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Cross Bryan Holiday off your list, as he broke his thumb in a collision at the plate tonight. Kind of feel bad for him as he was for sure going to be called up.

The only person on my wish list is Michael Fulmer. He shouldn't even be at AA anymore. Mid/upper 90s with a slider and change. Really can't wait to see him pitch. He's probably #3 between the 3 new pitchers but he's destroying AA. One scout said he's the first player that comes to mind as being too good for that league.

I would also love to see Hessman get the call. HR champ, about to retire. Give him one last cup of coffee before he retires to being a coach.

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They're almost gonna have to make a trade for a catcher. They really don't have anyone else to call up. They can pick someone off the scrap heap by the 31st. It'll probably happen tomorrow.

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Cross Bryan Holiday off your list, as he broke his thumb in a collision at the plate tonight. Kind of feel bad for him as he was for sure going to be called up.

The only person on my wish list is Michael Fulmer. He shouldn't even be at AA anymore. Mid/upper 90s with a slider and change. Really can't wait to see him pitch. He's probably #3 between the 3 new pitchers but he's destroying AA. One scout said he's the first player that comes to mind as being too good for that league.

I would also love to see Hessman get the call. HR champ, about to retire. Give him one last cup of coffee before he retires to being a coach.

Problem for Hessman is that Miggy is not going to want to take a single AB off if he still has shot at qualifying for the Batting Championship - so that leaves only DH against LH starters - since you don't want to take the one decent LH bat we do have out of the line-up against most RH pitchers. That's not going to be many appearances at this point, but I agree, letting him retire off the big league roster would be a classy gesture - I think.

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Cross Bryan Holiday off your list, as he broke his thumb in a collision at the plate tonight. Kind of feel bad for him as he was for sure going to be called up.

The only person on my wish list is Michael Fulmer. He shouldn't even be at AA anymore. Mid/upper 90s with a slider and change. Really can't wait to see him pitch. He's probably #3 between the 3 new pitchers but he's destroying AA. One scout said he's the first player that comes to mind as being too good for that league.

I would also love to see Hessman get the call. HR champ, about to retire. Give him one last cup of coffee before he retires to being a coach.

Typically players who get called up are already on the 40 man. Hessman and Fullmer are not, are they? Sorry. We won't be seeing Hessman. You'd better see him down here. Our call ups will consist of guys on the roster like Greene or Kroll or "No Win" Ryan, unfortunately. Not too impressive, but that's what we got. Having a third catcher is not a requirement.

The September roster expansion concept is bizarre and needs to be done away with. It happens in no other sport that I'm aware of.

Edited by Chili Mac Davis

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Typically players who get called up are already on the 40 man. Hessman and Fullmer are not, are they? Sorry. We won't be seeing Hessman. You'd better see him down here. Our call ups will consist of guys on the roster like Greene or Kroll or "No Win" Ryan, unfortunately. Not too impressive, but that's what we got. Having a third catcher is not a requirement.

The September roster expansion concept is bizarre and needs to be done away with. It happens in no other sport that I'm aware of.

Yes - valid points about the roster, but I thought we were only at 38 right now. Did the last two get filled?

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Right now there is only 1 spot open on the 40 man, which will probably be Lobstein once he is activated from the 60 day DL.

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How long is Holaday out for? They could bring Manny Pina up just to have a 3rd C. With Avila on board as one of the 2 Cs, I would think the Tigers will almost have to have a 3rd C on hand in the event McCann gets hurt. Pina is nothing at all to get excited about, but he plays the position. Or they could make Ausmus a player/manager.

Fulmer has service time considerations and options to take into effect. He got beat up a little bit the other day, didn't go more than 4 IP. I know its only one game, a fluke game. When I saw the box score on my phone, I audibly groaned and 8 year old didn't understand why I was upset about the Erie score. Kids.....

Josh Zeid and Marc Krauss are probably candidates to be dumped off of the 40 man in the event that the Tigers need a spot. That would likely be needed for a 3rd C.

It'll be interesting to see what they do about call ups. They haven't crowded the clubhouse the past few seasons.

I think I'd bring up Lobstein (no brainer), Greene, Krol, Ryan, VerHagen, Valdez, and Ferrell for the pitching staff. That's basically all of the pitchers minus Zeid. Might as well bring them all up and see what happens, see if anyone can gain traction for next season.

As for position players, Pina (or another 3rd C), Machado, Fields and Bernard. I would like to see what Bernard can do in the OF. Machado is just another IF to have on the bench along with Romine. I don't know if he's any more than a backup IF in the future, but there's nothing wrong with that.

Edit to add: Good grief, I forgot about Hessman! Hessman gets the call up as well. But now I've got 41 guys on the 40 man. So Ferrell gets bumped off. Sorry, dude.

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Problem for Hessman is that Miggy is not going to want to take a single AB off if he still has shot at qualifying for the Batting Championship - so that leaves only DH against LH starters - since you don't want to take the one decent LH bat we do have out of the line-up against most RH pitchers. That's not going to be many appearances at this point, but I agree, letting him retire off the big league roster would be a classy gesture - I think.

Hessman is as much (if not more) a 3b as a 1b (actually Many more 3b games than 1b in his career), so that particular aspect should not be a problem.

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They're almost gonna have to make a trade for a catcher. They really don't have anyone else to call up. They can pick someone off the scrap heap by the 31st. It'll probably happen tomorrow.

It's not like it matters a whole lot either way.

What does the 31st have to do with anything?

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I enjoyed watching Manny Pina catch this spring. Anything he gives offensively would be a bonus if he were called up.

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How long is Holaday out for? They could bring Manny Pina up just to have a 3rd C. With Avila on board as one of the 2 Cs, I would think the Tigers will almost have to have a 3rd C on hand in the event McCann gets hurt.

I guess I don't understand why having a 3rd catcher is a necessity on September 5 but isn't on August 15th.

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I guess I don't understand why having a 3rd catcher is a necessity on September 5 but isn't on August 15th.

That's what I was wondering too, I've seen a few people on twitter talk about the need for a 3rd catcher as well. I don't get it.

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I guess I don't understand why having a 3rd catcher is a necessity on September 5 but isn't on August 15th.

I don't know. It just seems like one of those roster moves that always happens so it is assumed that it needs to be done. You're correct, it doesn't have to happen.

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It's not like it matters a whole lot either way.

What does the 31st have to do with anything?

Need to make sure he's playoff eligible.

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The September roster expansion concept is bizarre and needs to be done away with. It happens in no other sport that I'm aware of.

Yeah, it is vexing. The different rules with respect to roster size makes no sense whatsoever. I don't know what it could equate to. Does the NFL still have the rule about not being able to use the 3rd QB until the last quarter, or some bizarre thing like that? Or the different number of players on ice during OT of an NHL game? I guess it is probably more odd than those, I don't know.

I know that there has been some small talk about amending the rule to only allowing 25 players to be active per game after roster expansion, but knows if that will ever happen.

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Hessman is as much (if not more) a 3b as a 1b (actually Many more 3b games than 1b in his career), so that particular aspect should not be a problem.

Since the odds are getting better by the minute that they are out of it, I suppose it probably won't matter, but I don't think the Tigers were ever too high on Mike's 3rd base play. If they don't want to see Nick get all the reps they might also want to be looking at Marte. Of course there often isn't a lot of playing time for a call up so that is nothing different.

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Problem for Hessman is that Miggy is not going to want to take a single AB off if he still has shot at qualifying for the Batting Championship - so that leaves only DH against LH starters - since you don't want to take the one decent LH bat we do have out of the line-up against most RH pitchers. That's not going to be many appearances at this point, but I agree, letting him retire off the big league roster would be a classy gesture - I think.

Hessman can get some pinch hit at bats late in a game.

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Here are the call-ups

Pitchers

Michael Fulmer (Gorzelanny released)

Shane Greene

Guido Knudson (Feliz released)

Ian Krol

Drew VerHagen

Josh Zeid

Position Players

C Bryan Holaday (around Sept 15th)

INF Dixon Machado

OF Wynton Bernard (mostly for pinch running)

OF Steven Moya

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That's what I was wondering too, I've seen a few people on twitter talk about the need for a 3rd catcher as well. I don't get it.

Having a third catcher gives the manager more flexibility in the late innings to pinch-run or pinch-hit. Why would the Tigers play at a competitive disadvantage when their opponents will be carrying extra players including a third catcher?......Holaday will go on the 60-day DL which will open up another spot on the 40-man roster.

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Having or not having Holaday will not create or eliminate a significant competitive advantage.

He isn't that good a player in the first place and the likelihood that having a 3rd catcher on the roster would open up a strategic opportunity that is both significant and wouldn't accessible otherwise is really small.

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I think Fulmer is getting called up within the next week, actually.

They may not want to start the clock on Fulmer this year by adding him to the 40-man roster.

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That written, if having Holaday or another 3rd catcher on the roster is better than the next best alternative, great - add them.

I am just expressing the idea the guy brought up in the hypothetical doesn't have to be a catcher.

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Having or not having Holaday will not create or eliminate a significant competitive advantage.

He isn't that good a player in the first place and the likelihood that having a 3rd catcher on the roster would open up a strategic opportunity that is both significant and wouldn't accessible otherwise is really small.

It wouldn't matter for most games but it could in a couple if the manager had already taken the starter out of the game. The manager wouldn't be able to replace the other catcher for strategic purposes if they didn't have the third catcher. If you can increase your roster size at any position why wouldn't you do it? You never know when that extra player may be needed. Not only should they have a third catcher but fast players to pinch run, defensive specialists, power hitter coming off the bench....

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Given typical roster construction, it just doesn't happen often enough to worry about April 1 - September 1 or the play-offs, so it seems unlikely to suddenly matter (only) in September.

Besides, I can come up with a scenario where adding a pinch runner or a defensive specialist or a guy who lay down a bunt really well could matter in a game or two as well. The choice is a 3rd catcher or another player.

You add the guys you think add the most to your team. If one is a 3rd catcher, great. If not, no big deal.

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