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No MKG for Charlotte. He really locked down Jackson in the second half last meeting. Kemba is back though. Always tough Big Al down low against Andre. Joel should get some run against guys like this... Pekovic, Gortat, Jefferson, etc. Really hope Anthony returns next season.

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Is this the game that got picked up by ESPN?

No, that is the Celtic game. Which kinda screws you probably since you could have watched it anyway.

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No Zeller or MKG. I know it's away and on the back to back, but Im real surprised Charlotte is a 5.5 point favorite

Bookies know their stuff, though.

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Surprising. I know Monroe is out and Jackson is sick... But Charlotte has injuries too and I don't think they're that great lol

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Just going to toss this out there, but is SVG getting out coached once in while? How did we lose to Philly and beat one of the good teams the night before or something. Can't remember the team. Beat the Hawks, get blown out the next night. I realize injuries played a part in this loss. I don't see how we can be such an up and down team. He has to adjust to the competition. I know he made some great adjustments a couple times at halftime, but can't figure out why this team is so inconsistent.

edit...he's inconsistent as a GM, imo. No big blunders though.

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Watched this game, nobody that mattered came to play. When he wasn't fouling guys Drummond could hardly even catch the ball, KCP was invisible except when he was missing shots, Jackson was okay from what I saw but like 0-7 when I wasn't watching and couldn't stay in the game for more than 5 minutes at a time.

But this was an important loss, we are now 4 losses ahead of Charlotte so very little chance of falling another position in the draft now.

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Just going to toss this out there, but is SVG getting out coached once in while? How did we lose to Philly and beat one of the good teams the night before or something. Can't remember the team. Beat the Hawks, get blown out the next night. I realize injuries played a part in this loss. I don't see how we can be such an up and down team. He has to adjust to the competition. I know he made some great adjustments a couple times at halftime, but can't figure out why this team is so inconsistent.

edit...he's inconsistent as a GM, imo. No big blunders though.

Bad/young teams will always be inconsistent no matter what a coach does and the Pistons are plenty of both.

Charlotte had plenty of problems as well. A few guys out, Jefferson had his knee drained in the morning and could barely move out there. It isn't so much losing to Charlotte that is a problem, it's how they lost. The total lack of effort and lethargic play is the big issue and SVG ripped them all after the game. Pointing out that nobody on the team is even in the top 50-60 of minutes played this year so fatigue shouldn't be the problem.

And don't read too much into the Hawks win, they have shut it down for the year. Not one starter played over 24 minutes. In the 4th quarter with the game still undecided, the starts never came back in.

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Just going to toss this out there, but is SVG getting out coached once in while? How did we lose to Philly and beat one of the good teams the night before or something. Can't remember the team. Beat the Hawks, get blown out the next night. I realize injuries played a part in this loss. I don't see how we can be such an up and down team. He has to adjust to the competition. I know he made some great adjustments a couple times at halftime, but can't figure out why this team is so inconsistent.

edit...he's inconsistent as a GM, imo. No big blunders though.

Losing to a team like Philly, a team built to tank, is definitely hard to stomach. However, Phill also beat ATL and WAS--two teams that are quite a bit better than us--going back to the end of March. Noel has been one of the best players in the EC over the past month and the return of JRich has made their lineup a little better for sure. Throw in the cheap pickup of former lottery pick Robinson and they've become a better team over the past several weeks. I saw them take OKC--a WC playoff team with an MVP candidate--into overtime and they took the Cavs down to the wire just days ago. Is Philly a good team? No, but neither is Detroit.

Reasons why the Pistons have been an up and down team this year:

--Massive changes in personnel mean that players aren't used to playing with one another. The team broke camp with Smith, Monroe and Jennings as starters and Singler/DJ/JJ as the 6th/7th/8th man--six of our nine top rotation players haven't been part of the mix, collectively, since St. Patty's Day and all but Monroe have been gone since late Feb. Prince, Tolliver, JLIII, Dinwiddie and Jackson are five players that were incorporated into the mix after training camp (Dinwiddie was pretty much just a semi-active spectator, as I understand it). I'm not sure what coach has ever lead a team into the playoffs under this type of player exchange, maybe the 96-97 Suns team that started 0-13 that shipped out Horry, Cassell, A.C. Green and Finley and Joe Kleine in exchange for Kidd, Ceballos, Rumeal Robinson, Tony Dumas and Loren Meyer in two separate trades in a span of two weeks. 23 players logged time in a Suns uniform that season. Of note, Cotton Fitzsimmons started that season 0-8 and was replaced by Danny Ainge who went 40-34.

--Just a guess, but it is probably easier to make the playoffs with three HOF-caliber point guards (Johnson, Kidd and Nash) and two AS-caliber forwards (Ceballos/Manning) than it is with our current Pistons squad. How many teams in the NBA would Tolliver and Butler/Prince start on? , maybe six between them both? Would KCP be a starter right now on any playoff team? Our roster is talent-poor, which is the perfect storm of bad prior team chemistry and an injury to Jennings which put a series of lottery-friendly moves into action.

--You have to remember how young this team is. Drummond is 21 and KCP is 22--there are rookies in the L older than these two. Dinwiddie (21) is a rookie coming off an ACL surgery, which usually takes 18 months to get completely right from unless you are a superhuman-type like Adrian Peterson. Jackson is still only 24 as well, and like Jennings before him is just starting to come into his own. Compare each of their stats as Pistons and you will see how competitive their profiles are. The rest of the roster are either placeholders and/or role players.

--After the deadline moves, one could argue that the Pistons were a team designed to make the lottery. SVG knew he would have to make decisions based on his keepers going into next year, which are arguably; Drummond, KCP, Jackson, Meeks, Dinwiddie, Tolliver, Jennings and probably Anthony. We can probably assume Martin will be cut and Butler's option will not be picked up. Butler could be brought back much cheaper on a one-year deal, though. At minimum, SVG knows he needs to sign a starting forward via FA and draft a rotation forward with his lottery pick. If he gets lucky with the 2nd rounder and lands a rotation player on the cheap, then that is obviously a very cap-friendly thing to do.

SVG's moves look inconsistent on the surface, and maybe they could be, but this was definitely a team that needed to be torn down and built back up again--and it looks like that is exactly what he is doing. The pieces he is building around are 21, 21, 22 and 24 years-old and all have OK-to-strong upside. Will Meeks be moved? If not, then he's being counted on to revert back to a 38-40% 3pt shooter. Add a veteran forward with AS upside and a lottery pick forward that can be inserted into the rotation, and all of a sudden the Pistons have a real rotation for the first time in what seems like years.

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