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AOC raised $5m for Texas.   Cruz (Q, Cancun) went on TV and tried but failed to trash New York.

Both sides tho

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the name of that podcast is all about being an *******.  It's a picture of the supreme court and was started a few days after Ginsberg died.

I'm sure their neighbors and "friends" are really bothered that Heidi is 'pissed".

 

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This probably belongs in the investment thread, but it also applies to COVID relief....

 

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22 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Wow! Millions of pages! That's gotta be SO complex that NOBODY on this PLANET will be able to understand any of it.

Oh wait, that's what forensic accountants are for...

Piece of cake (despite what Stan thinks...).

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14 hours ago, tigerbomb13 said:

 

True stupidity. I want every candidate opposing every GOP member to hammer them with their refusal to increase the minimum wage.... because better than 60% of Americans, spanning all political spectrums, KNOW and agree that it needs to be raised.  
And , please,  also remind the general population out there that the GOP gave away billions to corporations in tax cuts, coupling with refusing to raise the minimum wage for regular Americans.

 

 

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14 hours ago, tigerbomb13 said:

 

The actual tweet said he started as a busboy at $1/hour. He was born in 1961. Let's say he started at age 16. Minimum wage back in 1977 was $2.30. Minimum wage hasn't been $1 since 1964.

Speaking of $1, I will put $1 down on "lying out of his ***".

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Imagine thinking that's a legitimate news source.   Seriously?  SMH

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21 minutes ago, CMRivdog said:

Saying the quiet part out loud

 

Have to believe this won't hurt their case with Roberts, and even possibly Kavanaugh and Barrett. (OTOH, probably exactly why Thomas will support gutting section 2).  Robert's has a history of believing VRA opponents have less dishonorable intentions than they do. A statement like this in open court would seem likely to help him realize his naivete.

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On 2/26/2021 at 11:03 AM, chasfh said:

The actual tweet said he started as a busboy at $1/hour. He was born in 1961. Let's say he started at age 16. Minimum wage back in 1977 was $2.30. Minimum wage hasn't been $1 since 1964.

Speaking of $1, I will put $1 down on "lying out of his ***".

IIRC there were exemptions and considerations for employing full time students.  I did summer hire and part time work study on base in the mid 70s for something around $1.65 per hour.   (It might have been a bit less; I don’t recall specifically.  But it was absolutely much less than $2 per hour.)

I also know that there were exemptions for restaurant workers, but not sure what they were.  Bussers were paid a small share of servers tips at many places in lieu of a wage.   My husband bussed tables in the early 70s for wages but doesn’t remember how much he made.  “I just remember it was low.” LOL. 

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2 hours ago, Melody said:

IIRC there were exemptions and considerations for employing full time students.  I did summer hire and part time work study on base in the mid 70s for something around $1.65 per hour.   (It might have been a bit less; I don’t recall specifically.  But it was absolutely much less than $2 per hour.)

I also know that there were exemptions for restaurant workers, but not sure what they were.  Bussers were paid a small share of servers tips at many places in lieu of a wage.   My husband bussed tables in the early 70s for wages but doesn’t remember how much he made.  “I just remember it was low.” LOL. 

I was a busboy at a few different restaurants in my teens, and I made minimum wage because I was not a tipped employee.

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I remember making something like $1.35 an hour doing greenhouse work circa 1968-1969. It was part time after school and Saturday mornings. But that’s only half the equation, I was also able to fill up the car, take my date to a movie (theater not drive-in) and a couple of burgers and a drink for under $10.

My parent bought their house in 1968 for $12,000. My dad made less than $100 dollars a week. The cost of living has grown, but wages for the average blue collar worker hasn’t. 

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But  none-the-less, to cut through the bull, if Thun was an employee somehow exempt from the regular minimum wage because he was a tipped employee etc., then his anti-minimum wage argument was still essentially a lie. So another Republican lying is the ultimate truth here.

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I think the public has a right to know why anyone receiving a government salary or payout is no longer working for the government.   I can’t think of a reason right now for that to not be the case. 

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What are the voting thresholds in congress for that to happen?  

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4 minutes ago, Oblong said:

What are the voting thresholds in congress for that to happen?  

I believe simple majority, but filibuster...

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I think Minimum wage should be increased.  I got 4.25 which in todays dollars is 8.16 so close, but still under.  It should be more for sure since it has been so long since it has gone up.  It is interesting to look at the history and how it goes up every year for a year or 2 then nothing for like 10 years then it does it again and goes up every year for a couple years then bam 10 years and nothing.  It has been 12 years and time for an increase.  Doubling it is more than I think is needed though.  I always have this discussion and I never get a response.  7.25 goes to 15.00...what happens to the skilled jobs getting 15.00?  I think there is this thought process that the company that pays those skilled workers 15.00 an hour is a millionaire and making loads on his business.  I highly doubt that is the normal case.  The normal case is the guy is making enough to live on.

I have no issue raising the min wage, but such a jump would create issues in the economy for the mid level type businesses to try and keep up with increases.  Now I guess you could just say "well that skilled welder making 15.00 is just going to have to deal with the fact that the kid taking your order at Taco Bell is making the same amount and suck it up" that or the owner of the business may have to consider raising their wages.  What if he cannot afford to do that?

I could easily see 7.25 becoming 10.00 and next year 10.00 becoming 10.50 and the year after going to 11.50 or so and then nothing for 7-8 years.

I think that is fairly reasonable.  I always hear the argument that min wage is not a livable one....I do not think it ever was or was meant to be.  I am not sure why the thought process is changing now.

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32 minutes ago, John_Brian_K said:

  I always hear the argument that min wage is not a livable one....I do not think it ever was or was meant to be.

No - I think that is exactly what it was meant to be, but we have let inflation eat it away to where it's so absurdly far from that that we have to deny that that was the objective or we just all look collectively stupid.

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