobody's going to call him a defensive specialist.

Baynes is hard to watch. He's a big body that can give you some fouls to burn at the Center position and set a solid screen on offense. That's it. He lacks the mobility to guard the screen, he's not a shot blocker that controls the paint at all, and he's not a great rebounder due to his lack of lift and stone hands. I've said it over and over but he's not the type of player this team needs off the bench behind Dre.

When I talk about building your bench around defense I'm not talking about having some guys that can sometimes be ok defenders. I'm talking about having an identity like James/Hunter used to bring. That's the type of bench that travels well and can be used to augment the starters when they're struggling.

But the bench is just one of many issues facing this team right now. The primary issue is off-ball movement, shot selection, and defense. All concerns that SVG echoed in his postgame comments.

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