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WOW! Martha Ford is alive and actually cares about the Lions.

Lions Fire Coaches

......Jim Caldwell said he wouldn't shake up his staff.

Four hours later, he shook up his staff. The only question is whether it was voluntary or forced upon him from the front office or ownership......

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Why bother? Except not get Stafford a serious injury? Might as well sit him and anyone else we expect to contribute next season. No reason to take a chance on a season that's in the toilet anyway. Unless they plan on winning their last 9 games? What would the odds on that be, about a million to one? : )

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Hot diggity dog. That made my day.

Edit:

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2015/10/26/detroit-lions-coaches/74631710/

PS: I know this has already been mentioned, but the fact that this happened just hours after Caldwell expressed support for Lombardi, is a huge slap in Caldwell's face.

Did Mayhew order it, to get out in front of the finger-pointing war, or did Mrs. Ford? Interesting to see how this one plays out.

Edited by Jason_R

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.....Did Mayhew order it, to get out in front of the finger-pointing war, or did Mrs. Ford? Interesting to see how this one plays out.

Maybe Mrs. Ford told the coaching staff/front office that at least one coach/front office employee will be fired after every loss for the rest of the season.

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http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/10/detroit_lions_fire_oc_joe_lomb.html

The MLive article says that later Stafford and Manny Ramirez are going to address the media.

Manny Ramirez??? I don't even recall him getting a snap yesterday. (Correction: Three on special teams: http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/10/detroit_lions_snap_counts_joiq.html)

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Detroit Lions fire offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi, 2 assistants | MLive.com

The MLive article says that later Stafford and Manny Ramirez are going to address the media.

Manny Ramirez??? I don't even recall him getting a snap yesterday. (Correction: Three on special teams: Detroit Lions snap counts: Joique Bell sees limited work in return to lineup | MLive.com)

I guess Don Muhlbach was not available.

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.....The MLive article says that later Stafford and Manny Ramirez are going to address the media......

Player mutiny? If so, Caldwell will be gone during or after this season.

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Jim Bob Cooter. Just another contestant for strangest arrest of a Lions coach.

Report: Lions Hiring Jim Bob Cooter Despite Arrests in ’09, ’06 « CBS Detroit

For those that don't click the link.............. A DUI in 2006 and then in 2009, climbed in the window of a woman's apartment, stripped down to his underwear and crawled into bed with her............This is your new OC.

This team is a ****ing disgrace.

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For those that don't click the link.............. A DUI in 2006 and then in 2009, climbed in the window of a woman's apartment, stripped down to his underwear and crawled into bed with her............This is your new OC......

It depends if he got any action once he was in bed with her.

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For those that don't click the link.............. A DUI in 2006 and then in 2009, climbed in the window of a woman's apartment, stripped down to his underwear and crawled into bed with her............This is your new OC.

Did he make the bed when he left?

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Russ McNamara ‏@RussMcNamara 8m8 minutes ago

Talking with the media, Joe Lombardi says that if he could go back & change one thing, it'd be the Fullback Dive - He'd do that a lot more.

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In celebration of Jim Bob's promotion, former Lions coach Joe Cullen is going to the Wendy's drive thru and buying dinner for the team......

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I just watched Caldwell's press conference post firings and someone asked if he was told to make these moves and he said no.

Given the way this went down, I don't think it was Caldwell's choice.

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Hot diggity dog. That made my day.

Edit:

Jim Caldwell: No changes coming for reeling Detroit Lions

PS: I know this has already been mentioned, but the fact that this happened just hours after Caldwell expressed support for Lombardi, is a huge slap in Caldwell's face.

Did Mayhew order it, to get out in front of the finger-pointing war, or did Mrs. Ford? Interesting to see how this one plays out.

Either reading is a loser for Mayhew: Either he is so out of touch with his coach that Caldwell could go out there and end up embarrassing himself with statements were going to look stupid 3 hrs later, or even worse and probably more likely, the owner heard Caldwell and blew a fuse over the acceptance of the losing status quo - in which case Mayhew has just been knee-capped for all intents and purposes.

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Either reading is a loser for Mayhew: Either he is so out of touch with his coach that Caldwell could go out there and end up embarrassing himself with statements were going to look stupid 3 hrs later, or even worse and probably more likely, the owner heard Caldwell and blew a fuse over the acceptance of the losing status quo - in which case Mayhew has just been knee-capped for all intents and purposes.

I think that's right. Mayhew's feeling the burn. Good.

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or even worse and probably more likely, the owner heard Caldwell and blew a fuse over the acceptance of the losing status quo - in which case Mayhew has just been knee-capped for all intents and purposes.

Please, do you really think Estelle Getty is that engaged with the team? The more likely scenario is that Lombardi drank the last of her Ovaltine in the office lunch room.

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Can you just imagine a 90 year old woman watching that 3rd and 13 play and saying WHAT THE (BLEEP) ARE THEY DOING?

You're assuming she knows what "3rd and 13" means.

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Please, do you really think Estelle Getty is that engaged with the team? The more likely scenario is that Lombardi drank the last of her Ovaltine in the office lunch room.

She's been playing at it so who knows?

But one thing that struck me the other day with regard to the Lions front office's long sorry hiring history, is that maybe they are too close to FoMoCo and that proximity provides the wrong hiring model for a sports team. In industry, jobs are designed so that most people with the typical qualifications can do them well enough. It would be impossible to run an industrial business successfully if everyone you hired had to be one of the very best of their breed. So in most industrial fields, and certainly the one FoMoCo is in, you don' have to fire people for not being exceptional, and when things do go south enough that you have to fire someone, it is the normal expectation that the next person 'in line' so to speak, is competent to do the job.

In pro sports management, all that is all exactly wrong. If you are going to win, finding one of the very few finest people in the field is exactly the *minimum* requirement for the coach and gm spots - and there is no reason at all to ever think the next guy 'in-line' is the guy that is going to be able to do the job if the present guy can't. So maybe 'Ford Culture' (thinking here about WCF Jr mostly - not that he is relevant in this particular case but looking at the history) and whatever wisdom and experience pervades the Lions from the family overlap from the Ford industrial management culture over the decades, has been perfectly wrong for the Lions.

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She's been playing at it so who knows?

But one thing that struck me the other day with regard to the Lions front office's long sorry hiring history, is that maybe they are too close to FoMoCo and that proximity provides the wrong hiring model for a sports team. In industry, jobs are designed so that most people with the typical qualifications can do them well enough. It would be impossible to run an industrial business successfully if everyone you hired had to be one of the very best of their breed. So in most industrial fields, and certainly the one FoMoCo is in, you don' have to fire people for not being exceptional, and when things do go south enough that you have to fire someone, it is the normal expectation that the next person 'in line' so to speak, is competent to do the job.

In pro sports management, all that is all exactly wrong. If you are going to win, finding one of the very few finest people in the field is exactly the *minimum* requirement for the coach and gm spots - and there is no reason at all to ever think the next guy 'in-line' is the guy that is going to be able to do the job if the present guy can't. So maybe 'Ford Culture' (thinking here about WCF Jr mostly - not that he is relevant in this particular case but looking at the history) and whatever wisdom and experience pervades the Lions from the family overlap from the Ford industrial management culture over the decades, has been perfectly wrong for the Lions.

I wonder about that too. There is something about a good head coach, especially in a franchise with basically no institutional history of excellence, that isn't equivalent to the CEOs of most major corporations.

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Caldwell said there was no consultation with the ownership before they fired this group of assistants.

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