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Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 9m

Peavy is going to giants

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 19m

#SFGiants close to acquiring Peavy from #RedSox, sources tell @jonmorosi and me. Details still need to be worked out.

Guess the Giants aren't interested in making the playoffs.

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I think Moya is part of a package for a deadline trade. I won't be that disappointed. I'm not convinced that Moya will figure out the strike zone well enough to layoff the slider. I don't see Moya offering any more than a lot of HR and very low OBP.

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Guess the Giants aren't interested in making the playoffs.

Peavy may do OK in the NL.

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 28m

The Red Sox will get Giants prospects Edwin Escobar and Heath Hembree in the deal, pending approval.

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Yes, yes, yes. I like being attached to our guys, but that can be taken a little too far sometimes. Give a prospect 2 years in the majors and see if you feel the same way about him....most of the time they do what you'd expect, but very few realize the kind of upside attributed to them based on the misty musings of minor league mavens.

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Someone tell me about Willy Adames. What is it that everyone loves, his offense or defense? Looks like he's made 20 errors already this year, so I'm guessing it's not that. Offensively his stats seems modest/pedestrian. Curious why he gets such high praise.

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Moya is having his best season (by far) to date against the highest level of competition he's faced....I think that shows he's figuring the game out..at least to some etent.

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The last I checked, Adames had 13 doubles, and 12 triples before the all star break.

For an 18 year old infield prospect to put up those kinds of numbers in his first year at West Michigan is pretty damn exciting.

Cant really say much more about him, but im definitely on the band wagon.

another guy who is exciting, that I havnt heard as much about is West Michigan OF Wynton Bernard, imo.

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Someone tell me about Willy Adames. What is it that everyone loves, his offense or defense? Looks like he's made 20 errors already this year, so I'm guessing it's not that. Offensively his stats seems modest/pedestrian. Curious why he gets such high praise.

He's 18 years old and is a top 5 offensive middle infielder in a league where most players are in the early 20's. Barring injuries, he and Hill will likely end up top 100 prospects at some point.

If they ever pulled off a major deal, both of them would be included in the trade.

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We are in big trouble

Why? They have enough of a system to make trades like the Soria deal. They'll have some turnover in the next few years, and should lose a few FA's, but the cupboards are not bare. What really helps is finding a gem like JDM. I can envision him in LF, with Moya in RF for a while. They have enough pitching, and plenty of resources to make do if they lose Scherzer (and Porcello, perhaps). It's not easy to have a top system when the major league club is winning every year. If they were not winning, then they would need a top system.

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Someone tell me about Willy Adames. What is it that everyone loves, his offense or defense? Looks like he's made 20 errors already this year, so I'm guessing it's not that. Offensively his stats seems modest/pedestrian. Curious why he gets such high praise.

Bottom line, Adames has one of the two or three highest ceilings in the entire system. We had him #10 in the mid-season rankings, and I think we were a touch light. Above average raw, dramatically improved approach in a short time, feel to hit, strong arm, tools for the left side of the dirt, exciting player.

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Thanks for all the input. Sounds like a winner. I hope my question didn't come across negatively -- I just genuinely knew very little about him and couldn't tell what stood out from looking only at his numbers. Does he seem headed for Erie next year?

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Thanks for all the input. Sounds like a winner. I hope my question didn't come across negatively -- I just genuinely knew very little about him and couldn't tell what stood out from looking only at his numbers. Does he seem headed for Erie next year?

No, no, no. Lakeland would still be an aggressive assignment even with his tools and nice showing this year.

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I expect them to get a left handed reliever. Maybe Andrew Miller if Boston actually sells. They need extra depth in case Smyly needs to stay in the rotation in the playoffs and can't move to the bullpen.

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No, no, no. Lakeland would still be an aggressive assignment even with his tools and nice showing this year.

I love when we have micro sightings.

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I expect them to get a left handed reliever. Maybe Andrew Miller if Boston actually sells. They need extra depth in case Smyly needs to stay in the rotation in the playoffs and can't move to the bullpen.

I can see this with Moya going the other way.... probably would take a "C" minor league Pitcher also....

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another guy who is exciting, that I havnt heard as much about is West Michigan OF Wynton Bernard, imo.

I haven't heard much about him but I know he was the only player signed from the Tigers open tryouts this spring (out of a crowd of 100+). I was at the backfields for what I believe was his first scrimmage with the Tigers and he hit a HR in his first at bat. Not a bad way to start out. It looks like he's hitting real well in the MWL (and for a better average than in his stint in short season with the Padres org). I'm interested to see how he'd adapt to High-A.

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Why? They have enough of a system to make trades like the Soria deal. They'll have some turnover in the next few years, and should lose a few FA's, but the cupboards are not bare. What really helps is finding a gem like JDM. I can envision him in LF, with Moya in RF for a while. They have enough pitching, and plenty of resources to make do if they lose Scherzer (and Porcello, perhaps). It's not easy to have a top system when the major league club is winning every year. If they were not winning, then they would need a top system.

No, not trouble relating to trading him, trouble if he is the best in the system. I just don't get enthused about physical attributes in hitters. The minors are filled with guys that rate like Michael Jordan physically that never make it while the Rusty Staubs and Billy Butlers of the world hold down MLB starting jobs for years.

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Adames has a 791 OPS in West Michigan - through 94 games - as an 18 year old SS.

Castellanos had an 803 OPS in West Michigan as a 19 year old 3b.

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Adames has a 791 OPS in West Michigan - through 94 games - as an 18 year old SS.

Castellanos had an 803 OPS in West Michigan as a 19 year old 3b.

And WMI (and the league probably) has been a pitching park, historically. Very impressive.

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No, not trouble relating to trading him, trouble if he is the best in the system. I just don't get enthused about physical attributes in hitters. The minors are filled with guys that rate like Michael Jordan physically that never make it while the Rusty Staubs and Billy Butlers of the world hold down MLB starting jobs for years.

I'm guessing Moya can swing the bat faster and more consistently than the other Michael Jordans.

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It doesn't hurt to kick things around. It seems like the Tigers have a decent pipeline of middle infield talent. Maybe not all star quality throughout, but major league starter quality.

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No, not trouble relating to trading him, trouble if he is the best in the system. I just don't get enthused about physical attributes in hitters. The minors are filled with guys that rate like Michael Jordan physically that never make it while the Rusty Staubs and Billy Butlers of the world hold down MLB starting jobs for years.

The point I was making is that the Tigers system is down, but they are down for many reasons. Losing first round picks that were spent on FA's really hurt, so that's what they have to live with. The new CBA has changed the landscape for the Tigers. They made a living off of drafting low but spending more than most teams, which led to good players like Porcello falling into their lap. Also, every year it seems like they are trading away top prospects, which is thinning out the system further. In the next few years, though; it looks like they'll be able to make some strides, since they might gain multiple comp picks which will help rebuild the farm.

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