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I think it's already nailed shut and underground. They just haven't covered it yet. I don't blame this on him anyway. Eddie Bajek pointed out that Rondon was also one of the few players sent back to the Venezuelan League early in his development stateside. Maybe, he's just fat and lazy.

You'd think he'd fit right in in America.

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A guy who can throw 100 will get opportunities, probably several more. He could be in Triple A for the next 8 years in 5 different organizations. "We can fix him." I.e. nobody else could, but we can. It's hubris, like when Terry Ryan signed "third baseman" Eric Munson. "Gardy and his staff will work with him."

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A guy who can throw 100 will get opportunities, probably several more. He could be in Triple A for the next 8 years in 5 different organizations. "We can fix him." I.e. nobody else could, but we can. It's hubris, like when Terry Ryan signed "third baseman" Eric Munson. "Gardy and his staff will work with him."

the Tigers are in control on this one though. He will only have 2 yrs service time and I believe they still hold at least 2 options on him. Unless someone is willing to give us something for him, he is going to have to toe the Tigers' line for at least a couple more years if he wants to play at all.

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the Tigers are in control on this one though. He will only have 2 yrs service time and I believe they still hold at least 2 options on him. Unless someone is willing to give us something for him, he is going to have to toe the Tigers' line for at least a couple more years if he wants to play at all.

Yes that's true, unless they just can his ***. They probably should, but they won't. Because he can throw 100, and "we can fix him".

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I don't want to make blanket assertions, because all individuals are different, but in Latin countries it is customary when you make a lot of money to take care of your family and extended family members. Not because they're slackers, but because he really is the only one with any money. It tends to be a cultural constant. That means two things: the money he has already made may well have been spread around and there's not a lot left. And, that there are a lot of people depending upon him to remain successful. A lot of people who he cares about are affected by his personal failure. That is great motivation to give a damn. This is not just about him. If the motivation of losing your career, and losing respect in the eyes of your family, is not enough to change the way he operates then nothing is.

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I recall a lot of discussion this Summer that MLB players were self starters and that a manager really wasn't that important.

Not all MLB players are. Some MLB managers handle a situation like this differently (i.e., telling the GM to ship the bum out.)

There are a lot of our guys who seem to be going through some situations this year that have exposed their character. I wonder if Jose Iglesias is one of them. I also suspect Anibal Sanchez to a lesser extent.

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I recall a lot of discussion this Summer that MLB players were self starters and that a manager really wasn't that important.

Not all MLB players are. Some MLB managers handle a situation like this differently (i.e., telling the GM to ship the bum out.)

There are a lot of our guys who seem to be going through some situations this year that have exposed their character. I wonder if Jose Iglesias is one of them. I also suspect Anibal Sanchez to a lesser extent.

Enough are that it isn't really a relevant argument, IMO. It'd be the equivalent or worrying about players getting food poisoning. I'll become concerned when it actually happens because it just isn't an issue that often.

I'd be curious as to why you think Sanchez has effort issues. The guy pitched all year with a sore shoulder.

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I will say it's entirely normal for players to occasionally "go through the motions". It's a long season and it's impossible to keep your head at 100% for every game. Especially when the team is playing poorly. But that's usually unintentional and a much different situation than Rondon.

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The irony of people here and on Twitter criticizing Rondon for effort level during work hours struck me yesterday...

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I recall a lot of discussion this Summer that MLB players were self starters and that a manager really wasn't that important.

Not all MLB players are. Some MLB managers handle a situation like this differently (i.e., telling the GM to ship the bum out.)

There are a lot of our guys who seem to be going through some situations this year that have exposed their character. I wonder if Jose Iglesias is one of them. I also suspect Anibal Sanchez to a lesser extent.

Don't ever change ROMAD.

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I recall a lot of discussion this Summer that MLB players were self starters and that a manager really wasn't that important.

Not all MLB players are. Some MLB managers handle a situation like this differently (i.e., telling the GM to ship the bum out.)

There are a lot of our guys who seem to be going through some situations this year that have exposed their character. I wonder if Jose Iglesias is one of them. I also suspect Anibal Sanchez to a lesser extent.

Which minor league manager was able to get Rondon to play with greater effort? From what I understand, this has been an ongoing problem with him.

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The irony of people here and on Twitter criticizing Rondon for effort level during work hours struck me yesterday...

I thought it was the Tigers who criticized him?

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Which minor league manager was able to get Rondon to play with greater effort? From what I understand, this has been an ongoing problem with him.

Coach killers are best spotted by experienced coaches who determine how to eradicate the infestation.

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Coach killers are best spotted by experienced coaches who determine how to eradicate the infestation.

Jim Leyland had him in 2013. He is also still employed by the club.

Larry Parrish was his manager in Toledo this season. He's managed forever, including in the majors.

Phil Nevin had a few seasons of managing under his belt before being his manager in Toledo in 2012-2013.

Cris Cron managed him in Erie in 2012. He began his managerial career in 1995 with no breaks before Erie.

Dave Huppert managed him in Lakeland in 2010 & 2012. That was his 24th season of managing.

Ernie Young managed him in 2011 in West Michigan. That was Young's 3rd season of managing.

So, given that Rondon has had a mix of veteran and less experienced managers in his playing career, what can we make of his being sent home? Oh, that's right, its all Ausmus' fault.

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Coach killers are best spotted by experienced coaches who determine how to eradicate the infestation.

So your premise is Rondon hasn't played for experienced managers?

What is your point other than your generic #managersmatter dialogue?

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So your premise is Rondon hasn't played for experienced managers?

What is your point other than your generic #managersmatter dialogue?

You know, when you think about it, Leyland was pretty overrated as a manager. He couldn't light a fire under Dmitri Young's *** during the playoff run of 2006. Couldn't keep Young away from the bottle. Couldn't convince Young to get into shape. Couldn't convince Young to play 3B. Young's laziness should fall squarely on Leyland just as much as Rondon's laziness should fall on Ausmus.

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You know, when you think about it, Leyland was pretty overrated as a manager. He couldn't light a fire under Dmitri Young's *** during the playoff run of 2006. Couldn't keep Young away from the bottle. Couldn't convince Young to get into shape. Couldn't convince Young to play 3B. Young's laziness should fall squarely on Leyland just as much as Rondon's laziness should fall on Ausmus.

I'll leave this stand as evidence of Leyland's appropriate handling of the situation with Young.

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I'll leave this stand as evidence of Leyland's appropriate handling of the situation with Young.

Are you kidding me? Leyland couldn't take a 32 year old player with multiple .800+ OPS seasons and get that player to buy into a (finally) winning culture?

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The bottom line is Young had one of his worst seasons under Leyland.

IIRC he was also diagnosed with Diabetes by the end of that season as well.

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IIRC he was also diagnosed with Diabetes by the end of that season as well.

I know. I was making a simplistic response to something that sounded like a simplistic theory.

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The bottom line is Young had one of his worst seasons under Leyland.

No, the bottom line is that Young owes the Tigers $8 million and he should be sent to collections. Or he stole $8 million and should be sent to jail. Either way, he owes the Tigers money and we should be aiming to collect.

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