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I posted this in the NBA thread but I think its interest and should be repeated.

Two of the three players who get blamed for bad defense, Monroe and Drummond, actually show pretty good according to defensive real plus minus (DRPM).

KCP, not so much.

Nastradamus made a post where he added the ranks together of Golden States top 5 players and he got 115. The Pistons top two add up to 118. And neither one of them have a future with the franchise most likely.

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[TR]

[TD]RK[/TD]

[TD]NAME[/TD]

[TD]TEAM[/TD]

[TD]ORPM[/TD]

[TD]DRPM[/TD]

[TD]RPM[/TD]

[TD]WAR[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]57[/TD]

[TD]Greg Monroe[/TD]

[TD]DET[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.67[/TD]

[TD=align: right]1.89[/TD]

[TD=align: right]2.56[/TD]

[TD=align: right]5.93[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]61[/TD]

[TD]Brandon Jennings[/TD]

[TD]DET[/TD]

[TD=align: right]3.53[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.22[/TD]

[TD=align: right]2.31[/TD]

[TD=align: right]3.41[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]100[/TD]

[TD]Andre Drummond[/TD]

[TD]DET[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.52[/TD]

[TD=align: right]1.49[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.97[/TD]

[TD=align: right]4.05[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]122[/TD]

[TD]Anthony Tolliver[/TD]

[TD]DET/PHX[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.82[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.32[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.5[/TD]

[TD=align: right]1.74[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]127[/TD]

[TD]Joel Anthony[/TD]

[TD]DET[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.5[/TD]

[TD=align: right]1.93[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.43[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.37[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]153[/TD]

[TD]Kentavious Caldwell-Pope[/TD]

[TD]DET[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.41[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.52[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.11[/TD]

[TD=align: right]2.81[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]221[/TD]

[TD]Reggie Jackson[/TD]

[TD]DET/OKC[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.4[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.48[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.08[/TD]

[TD=align: right]1.37[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]255[/TD]

[TD]Shawne Williams[/TD]

[TD]DET/MIA[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.27[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.26[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.53[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.48[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]281[/TD]

[TD]Cartier Martin[/TD]

[TD]DET[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.63[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.15[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.78[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.07[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]316[/TD]

[TD]Kyle Singler[/TD]

[TD]DET/OKC[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.55[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.77[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-2.32[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.03[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]327[/TD]

[TD]Josh Smith[/TD]

[TD]DET/HOU[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-3.37[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.94[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-2.43[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.1[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]336[/TD]

[TD]John Lucas III[/TD]

[TD]DET[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.63[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.92[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-2.55[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.02[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]337[/TD]

[TD]D.J. Augustin[/TD]

[TD]DET/OKC[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.16[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-2.71[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-2.55[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.2[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]346[/TD]

[TD]Jodie Meeks[/TD]

[TD]DET[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.13[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-2.58[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-2.71[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.24[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]361[/TD]

[TD]Caron Butler[/TD]

[TD]DET[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-3.48[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.64[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-2.84[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.38[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=align: right]366[/TD]

[TD]Spencer Dinwiddie[/TD]

[TD]DET[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.44[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-1.41[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-2.85[/TD]

[TD=align: right]-0.1[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

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I was a big supporter of Monroe and still feel he is a really good player. But i do feel better if we lose him to FA after watching the team play without him. Feel better about RJ too. I need to stop judging on SSS.

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Kcp has been awful on defense, imo. He gets blown past more than anyone on the team other than jennings.

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Just stumbled onto the box score in the 3rd--is Lowry hurt or something? Thought he would really test Jackson tonight, but our PG had like 16/7/4 with no TO and 4-4 on FTs (He can do it, Del :).

Hansbrough seemed like a good fit in Indy at first, was shocked when it didn't work out for him there. Think he's a fit?

I love that Anthony is getting some run, hope it is an evaluation and not being played out of desperation.

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KCP and Reggie playing very well. Drummond, KCP and Reggie---not a bad core.

It will be interesting to see if Reggie can keep it going. The stan effect on PGs may just take a month of games to get the rhythm. Jennings was playing his best pro ball, and now Jackson has been in good control for about 2 weeks now.

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Floor is much more spaced without Monroe. Good player but not a fit. I'm officially at peace... Let him walk

Agreed. These stretch of games without him has made it even more clear, Monroe is a fine player, but a fit for the Pistons.

Dinwiddie with the bucket to end the quarter!

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Just stumbled onto the box score in the 3rd--is Lowry hurt or something? Thought he would really test Jackson tonight, but our PG had like 16/7/4 with no TO and 4-4 on FTs (He can do it, Del :).

Hansbrough seemed like a good fit in Indy at first, was shocked when it didn't work out for him there. Think he's a fit?

I love that Anthony is getting some run, hope it is an evaluation and not being played out of desperation.

Even if Lowry was playing, not sure how he would test him. Lowry makes Jackson look like a competent defender.

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Jackson/KCP backcourt has a lot of potential. Throw Drummond in the middle and add 2 shooters and you will have something.

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Jackson/KCP backcourt has a lot of potential. Throw Drummond in the middle and add 2 shooters and you will have something.

8th seed? I thought we wanted to win titles.

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Jackson is a moron. Don't foul the three point shooter when he is up in the air and off balance. What an idiot.

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Depends on the quality of shooters. If Monroe walks they can add one good one and will still have space for another.

Are you denying that this core plus a few guys is solid?

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Depends on the quality of shooters. If Monroe walks they can add one good one and will still have space for another.

Are you denying that this core plus a few guys is solid?

I'm the biggest KCP slappy on this board. And I like Andre well enough.

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