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Would kill for Ibaka, but no way OKC lets him go unless they have a total collapse and rebuild.

It might not require a total collapse and rebuild though.

It could come down to simple economics. I think that's the only real hope of him getting traded is that OKC makes another Harden-decision... that's my main point from my above-post.

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I'm not a huge Ibaka guy. Part of me would love to have him, but its the bang for the buck that gets me. What we'd give up in trade and what we'd pay him are just not worth it to me. He's basically worthless offensively and he isn't a very good rebounder. He basically blocks shots and shoots a couple wide open 3s a game. A specialist like that doesn't have a ton of value to me.

Not sure I'm seeing the same person you are.

Here's his shot chart:

Serge Ibaka Shot Chart - NBA 2015-2016 Season - vorped.com

He can stretch the floor in both the pick n pop (47% midrange) and at the 3PT Line (39%). On top of that he's giving you 2 blocks per game (4th in the league and almost double what your Center gets) and 7 boards per game.

Let's make a fun comparison and put him next to the other guy who people would kill to have on this team: Kevin Love. Ibaka shoots a higher percentage from both 2 and 3 point range, he gets just one less rebound, blocks over 4 times as many shots, and actually plays good defense. Oh, also Ibaka's a bit younger and get's paid about half of Love's salary.

Basically Ibaka is everything this team needs next to Dre. A guy who can spread the floor on offense while still protecting the rim and defending at a high level on the other end. Outside of Draymond, I don't think you're going to find a more perfect PF for the makeup of this team.

Of course, this is just a "for fun" conversation because he's not going anywhere. Also, for the record, I don't think SVG makes any moves before the offseason.

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https://www.facebook.com/detroitpistons/videos/10153787199995295/

Video of SVG talking about the trade deadline and why we won't likely be doing anything. In particular he talks about guys in the last year of their deal and why there's zero reason to give up an asset to get those guys this year even they like the guy (hopefully he's talking about Horford rather than Anderson).

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Yeah I am not interested in a bidding war for Anderson. He's a great shooter and all, but he does little else, is older, and is very injury prone. I could live with a massive contract for Horford because he much more well-rounded.

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Yeah I am not interested in a bidding war for Anderson. He's a great shooter and all, but he does little else, is older, and is very injury prone. I could live with a massive contract for Horford because he much more well-rounded.

I keep seeing people say Anderson will get $15M+ per year.

Even with the rising cap that seems insane.

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Earl Watson is the new interim coach for the Suns.

One word. Showcase...

Maybe. Maybe not.

He may legitimately want to hold onto Markieff. It certainly wouldn't be a bad move.

If he is available though, I'd still have interest in trying to get him. SVG might not want to though; I wonder what he really thinks about this situation...

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I wonder where Brooklyn's head is 2 weeks from the deadline. Thad Young is on a nice contract and is a much better player than what we have at PF. If we dangle our first rounder (they don't have 1) + Jennings we could be able to swing that. He's only 27 and gives us our PF we need moving forward with Ersan. Would rather have him than max out Anderson. Lol

Question is.... Do we make that move?

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I wonder where Brooklyn's head is 2 weeks from the deadline. Thad Young is on a nice contract and is a much better player than what we have at PF. If we dangle our first rounder (they don't have 1) + Jennings we could be able to swing that. He's only 27 and gives us our PF we need moving forward with Ersan. Would rather have him than max out Anderson. Lol

Question is.... Do we make that move?

If we are going to go this route, I would rather have someone with some ceiling left like Terrence Jones. I like that he can protect the rim a little. Jones is having a bad year and has been a little injury prone, so obviously this is a much bigger gamble for SVG.

It seems like Morey isn't doing anything to secure a future for Jones, so maybe the price is reasonable.

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I wonder where Brooklyn's head is 2 weeks from the deadline. Thad Young is on a nice contract and is a much better player than what we have at PF. If we dangle our first rounder (they don't have 1) + Jennings we could be able to swing that. He's only 27 and gives us our PF we need moving forward with Ersan. Would rather have him than max out Anderson. Lol

Question is.... Do we make that move?

He doesn't shoot 3s or play D. He's not what I'm looking for at the 4 personally.

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He doesn't shoot 3s or play D. He's not what I'm looking for at the 4 personally.

Agreed. He's a worse shooting, better rebounding Ilyasova.

The Pistons need a stretch 4 or at the very least, a 4 who can defend the rim. Young has always been a good scorer but he doesn't really fit the Pistons needs.

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How about Jennings,Morris,Meeks and a 1st for Melo?

Speaking of not playing D. Plus, I don't see how this fits with our team. SVG likes to run the offense through Reggie in the pick n roll where Melo is a ball stopper that likes to play point forward and requires a lot of touches and shots.

And why would NY do this?

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Speaking of not playing D. Plus, I don't see how this fits with our team. SVG likes to run the offense through Reggie in the pick n roll where Melo is a ball stopper that likes to play point forward and requires a lot of touches and shots.

And why would NY do this?

Seems like they wouldn't mind starting over and clearing his money off the cap. They dont' have a PG, they don't have a 1st rounder this year and Morris helps fill part of the void Melo leaves behind.

For us, we clearly need more scoring, Melo can play both the 3 and the 4 in this offense. He can be another creator to compliment Reggie but also shoots well enough to play off of him. I think Jackson/Melo/Drummond would be pretty formidable

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Brandon Jennings to Nets for Thaddeus Young latest NBA trade rumor

I see my idea last night may actually have some legs. Assuming there's no picks involved a Young-Jennings swap is a great move for us.

I would like this deal quite a bit.

Young is productive and on a decent contract. 2 more years at about $12M each year. Third year is a player option for $13.7M.

If they get Brooklyn to throw in Larkin as well, total steal.

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Confirmed. Sydney_Fife is running the Pistons.

Hahahaha total luck! Throw around enough ideas you're bound to get one that's at least plausible!

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I would like this deal quite a bit.

Young is productive and on a decent contract. 2 more years at about $12M each year. Third year is a player option for $13.7M.

If they get Brooklyn to throw in Larkin as well, total steal.

I like Thad Young. He's a lot better than Tolliver. Not the 3 point bomber but he does literally everything else better than what we got. He is still only 27 so he's not over the hill by any means.

Jennings and Bullock for Young and Larkin without any picks is a damn steal.

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I know it's Sheridan and people have issues with him. But I was happy to hear multiple teams are after Jennings.

How reliable is he? I know he had the LeBron to Cleveland before anyone else

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That deal makes sense to me. SVG has gone on the record that they need to build through trade and the draft. Going into the summer when everyone has cap space and getting into bidding wars for Horford and Anderson is very risky. Horford may not want to come here and Anderson is injury prone and plays zero defense. The idea of having cap space kind of goes out the window this summer when everyone will have it. I think this would be the smart, safe bet.

Jennings is a goner. He isn't coming back. Young is still 27, on a nice deal like Del said, and brings a quality all-around game. No he doesn't shoot the 3 very well. But he does everything else better. The guy has 22 double-doubles this year. He's got a mid-range game and can attack off the bounce.... Pair him with Ilyasova and I think we have a decent PF combination moving forward without breaking the bank on one guy.

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