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21 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

Trump University.  

Maybe he can use bible passages to drive home his points. 

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9 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I would have thought that long before now the rise of China would have caused the West to start re-evaluating our systems - for a 2nd time, much like the rise of communism in the 20th century did. In the early 20th century,  Western leadership actually did realize that there were aspects in the communist/socialist agenda that needed to be imported into capitalism to save it politically. It was leftest systems that generated the ideas like the use of government power for consumer regulation and the concept of a basic social safety net. Western democracies saw the wisdom of incorporating these ideas as reforms of mercantile capitalism and saw that if they didn't, capitalism would likely suffer political failure. 

It seems that with the collapse of ideological communism, capitalists in the US are now dead set on reversing all the reform constraints on capitalism that have grown up since the first 'gilded era', but now oblivious to the threat to democracy that is still just as implicit in that unfettered mercantile capitalism.

Meanwhile, the lessons we could/should be (re)learning from China, the parts of what they are doing that are helping them clean our clock - in fact things we used to understand;  the value of public investment; the value of education; the meritocracy of objective fact and science; seem completely lost on our current political leadership class. 

But I've made the point before, and my personal conclusion is that it's largely American racism that made us more sensitive to the challenge of white German theoreticians and white Slavic despots then to any wisdom that could come to us from the 'yellow hoards."

Value of education?  IIRC, public education stops after junior high.  The Chinese people seem to value it in that those who can afford it are willing to pay out of pocket for high school, not to mention expecting their own children not to screw around at school. It is more viewed as a privilege but that is cultural.  

There is no universal healthcare for Chinese. 

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3 minutes ago, stanpapi said:

Maybe he can use bible passages to drive home his points. 

No, that would be your boys.  

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51 minutes ago, Melody said:

Value of education?  IIRC, public education stops after junior high.  The Chinese people seem to value it in that those who can afford it are willing to pay out of pocket for high school, not to mention expecting their own children not to screw around at school. It is more viewed as a privilege but that is cultural.  

There is no universal healthcare for Chinese. 

they send 800,000 to university overseas, their domestic university programs are increasing in numbers by large percentages every year in recent decades. University enrollments are up something like 60% in 20 yrs - that is huge change. (Our system is basically stagnant - struggling for funding and searching desperately for new more viable cost and funding models). This is something they are working hard at as a society. The Chinese students at my school are as well prepared as the domestic students. Yes - they may be the cream of the crop in China - but so are our domestic students.

the last two '5 yr plans' have increased healthcare funding and reach substantially, and the government is increasing the requirements on medical insurance programs.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-02/26/c_135131604.htm

We tend to look at China through the same lens that we looked at the USSR with - as a nation incapacitated by an ideology that kept them from acting rationally in too many areas. But China has become a  different place. There is kleptocracy, corruption and repression a plenty, but there is also a real commitment to the advance of their society and to the solution of problems that is currently quite absent in US leadership.

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1 minute ago, Euphdude said:

I thought you said you didn’t watch Fox News?

he doesn't watch it. he reads it. 🙄

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4 minutes ago, Euphdude said:

I thought you said you didn’t watch Fox News?

Is the sacramento bee better for you? 

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article195434569.html

How about this one?

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/California-democrats-want-businesses-to-give-half-12508742.php

How about something called "biphoo"?

https://www.biphoo.com/bipnews/politics/california-dems-propose-surcharge-on-businesses-to-fund-social-programs.html

How about the bill itself?

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180ACA22

Sorry if the sourcing wasn't pure enough for you guys. Maybe you would have preferred I found a kid on twitter with 58 friends and linked it from him? 

It's still the same bad policy....wherever it's sourced from. 

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14 hours ago, stanpapi said:

Good Lord...if you're opening a business, open it as far away from California as possible....

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/20/california-dems-propose-surcharge-on-businesses-to-fund-social-programs.html

Oh, so a bill that would, err, need approval of voters before it could become law?

Well, that sounds awfully like a democracy to me. I should think it's a jolly bad thing old bean. Continue the good work being outraged about something that people would have to approve. Tally-ho and all.

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1 hour ago, Blue Square Thing said:

Oh, so a bill that would, err, need approval of voters before it could become law?

Well, that sounds awfully like a democracy to me. I should think it's a jolly bad thing old bean. Continue the good work being outraged about something that people would have to approve. Tally-ho and all.

Plus it's for social programs.....coming together to help others is, like, totally ewwwwwwwwwww.......

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From the party of less government. Drain the swamp.



Make America Agnostic Again
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6 hours ago, screwball said:

NO!  Tell us it ain't so.

It really just comes down to how many people at the DOJ and the FBI are going to jail at this point. 

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36 minutes ago, stanpapi said:

It really just comes down to how many people at the DOJ and the FBI are going to jail at this point. 

That would be none.

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38 minutes ago, stanpapi said:

It really just comes down to how many people at the DOJ and the FBI are going to jail at this point. 

Yeah texting is illegal

Lmao

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7 minutes ago, pfife said:

Yeah texting is illegal

Lmao

I didn't say anything about texting. 

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Just now, stanpapi said:

I didn't say anything about texting. 

so

 

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I don't think I've seen the "1775" flag in the white house before. Could be wrong, but it's quite conspicuous in its placement. 

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Yeah, that budweiser ad last year right after the travel ban was announced last year wasn't political at all. Nor was the airbnb "we accept" ad. Or the 84 lumber ad that sympathized with illegal immigrants crossing the border.

Everything is political these days. Sports was always removed from that for the most part. Once the nfl decided to politicize its league, that was it for me. I'd rather watch 40 year old hockey games. Not even any ads on the boards.

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