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10/11/15. Cardinals at Lions. Week 5. FOX, 4:05pm.

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"Stafford has so little time to throw. When he does, it's because there's an offensive penalty." - Jon Gruden

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(3-1) @ (0-4)

Your Detroit Lions

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The Arizona Cardinals

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NFC Conference

Week 5

Location: Ford Field, Detroit, Mich.

Date: October 11th, 2015

Time: 4:05pm EST

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Controversial play allows Seattle to beat Detroit 13-10

SEATTLE -- With one big punch, Kam Chancellor showed his importance to the Seattle Seahawks.

And once again, the Seahawks may have received another Monday night break from the officials in the same end zone where the infamous "Fail Mary" took place.

Chancellor knocked the ball free from Detroit wide receiver Calvin Johnson at the 1-yard line when it appeared the Lions were going to take the lead, and Seattle held on for a 13-10 win. With Detroit on the verge of capping a 91-yard drive with the go-ahead touchdown with less than 2 minutes remaining, Chancellor came from the side and punched the ball from Johnson's arm as he was being tackled by Earl Thomas. It bounded into the end zone where it was guided over the back line by K.J. Wright for a touchback and Seattle's ball at the 20.

Wright should have been called for an illegal bat for hitting the ball out of the end zone, NFL VP of Officiating Dean Blandino told NFL Network. The penalty would have given the ball back to Detroit at the Seattle 1. But no flags were thrown and on the ensuing possession, Russell Wilson found Jermaine Kearse for 50 yards on third down. With Detroit out of timeouts, the Seahawks (2-2) ran off the final seconds of their second straight win.

"The back judge was on the play and in his judgment he didn't feel it was an overt act so he didn't throw the flag," Blandino said. "In looking at the replays it looked like a bat so the enforcement would be basically we would go back to the spot of the fumble and Detroit would keep the football." Wright said he did not know the rule and Seattle coach Pete Carroll acknowledged the Seahawks got a break. "Now that you look at it, we were fortunate," Carroll said.

Detroit (0-4) is off to its worst start since it also started 0-4 in 2010 on its way to a 6-10 season, and with a schedule that offers little relief going forward. "It's unfortunate, but you can't put the game in the referee's hands," Johnson said.

It was an ugly performance by the home team, filled with offensive mistakes and two fourth-quarter fumbles by Wilson, the second returned 27 yards for a touchdown by Caraun Reid to pull Detroit to 13-10. But in the end, Seattle's defense came through.

Starting on their 9 with 6:23 remaining, the Lions converted a big third down on Golden Tate's 22-yard catch-and-run and reached the Seattle 46 with 3 minutes left on Ameer Abdullah's 9-yard run. Matthew Stafford then zipped a pass to No. 3 tight end Tim Wright down the seam for 26 yards to the Seattle 20 with 2:30 remaining, placing it in-between Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas and Chancellor. The Lions reached the Seattle 11 and on third-and-1, Stafford passed to an open Johnson. As he stretched for the goal line, Chancellor came across and knocked the ball free.

Seattle has not allowed an offensive touchdown in the two games since Chancellor ended his holdout and has forced 18 punts during that stretch.

"It was big time," Seattle linebacker Bobby Wagner said of Chancellor's return. "He just made us a whole defense." Wilson was forced to be an escape artist as Seattle's offensive line continued to struggle with protection. Wilson threw for 287 yards and rushed for another 40 yards. Wilson's most memorable play was spinning free of two near sacks and finding Kearse for 34 yards in the second quarter, and then hitting Doug Baldwin on a 24-yard TD on the next play.

Seattle was without Marshawn Lynch for the first time since Week 7 of the 2011 season against Cleveland when Lynch had back problems flare up during pregame warmups. Thomas Rawls rushed for 104 yards last week in relief of Lynch, but could not get started against a better Lions defense. Rawls finished with 48 yards on 17 carries.

Stafford was 24 of 35 for 203 yards for Detroit, which lost starting tight end Eric Ebron and both starting defensive tackles Haloti Ngata and Tyrunn Walker to injuries. Ebron suffered a knee injury in the first half after having two early catches, while Ngata and Walker both went out in the second half. Ngata suffered a calf injury while Walker was taken off on a cart after suffering a left leg injury in the fourth quarter.

Notes:

Frustrated Lions WR Golden Tate repeatedly says all he can do is run plays that are called

SEATTLE -- Golden Tate looked and sounded shellshocked in the locker room following the Detroit Lions' 13-10 loss to the Seattle Seahawks.

Tate finished with just three receptions in the loss, totaling 29 yards. It's the second time he's been held under 30 receiving yards this season after never falling below that mark in 2014, his first season with the Lions. Tate was targeted just four times against his former team. The lone incompletion came on a deep pass, heaved by quarterback Matthew Stafford into double coverage.

Although Tate never directly complained about Detroit's offensive scheme or coordinator Joe Lombardi, the receiver's frustrations were clear as he repeated the same answer whenever he was asked about his or the unit's continued struggles. "I don't know, man," Tate said. "All they do is call the plays, I run the plays. That's all." The Lions finished the game with 256 yards of offense, the team's lowest output during an already frustrating season. Of those 256 yards, 90 came during the team's final possession. Why did it take some long to start moving the ball?

Tate stuck to his guns.

"They call the plays, I run the plays," he said. "We'll just leave it at that." Tate sounded at a loss. Asked how exasperated he is at this point, he acknowledged the losing is dragging him down. "I don't take losing very well, man," he said. "Losing has never been part of my DNA, so it's tough."

Tate has been to the playoffs four times in five professional seasons. He made three trips as a member of the Seahawks from 2010-13, winning at least one game each year, including the Super Bowl during the 2013-14 season. Monday's game was a homecoming of sorts for Tate. He chatted with a number of former teammates before the contest and had dinner with Seattle wide Jermaine Kearse the night before the game. The two exchanged jerseys after the final whistle on Monday.

Still, it all seemed to matter little in light of the loss.

"Good to see everybody, but I wanted to win the game," Tate said. Even at 0-4, Tate knows the team can't dwell long on its struggles long. They have a six-day turnaround before the Arizona Cardinals come to town. Come Wednesday, it's back to the drawing board. "We'll just design some more plays and I'll run them the best I can, try to give this team the best chance I can at winning," Tate said. In four games, Tate has caught just 18 passes for 190 yards and zero touchdowns. He's well behind last year's pace, when he led the Lions with 99 catches and 1,331 receiving yards.

NFC North Standings:

Green Bay (4-0) 1.00

Minnesota (2-2) .500

Chicago (1-3) .250

Detroit (0-4) .000

Lions Injury News:

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Cardinals Injury News:

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Seattles D is pretty darn good. Which is why he did not have time to throw. Our O line is pretty darned bad which is why he did not have time to throw.

If we lose to the Cardinals the season is officially over.

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Seattles D is pretty darn good. Which is why he did not have time to throw. Our O line is pretty darned bad which is why he did not have time to throw.

If we lose to the Cardinals the season is officially over.

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....If we lose to the Cardinals the season is officially over.

Correct.

The 3 wins that the Cardinals have are against teams with a combined record of 3-9.

This game is winnable for the Lions at home and they need to get it done or as JBK said, it is over.

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Correct.

The 3 wins that the Cardinals have are against teams with a combined record of 3-9.

This game is winnable for the Lions at home and they need to get it done or as JBK said, it is over.

All that means is that next week the team facing them will be saying: "The Cardinals have 4 wins against teams with a combined record of 3-14."

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I don't love how we match up. We have to pressure Palmer up the middle. They have a lot of receiving options that scare me.

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Lost 4 straight. Should have won 1. Could have won another. Rip off 4 straight wins...1 we should have lost. 1 we could have lost. And all is right with the world. Then the bye week and win another game against the pack IN GB to make us 5-4 and watch this board explode. 5 wins in 6 weeks...a solid month of actually winning...

IF that happens you will hear more than one person talking about the super bowl. Guaranteed.

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....IF that happens you will hear more than one person talking about the super bowl. Guaranteed.

As a lifetime fan, it will at least be in the back of my mind.

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Fwiw, Suh still grades out like he usually does on PFF

Yep, but the Dolphins run D has still been trash. In fact, they've been up the most rushing yards/game of any team in the NFL. By a lot. Perhaps it is his 0 sacks that are boosting that rating.

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...win a game against the pack IN GB to make us 5-4 and watch this board explode.

Hey, a win against the pack in GB... that makes the season not a total loss in my opinion. Sure, not happy with the rest of the season if it plays out poorly, but to get that monkey off our backs would be a nice little consolation prize I guess.

IF that happens you will hear more than one person talking about the super bowl. Guaranteed.

Probably... it would be dumb, but probably.

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Almost like predicting 0-16 :cheeky:

Almost... but not quite. And right now my 0-16 is still looking like a possibility. I suspect the refs as a union bet on the Lions to go 0-16 as well, so we're working against them too.

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Lost 4 straight. Should have won 1. Could have won another. Rip off 4 straight wins...1 we should have lost. 1 we could have lost. And all is right with the world. Then the bye week and win another game against the pack IN GB to make us 5-4 and watch this board explode. 5 wins in 6 weeks...a solid month of actually winning...

IF that happens you will hear more than one person talking about the super bowl. Guaranteed.

I agree. It is not inconceivable (though it is improbable) that they can take the Cardinals, Bears, and Vikings at home, at which point they would be 3-4 headed to KC at the halfway mark. It would be a tough game, but Alex Smith is not a world beater.

The defense has kept them in every game. Barring catastrophic injury, the OL, play calling, and execution couldn't possibly get worse. Maybe this team can finally find a way to score some points offensively.

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Don't show up. Give the crooked NFL a big F you.

Send a message. Nothing but a bunch of crooked, lying, cheating and fixed games.

Or....just win? : )

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Only a Lions fan starts draft watch in serious measure and starts scouting prospects at the week 5 mark. If we lose, that will be what I am doing.

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Lions pull out a close one.

Lions 17

Cardinals 16

If this happens I would be 5-5 in my pre-season prediction.

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Only a Lions fan starts draft watch in serious measure and starts scouting prospects at the week 5 mark. If we lose, that will be what I am doing.

I don't even bother. The only Lion draft pick with any chance of making an impact is their 1st rounder, sometimes their 2nd rounder.

They are so bad at finding and developing talent I don't even want them to lose just to move up anyway.

I believe the Lions have many picks next draft. Time to clean house before these bozos draft another tight end very early in the draft.

I like Caldwell and would like to see him stay but Lombardi has to go, the sooner the better.

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I agree. It is not inconceivable (though it is improbable) that they can take the Cardinals, Bears, and Vikings at home, at which point they would be 3-4 headed to KC at the halfway mark. It would be a tough game, but Alex Smith is not a world beater.

The defense has kept them in every game. Barring catastrophic injury, the OL, play calling, and execution couldn't possibly get worse. Maybe this team can finally find a way to score some points offensively.

The Lions haven't led since the 4th quarter in S.D., the first game? I read that but didn't research it. I do find it hard to believe.

It all started going downhill on the 3rd and 19 completion by Rivers in San Diego. The defense has played good at times, not so good at other times.

The offense has stunk, no doubt about it. The Kool-Aid this year during training camp was how all the core players were so much more comfortable in their 2nd year of Lombardi's offense. Really can't judge our backs, receivers or our QB when the O-line has stunk so bad.

I really want the Cubs to make a long playoff run in baseball. That would be one less team (of very few) we can point at in sports and say their history is worse. The number is getting shorter.

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The Lions haven't led since the 4th quarter in S.D., the first game? I read that but didn't research it. I do find it hard to believe.

It all started going downhill on the 3rd and 19 completion by Rivers in San Diego. The defense has played good at times, not so good at other times.

The offense has stunk, no doubt about it. The Kool-Aid this year during training camp was how all the core players were so much more comfortable in their 2nd year of Lombardi's offense. Really can't judge our backs, receivers or our QB when the O-line has stunk so bad.

I really want the Cubs to make a long playoff run in baseball. That would be one less team (of very few) we can point at in sports and say their history is worse. The number is getting shorter.

What other team comes close? Even the cubs have had more tecent success than the lions.

There is no organization as pathetic as the detroit lions.

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