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Anthrax guitarist Scott Ian shared a bit of a shocker recently, confirming a rumor that metal giants Metallica wanted to fire drummer Lars Ulrich back in 1986.

The story was initially unveiled in 2009 by Dave Mustaine, who told Rolling Stone that Ian revealed the group's plans to him back in the day.

It was the band's final tour with bassist Cliff Burton, and James Hetfield, Kirk Hammett, as well as Burton allegedly agreed that Lars should get the boot.

"The story was that they had made a plan that they were gonna make a change and get a new drummer," Scott told 94.3 KILO. "We were all kind of blown away by that, because it was the four of them. It was just, like, 'Wow! Really?' And they were, like, 'Yeah. When we finish this tour, we're gonna find a new drummer.'

"What could I do? Just as a guy who was friends with all of them, you feel, 'That's a bummer for Lars. That sucks.' And at the same time, you hope that your friends can continue on and do what they wanna do with themselves.

"Obviously, history turned out differently for Metallica and they went on to become, arguably, one of the biggest bands on the planet. So I'm just glad it all... obviously it all worked out for my friends. [it was a] horrible tragedy that Cliff was killed in that bus accident," the guitarist added (via Blabbermouth).

More at the link

Metallica Planned to Fire Lars Ulrich in 1986, Says Scott Ian | Music News @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

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You think Lars is the worst pro drummer? I always thought the drummer from Yes...Alan White had a bad reputation.

Usually, "worst drummers" are guys who get hooked on "the wrong kind" of drug for a percussionist. According to the late-Joe Strummer on the Westways to the World, DVD he said that Topper Headon's use of heroin was incompatible with his role as a drummer. Something that allowed Headon to maintain his precision and timing like speed or cocaine would have been a-ok for Strummer.

I guess, i'll take a look into the Lars bad drummer thing. Not everyone is Neil Peart.

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You think Lars is the worst pro drummer?

He has horrible meter. Watch a live video and hear him speed up and slow down. Watch him cut heads with Hetfield on the Black Tour. Hetfield outdrums him.

Last time I saw them live it became really irritating because the speed fluctuations in songs were more blatant than ever.

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He has horrible meter. Watch a live video and hear him speed up and slow down. Watch him cut heads with Hetfield on the Black Tour. Hetfield outdrums him.

Last time I saw them live it became really irritating because the speed fluctuations in songs were more blatant than ever.

I've not seen them in person which kind of surprises me because I like their music.

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I think Steven Adler is the worst pro drummer ever

or Meg White, but she did exactly what they needed.

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A friend is a local drummer of guys in their late 50's who often plays at a VFW North of town. He invites me out almost each time I see him. I'm considering calling the VFW and ask them to permanently bar me from the premises...I use the term "drummer" quite loosely.

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I still remember the first time I heard Metallica. It was on "Metal Shop" on WLLZ. It was like the first time I heard Nirvana. Something completely different than what was going on at the time.

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He has horrible meter. Watch a live video and hear him speed up and slow down. Watch him cut heads with Hetfield on the Black Tour. Hetfield outdrums him.

Last time I saw them live it became really irritating because the speed fluctuations in songs were more blatant than ever.

He's no Ringo.

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I read the blurb above about Stewart Copeland and had a moment to consider...some of the production on Ghost in the Machine is amazing. Copeland's having grown up in the Arab World might be a major factor in his style. Almost sounds like he's making a World Music record while Sting and Andy Summers are making a Jazz fusion/New Wave album.

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I've heard that Ringo was one of the best drummers.... once at a gathering a guy, who was a drummer, said Ringo, and I snickered, thinking he was joking, and he was dead serious.

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MegWhite.gif

I wish I could make that my desktop.....

one way that could be improved though...

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I've heard that Ringo was one of the best drummers.... once at a gathering a guy, who was a drummer, said Ringo, and I snickered, thinking he was joking, and he was dead serious.

Ringo wasn't huge on technique but he was a human metronome. I've also read where people have difficulty mimicking his fills because he is a left-handed drummer who plays right-handed.

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I wonder if boobs help give you time? Like a built in metronome. I'm gonna have to study this for a bit.

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There might be something to that..... sort of like counter weights? And then you get into a rhythm and once those start moving it's hard to stop.

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There might be something to that..... sort of like counter weights? And then you get into a rhythm and once those start moving it's hard to stop.

When I was in band (9th grade), our student conductor was rather well endowed. I was able to keep time well without looking at her hands.

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Ringo wasn't huge on technique but he was a human metronome. I've also read where people have difficulty mimicking his fills because he is a left-handed drummer who plays right-handed.

My drummer, who is excellent at copying Ringo, says that very thing.

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My drummer, who is excellent at copying Ringo, says that very thing.

I went to see 1964 awhile back and really started paying attention to Ringo's mannerisms while playing. I think that it would be difficult.

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I went to see 1964 awhile back and really started paying attention to Ringo's mannerisms while playing. I think that it would be difficult.

We don't do the "dress up and wig thing" , or the mannerisms. But we play virtually every song and no two shows are the same. Unless it's an "In it's entirety" album show.

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We don't do the "dress up and wig thing" , or the mannerisms. But we play virtually every song and no two shows are the same. Unless it's an "In it's entirety" album show.

That'd be cool too. These guys did everything. It was like being able to see them live, though a could keep of the voice were a little off.

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I gather this list could start arguments...this is at least a start

Top 10 BEST and WORST Drummers In Rock & Roll ~ He's A Whore

That list is a bit dated.

I would put Steven Adler and Tommy Lee on the top 10 list, these guys wrote too. Adler/Lee were the driving force's behind the two biggest bands of the 80's, listen to GNR without Adler, Matt Sorum could not keep up and their sound changed.

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That list is a bit dated.

I would put Steven Adler and Tommy Lee on the top 10 list, these guys wrote too. Adler/Lee were the driving force's behind the two biggest bands of the 80's, listen to GNR without Adler, Matt Sorum could not keep up and their sound changed.

Haha.... I feel completely the opposite, I listed Adler as worst, and I was tempted to mention Tommy Lee as well.

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