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1 minute ago, Yoda said:

Way too early. It's 5 am. 

I just got home from work.  Almost time for bed.

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Puk was previously drafted by the Tigers in 2013 in the 35th round, but obviously he was headed to Florida, and should be taken before the Tigers select 9th.

 

I like the big guy, Alec Hansen; but he has some big time red flags.  He's had a history of elbow/forearm soreness.  He struggles with command, and loses his velocity late in games.

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Where are you getting this info?  Are you watching these guys, or just distilling stuff from paid websites for free?

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Where are you getting this info?  Are you watching these guys, or just distilling stuff from paid websites for free?

Do you think his statements are out of line if he did get the info from a paid website?

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I heard from a couple scouts I follow on twitter that this draft looks pretty weak, is that really the case?  If so I guess I wouldn't be opposed to going after a guy with high upside that may be a tough sign with our first pick.  That way if he doesn't sign then you just recoup the pick for next year in what hopefully will be better class. 

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I believe it is OK to talk about the draft two years ahead of the event in the NFL.

Baseball's draft has a three month window. You're good.

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6 hours ago, cruzer1 said:

Puk was previously drafted by the Tigers in 2013 in the 35th round, but obviously he was headed to Florida, and should be taken before the Tigers select 9th.

 

I like the big guy, Alec Hansen; but he has some big time red flags.  He's had a history of elbow/forearm soreness.  He struggles with command, and loses his velocity late in games.

Myabe just the angle but Puk looks like he murders his right knee at the end of his follow through - kind of snaps it to lock. You'd think that would hurt.

 

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14 hours ago, Edman85 said:

Where are you getting this info?  Are you watching these guys, or just distilling stuff from paid websites for free?

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Here are some other prospect profiles from mlb.com.  This is free material...

 

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Corey Ray | Rank: 4

School: LouisvilleYear: JuniorPosition: OFAge: 21 DOB: 9/22/1994Bats: L Throws: LHeight: 5 '11" Weight: 185 lb.
Previously Drafted: 2013, 33rd (987) - SEA
 
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Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 55 | Run: 60 | Arm: 50 | Field: 55 | Overall: 55

Ray ranked as the Draft's top position prospect entering 2016 because he offers the best combination of hitting and athletic ability. He should become the highest pick in Louisville history, surpassing current teammate Kyle Funkhouser, who declined to sign with the Dodgers as the 35th overall choice in 2015.

A 33rd-round pick by the Mariners as an Illinois high schooler in 2013, Ray broke out as a sophomore last spring and continued to star during the summer, leading the U.S. collegiate national team in OPS (.971), extra-base hits (nine) and steals (11). He has a quick left-handed bat and makes consistent hard contact, giving him the potential to hit for both power and average. Ray uses the entire field well and has done a better job of managing the strike zone and making consistent contact this spring.

Ray has plus speed and knows how to use it well on the bases. Though he has spent most of his career at Louisville in right field, he runs well enough to play center field. Ray has the offensive production and arm to profile at all three outfield positions, and obviously he'd offer the most value if he can play in the middle.

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Mickey Moniak | Rank: 6

School: La Costa Canyon (Calif.) HSYear: SeniorPosition: OFAge: 17 DOB: 5/13/1998Bats: L Throws: RHeight: 6' 2" Weight: 190 lb.
 
Commitment: UCLA
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Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 45 | Run: 60 | Arm: 50 | Field: 60 | Overall: 55

At the start of the summer, Moniak was thought of as a decent high school prospect from Southern California. By the time the showcase circuit was over, the outfielder had emerged as one of the best high school bats in the nation. He cemented that reputation by continuing to rake all spring.

While Blake Rutherford was thought as the top SoCal high school outfielder, there are now scouts who feel Moniak has caught up, if not passed, him. That's largely because of Moniak'***** tool and his ability to stay in center field long-term. Moniak makes consistent hard contact against high levels of competition. He has a good approach at the plate and can spray line drives to all fields. Moniak has more doubles power now, but there's room in his frame to add strength. His above-average speed works on both sides of the ball, and some see a future Gold Glove caliber center fielder. Moniak gets high marks for his baseball instincts and effort.

The UCLA commit has shown an ability to slow the game down as the competition improves. That should bode well for him at the next level and it would shock few if he ended up being the first high school hitter taken in the first round.

Kyle Lewis | Rank: 3

School: MercerYear: JuniorPosition: OFAge: 20 DOB: 7/13/1995Bats: R Throws: RHeight: 6' 4" Weight: 195 lb.
Previously Drafted: Never
 
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Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 60 | Run: 50 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 55

Lewis may have boosted his stock more in the past year than any college prospect for the 2016 Draft. Undrafted out of a Georgia high school in 2013, he played sparingly as a freshman before nearly winning the Southern Conference Triple Crown and then starring in the Cape Cod League in 2015. He has contended for the NCAA Division I lead in batting and home runs this spring, making it a virtual lock that he'll become the first first-rounder ever from Mercer.

Lewis looks like a right-handed version of Jason Heyward at the same stage of their careers, though he figures to deliver more power and less defensive value. With his leverage and bat speed, he has easy pop to all fields. Lewis' swing is busier than most scouts would like, but his approach is generally sound.

Lewis is a fringy runner out of the batter's box, but he has solid speed once he gets going. Some evaluators think he has a chance to stay in center field, but most believe he's destined for right field, where he could develop into a serious home run threat with average or better tools across the board.

Blake Rutherford | Rank: 7

School: Chaminade (Calif.) College PrepYear: SeniorPosition: OFAge: 18 DOB: 5/2/1997Bats: L Throws: RHeight: 6' 2" Weight: 190 lb.
 
Commitment: UCLA
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Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 55 | Run: 60 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 55

When a player is on the radar for multiple years, there is a danger of prospect fatigue. Rutherford has been a known quantity for a while, playing for USA Baseball's 18U team for two summers in a row, so he has been evaluated more than most high school players.

The left-handed-hitting outfielder from the Southern California high school ranks can do just about everything on a baseball field. Rutherford has the chance to be an above-average hitter with above-average raw power. He'll record average to plus run times, and his speed helps him on the basepaths and in the outfield. Rutherford is a solid defender in the outfield, though most feel he'll move to right field in the future. The good news is his bat should profile just fine if that move does happen.

Rutherford will be 19 when the Draft comes, a year older than most high schoolers, and some evaluators wish they had seen more from him as a result. That shouldn't deter a team in the first round from considering Rutherford's ability to be an everyday player, if not more, at the big league level.

Delvin Perez | Rank: 8

School: International Baseball Academy (Puerto Rico)Year: SeniorPosition: SSAge: 17 DOB: 11/24/1998Bats: R Throws: RHeight: 6' 3" Weight: 165 lb.
 
Commitment: None
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Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 40 | Run: 60 | Arm: 60 | Field: 60 | Overall: 55

The 2012 Draft was a banner one in Puerto Rico, with shortstop Carlos Correa going No. 1 overall and four players going in the top three rounds. Since then, however, a Puerto Rican player hasn't been drafted before the third round. That will change in 2016, once again with a talented shortstop leading the way.

Perez has everything needed to stay at shortstop long-term. He has good speed and instincts, allowing him to have outstanding range. Perez's plus arm works very well from everywhere, and his hands work extremely well. Able to make the flashy play, perhaps his only flaw defensively is that he can try to do too much on occasion. Perez's bat is behind his glove, but there are tools to work with. He can ambush a fastball early in the count, but his approach at the plate and pitch recognition need to be refined. Perez's speed works offensively, and he could grow into more power as he matures.

Premium middle infielders are hard to come by. While Perez has been a bit inconsistent this spring, he's flashed enough raw tools to have him placed very firmly in top 10 picks conversations.

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=draft

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I've always found it fascinating how different an MLB signee is from an NFL signee.

Has a first round MLB draft pick ever come in and contributed significantly in year 1?

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MLB pipeline, (MLB's prospect site) has us taking Pint, which would be a GD home run. A righty who throws 102 with the highest ceiling in the class (with the biggest issue being command. I know right? Shocking the tigers take someone who throws hard but lacks command)

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I would be against that pick, unless the Tigers are 100% they know they can fix his mechanics.  There are a lot of college and HS bats available this year, even a SS.  My #1 priority would be Delvin Perez.  I saw him play last year in a showcase game on MLB Network, he looked fantastic.

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5 hours ago, cruzer1 said:

I would be against that pick, unless the Tigers are 100% they know they can fix his mechanics.  There are a lot of college and HS bats available this year, even a SS.  My #1 priority would be Delvin Perez.  I saw him play last year in a showcase game on MLB Network, he looked fantastic.

You can never have too much pitching and taking the guy with the highest ceiling is never a bad thing. I know people like Perez, but I think that's too many going it's Correra part 2! when he doesn't have the same skill set (not nearly as close in batting). That's not to say I wouldn't take Perez based on how the board shakes out. 

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There is zero chance that Perez ends up like Correa.  Expectations should be closer to Alexei Ramirez, especially when he was younger.

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Just now, cruzer1 said:

There is zero chance that Perez ends up like Correa.  Expectations should be closer to Alexei Ramirez, especially when he was younger.

Which is exactly why I don't want to use the 9th pick on someone like Perez if Pint is an option. 

Alexi or Zach Wheeler? 

Not sure why you were advocating against Pint in the first place?!

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5 hours ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Which is exactly why I don't want to use the 9th pick on someone like Perez if Pint is an option. 

Alexi or Zach Wheeler? 

Not sure why you were advocating against Pint in the first place?!

Pint has a big arm, but he has such a violent arm action that I don't see him able to sustain.  If they feel they can smooth out the mechanics, then I'm all in on him.

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