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Are you freaking kidding me? You're going to have the GM hire his son? Yeah, I'll sure he'll be an evaluate his performance objectively.

He's been his boss before, as GM Mike would know what kind of players his son wanted for his systems and they have a strong history of success when it comes to QBs,running games and winning. Hiring the right DC would be huge, but you have one side of the football that is virtually guaranteed to be strong. They've also shown they can find guys who will succeed in their systems using lesser resources.

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I could see the Lions hiring Dantonio.

I'm not really sure how he would do in the pros.

I think its possible he could do well there. He wouldn't be my choice though.

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Offseason plan

Hire a coaching staff who can run the ball. I vote for Mike Shanahan as president(maybe he keeps Xanders or something as GM?) and his son Kyle as HC.

Devote most of your draft and cap resources to the defense.

No! Stay a millions miles away from the Shannahans.

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Did someone forget to mention to the Lions that the opposing QB is NOT required to stay behind the line of scrimmage? Smith got 78 freakin' yards! That's more than all the Lions RBs combined yesterday. 78 yards.

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Looking up some more numbers and it's even more depressing (in a funny sort of way).

Smith had more rushing yards yesterday than the Lions did in all but two games this year.

Smith had more rushing yards than the Lions did in the Vikings and Broncos games combined.

Smith's average of 5.6 yards per carry easily beats any Lions RB.

Smith's 202 yards on the ground this year is higher than every Lions back except Abdullah, who has 225.

Smith's 78 yards rushing yesterday is more than the 2015 total for: Riddick, Winn, and Zimmer. (Bell too, but he's only had one game so far.)

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Gunther is still with the lions organization. Why not replace Caldwell with him, he might actually provide an opportunity for change this season.

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No! Stay a millions miles away from the Shannahans.

Kyle's had the offense humming in Atlanta for most of this season and has made Devonta Freeman and a once putrid offensive line look like perennial studs. I don't think I'd hire him, but he has worked well in Atlanta with Dan Quinn.

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No! Stay a millions miles away from the Shannahans.

I don't understand this at all. I think they bring exactly the kind of respectability we crave. Shanahan had 10 seasons in Denver post Elway for example. Only 4 playoff appearances, but 2 other winning seasons and only 2 losing seasons, one being the season right after Elway left. The other was a 7-9 season. Its almost a guaranteed top 10 run game which I don't know if we've had since Barry. They made RG3 look like the best QB the world has ever seen until he got hurt, Kyle has Devonta Freeman and Matt Ryan crushing the league right now. Kubiak put up a winning record and won a few playoff games as part of the same tree as well.

You have to remember in Washington that they

- were missing draft picks when he got there

- traded a ton of picks for RG3, which didn't work out and which Shanny was supposedly against

- got hit with a huge 2 year cap penalty due to the owners' shady dealings during and after the lockout.

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Gunther is still with the lions organization. Why not replace Caldwell with him, he might actually provide an opportunity for change this season.

I'd actually be fine with something like this

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Looking up some more numbers and it's even more depressing (in a funny sort of way).

Smith had more rushing yards yesterday than the Lions did in all but two games this year.

Smith had more rushing yards than the Lions did in the Vikings and Broncos games combined.

Smith's average of 5.6 yards per carry easily beats any Lions RB.

Smith's 202 yards on the ground this year is higher than every Lions back except Abdullah, who has 225.

Smith's 78 yards rushing yesterday is more than the 2015 total for: Riddick, Winn, and Zimmer. (Bell too, but he's only had one game so far.)

Here's a good stat I saw today. Ben Roethlisberger loses 6 ypa and 13 comp% points when Le'veon Bell is off the field. Food for thought at the very least.

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Pretty sure Jeff Rieger at The Ticket reads this board, because he just proposed this idea damn near verbatim on the air.

Maybe Drew Sharp reads the forum too:

Perhaps Goodell could convince Hall of Fame chief executive Bill Polian to leave ESPN and temporarily "assign" him to the Lions for the next six months. He could be given the power -- with Mrs. Ford's blessing -- to inspect and evaluate every aspect of the football operation and then make the difficult, unpopular decisions that this organization has been too afraid to make for decades.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/columnists/drew-sharp/2015/11/02/detroit-lions-martha-ford/75040212/

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Everybody here would make a clean sweep of the organization, but everybody here also knows that Martha will not do that. Martha, like Bill, doesn't hire for competence. She hires for loyalty, because she understands loyalty.

How do we know that? Don't get me wrong here, I suspect you're probably right, but to speak in absolutes I think it's fair. Let's see what happens. As I said, you're probably right but I'll wait until we see what happens before I despair completely.

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How do we know that? Don't get me wrong here, I suspect you're probably right, but to speak in absolutes I think it's fair. Let's see what happens. As I said, you're probably right but I'll wait until we see what happens before I despair completely.

That's fine, you can wait and see and hope if you like. I will say this, though: if Roger Goodell calling her a "terrific" owner doesn't concern you, then maybe nothing can. :grin:

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That's fine, you can wait and see and hope if you like. I will say this, though: if Roger Goodell calling her a "terrific" owner doesn't concern you, then maybe nothing can. :grin:

Would Goodell publicly say an owner is terrible?

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That's fine, you can wait and see and hope if you like. I will say this, though: if Roger Goodell calling her a "terrific" owner doesn't concern you, then maybe nothing can. :grin:

To be fair, what is Roger (her employee) gonna do? come out and say "She sucks. God she has no idea what she is doing"?

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That's fine, you can wait and see and hope if you like. I will say this, though: if Roger Goodell calling her a "terrific" owner doesn't concern you, then maybe nothing can. :grin:

Well... for what it's worth, even if you "know" she's loyal to a fault, you'd still have to wait and see. There's not much we individually can do. Even a mass protest will likely have any immediate effect so we're all in the same boat. I'm not really expecting significantly different action from her vs. her husband, but I guess I do hope so.

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.......I'm not really expecting significantly different action from her vs. her husband, but I guess I do hope so.

We do know that 3 clowns have already been fired this season. If old man Ford was still alive, do you think that would have happened after 7 games? I don't.

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We do know that 3 clowns have already been fired this season. If old man Ford was still alive, do you think that would have happened after 7 games? I don't.

I think so because I don't think those firing were sent from above. I think those came from within the Lions front office. I think it was a move of desperation... the idea being that SOME THING had to happen... SOMEONES head had to roll and if they didn't take out someone their heads were on the line.

Look, let's say that the Lions performed much better in London. They didn't even have to win necessarily, but what if the offense looked much better? Heck, what if the offense looks much better in two weeks? Won't all the yes men in the Lions org say: "SEE!! SEE!! We told you Jim Bob was the right guy here. Now you just have to give us more time. Look, we replaced the OC and you can already see a difference. Yeah, the defense is hurting, but that's because of injuries and losing Suh. Give us another year or two to bring in some more talent, for Levy to be healthy again. It might not be in 2016, but by 2017 we're going to be a force in the league!"

Just those coaches plus a slight improvement from the offense could have... heck, still might... buy the current staff another year or two.

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Would Goodell publicly say an owner is terrible?
To be fair, what is Roger (her employee) gonna do? come out and say "She sucks. God she has no idea what she is doing"?

Oh, sure, I agree that if Goodell had to say anything at all about Martha Ford, it's going to be good things, in the interest of presenting a unified face in any situation. You are both 100% right about that. But that he had to say anything like that at all, especially in the patronizing way he did*, would concern me because it feels to me like he's trying to create a cover for a non-functioning organization that is serving only to be a foil for the better franchises in the league. (After all, the good teams have to fatten up their records against someone.)

Well... for what it's worth, even if you "know" she's loyal to a fault, you'd still have to wait and see. There's not much we individually can do. Even a mass protest will likely have any immediate effect so we're all in the same boat. I'm not really expecting significantly different action from her vs. her husband, but I guess I do hope so.

I get where you're coming from, but myself, I am over wait and see. I don't know how old you are, but I've been waiting to see for almost half a century now, and it never gets any better, and it frequently gets worse. This is especially true because it looks as though the League is conspiring against them. The interference flag they picked up against the Cowboys was, for me, the last shred of a straw. I've had no expectations and no disappointment since then. It's all theater to me at this point. Totally free of tension. Only a drastic or dramatic event, meaning new ownership or a Super Bowl appearance, can can bring my heart back into it.

* - Patronizing as in, "She's so well-informed" and "she's a remarkable woman" and "she understand the NFL"—you know, the things he wouldn't feel he has to say about a male owner, for whom we would all take these things so for granted that they would be beyond even mentioning.

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Any chance Tom Gores would buy the Lions?

I think he would be a good owner, but since he owns the Pistons, he couldn't buy the Lions.

NFL Cross Ownership Rules

Cross-ownership rule

Team owners are now allowed to own teams in multiple major sporting leagues, but those teams need to be in the same city (unless there is no NFL team in the other city). Buffalo native Jeremy Jacobs owns the Boston Bruins, but would have to sell that team in order to become the majority owner of the Bills. Seattle Seahawks owner Paul Allen can also own the Portland Trailblazers because Portland doesn't have an NFL market.

Ironically, this rule change was opposed by Ralph Wilson in 1997, when NFL owners lifted restrictions on other sports' owners from purchasing an NFL franchise. To that point, NFL owners collectively wanted their team owners concentrating on football.

Edited by nd1377

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I think Platinum Equity owns the Pistons. Does that help?

Look above as it claims the NFL wants the owner to have their minds on their NFL team only and that is partly why they have the rule.

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