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6 minutes ago, John_Brian_K said:

I like Caesars....either Caesars or the slice for me.  It really depends on what catches on I guess.  Kinda like CoPa...the baseball elite (I think it was them) tried to get that to stick, but it was forced.  Everyone I know calls it Comerica Park.

I think Caesars will probably stick.  The only thing that will prevent it is Caesars already being so close in Windsor.  I can see someone saying "I am going to Caesars' and people thinking they are going to the casino and them having to correct them.  That could get old.

Most people I know don't say Caesars when referring to that Casino.  They just say Windsor Casino or Casino in Windsor.  Or in some cases just casino and it's understood its not Detroit.  Some people can't stand the smoke.

 

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4 minutes ago, Oblong said:

Most people I know don't say Caesars when referring to that Casino.  They just say Windsor Casino or Casino in Windsor.  Or in some cases just casino and it's understood its not Detroit.  Some people can't stand the smoke.

 

I just posted about this in the WSOP thread.  

It is a mix for me as far as people and what they call it.  Some call it Caesars and some just say Windsor Casino.

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1 hour ago, RedRamage said:

Caesar's Palice?

You probably get this a lot. Did, umm, did the real Caesar play hockey here? I didn't think so.

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If I go and buy a $5 Hot-N-Ready before the game at the Little Caesars on Woodward in Midtown will they ban me from taking my pizza into Little Caesars Arena since outside food and beverage is usually banned from being brought in? Wouldn't they be hypocrites by sponsoring the arena and then barring me from being influenced by their advertisement, buying one of their pizzas and trying to bring it in?

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I don't think that is hypocritical at all.

I mean, is it ok for me to bring a bunch of $2 filled sleeves of nickels to Comerica Park that I just got at Comerica Bank?

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FWIW I have seen people take little Caesars into Comerica. In Tupperware

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Also very comparable to condo pre-sales.

Municipalities overpay for privately-owned arenas. Ironically, in Canada hockey arenas are almost entirely privately financed. If public funds are going to be contributed, you'd think the city could have at least asked to receive the naming rights to the arena in exchange. Instead of the Little Caesars little guy on the roof, each year for the next 20 years put the logo of a different Detroit business on the roof. If this  project is about re-developing Detroit and all.

 

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That blows. LED roof would have been pretty cool.

This whole thing stinks. If I actually cared about public financing and evil owners and all that I would be pissed. Thankfully I don't care how much the taxpayers pay for something like this.

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I don't either... I look at Comerica Park on a Friday or Saturday in July and see 45,000 people down there and the restaurants packed...  I don't see that as a bad thing.  Those people weren't there before the stadium was built.   I was at Club X (State Theater) before Comerica was built and it was a ghost town.   Sure someone's getting rich and got a break but I don't live my life worrying whether someone else got something that I didn't get.  I'm doing ok.  

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20 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Mike Illitch as a sports team owner is very different from Mike Illitch the businessman.

The sports teams are an extension of his ego, much like a trophy wife, they reflect on him and feeding his ego spurs his sometimes irrational spending. Mike Illitch the businessman, and now apparently the kids have taken up the mantle, have a different view of what is fair in business dealings with them. If it ain't a deal that is 70/30 or 80/20 to them, it ain't fair in their minds and you as the peon that you are, are just fortunate to be in the room with them*.

 

Edit: *allegedly

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I don't think they should change the name of the arena to Gordie Howe arena.   I mean, Gordie's getting an international bridge, that's pretty good.    I think they will name part of the arena after him, a certain section or gathering place or maybe even the rink surface, they'll do something.   Wish he could have stuck around long enough to see it built, but from what I gathered, he probably would not have known what was going on anyway.   Sad to see that happen to someone, especially a guy who had an incredible detailed memory of even the most benign things.  

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I hope the Pistons stay at the Palace.  It is still relatively new, and I don't think they need to change that.  I don't like teams hopping every 20 years or so.  I think it's too much.  They probably made a mistake putting the Joe where they did.  The new location is better, but will lead to backups on Woodward like crazy.

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9 hours ago, cruzer1 said:

I hope the Pistons stay at the Palace.  It is still relatively new, and I don't think they need to change that.  I don't like teams hopping every 20 years or so.  I think it's too much.  They probably made a mistake putting the Joe where they did.  The new location is better, but will lead to backups on Woodward like crazy.

For selfish reasons I hope to heck they move.  It is easier for us to get downtown and we can do other things while down there.  I have not been to the Palace in like 7 years or so.  I like the Palace.  A lot.  And while it is relatively new and still a good venue I would imagine the Slice is going to be far superior.  I still doubt it happens anytime soon...if anything my guess would be about 4-5 years from now when they can justify it a little more by saying the Palace is getting a little old.

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The Pistons have little reason to move away from the palace any time soon. They would lose a lot of money doing that, I think.

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2 hours ago, Shelton said:

The Pistons have little reason to move away from the palace any time soon. They would lose a lot of money doing that, I think.

Pistons had the 4th worst attendance  in the as % of available seats filled. The might think they can sell more downtown tickets as they would be selling in to what is effectively a larger market. For those of us west of town, downtown is an easy evening , the Palace is practically a weekend trip.:S

Of course, what % of revenues are ticket sales anymore anyway?

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Pistons had the 4th worst attendance  in the as % of available seats filled. The might think they can sell more downtown tickets as they would be selling in to what is effectively a larger market. For those of us west of town, downtown is an easy evening , the Palace is practically a weekend trip.[emoji37]

Of course, what % of revenues are ticket sales anymore anyway?

They had no problem selling tickets when they were winning. And when it comes to season ticket sales, it pays to be close to where the money is.

The obvious factor is that they already own their arena. They rake on parking and concessions (when people show up). That's very valuable. Paying rent to the ilitch empire and losing out on the revenues inherent in owning your own place makes it a lot tougher to make up the difference on additional ticket sales from being able to draw more people from Wayne and washtenaw county.

That said, if it makes financial sense to move to the ilitch arena, they will do it. There are a lot of factors that go into it so maybe there is a way to make it worth it to them.

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