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Playoff Watch Thread: Extend The 22-Year Streak

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This has been a really fun year to watch the Wings. The young guys are something special. And it will only get better. Anthony Mantha just won the MVP in the QMJHL with 57 goals and 120 points in 57 games. Hes 6 foot 5 too! The young defensemen ripening in GR, Sproul, Ouellet and Marchenko, all have the skills to be top 4 D. Theres a slew of other guys that have NHL futures like Callahan and Ferraro. I see a core developing for another run of Cups.

The team right now can oust Pittsburgh in the first round.Boston will be a far more difficult task.

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This has been a really fun year to watch the Wings. The young guys are something special. And it will only get better. Anthony Mantha just won the MVP in the QMJHL with 57 goals and 120 points in 57 games. Hes 6 foot 5 too! The young defensemen ripening in GR, Sproul, Ouellet and Marchenko, all have the skills to be top 4 D. Theres a slew of other guys that have NHL futures like Callahan and Ferraro. I see a core developing for another run of Cups.

The team right now can oust Pittsburgh in the first round.Boston will be a far more difficult task.

I listen to games... and I would say yes and no... Young guys are exciting... but there have been a few games lost that you would have believed if the veterans were in the lineup wouldn't have slipped away.

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Key Games Saturday April 5

Philadelphia at Boston - Matinee game. Their drop has put another team into the playoff chase mix. They're 1 behind the Wings, 1 up on the Jackets and 3 up on the Leafs. They still have a bit of work to do.

Washington at NYI - This game starts at 5pm so should be over around the 1st intermission of the Wings game. If the Wings get 1 more tonight than the Caps do tonight, the Caps can't beat out Detroit.

Winnipeg at Toronto - The other Hockey Night in Canada game. If the Leafs lose in regulation and the Wings win, the Leafs can't beat out Detroit.

Detroit at Montreal - Everything points to a Habs victory. Habs have a hot offense, with Pacioretty getting 5 points last night. Price is in net tonight after sitting out last night. Gustavsson is in net for the Wings. I'd be happy with a point

New Jersey at Carolina - The Wings can't eliminate them tonight. 6 points back of Detroit with 5 to play but NJD would win the tiebreaker, so a dropped point at least tonight would be nice so that the Wings getting up to 92 points - a nice and tidy 2 wins in 5 games - would be enough.

Dallas at Tampa - Chances of the Wings passing the Bolts are remote, as Tampa is up by 5 points with both Detroit and TB having 5 games left to play. But Dallas is in playoff battle out West so could win tonight. If the Wings win and the Bolts lose in regulation, we can at least start the conversation about the Wings being in the mix for a 3rd place division finish

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Flyers lose the matinee to Boston 5-2. After 77 games:

- the Wings have 88 points with 32 ROWs

- the Flyers have 87 points with 36 ROWs

- the Jackets have 85 points with 34 ROWs

So assuming that the Wings aren't caught by Toronto, Washington or NJ, the Wings would need to finish ahead of Columbus AND/OR Philadelpia in order for Detroit to claim the 1st wildcard spot and avoid Boston until the 3rd round.

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I listen to games... and I would say yes and no... Young guys are exciting... but there have been a few games lost that you would have believed if the veterans were in the lineup wouldn't have slipped away.

Yes the young guys may have let slip some games the vets wouldnt have but thats what young guys do when they move into the NHL. Give them some experience and the good coaching Babcock and his staff provides and those mistakes disappear. What they do have is something that cant be coached, skill and creativity. Im bullish on the Red Wings future and I dont think its unrealistically so. There are more Cups coming with just a little luck.

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Red Wing magic numbers as of Saturday afternoon.

For playoff spot (need to finish ahead of all 5 teams below or replace with CBJ/Philly), over:

Ottawa - 1 point

Carolina - 2 points

Washington - 3 points

Toronto - 5 points (or 4 points if includes a ROW)

NJ - 5 points

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For 1st wildcard spot, need to finish ahead of 1 of the following 2 as well as all 5 of the above teams:

Columbus - 8 points

Philadelphia - 10 points

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Yes the young guys may have let slip some games the vets wouldnt have but thats what young guys do when they move into the NHL. Give them some experience and the good coaching Babcock and his staff provides and those mistakes disappear. What they do have is something that cant be coached, skill and creativity. Im bullish on the Red Wings future and I dont think its unrealistically so. There are more Cups coming with just a little luck.

Not only that but hopefully with a healthy Dats and Zets, added with a couple FA the team should be a lot better next year.

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Amazing that Washington can come out for such a big game and get outshot 17-8 by the Islanders in the 1st period. 1-0 NYI after 1.

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Caps headed to a shootout. Devils leading Carolina 1-0 after 1. Leafs leading Winnipeg 2-1 late in the 1st. Things could tighten a bit if all these results hold, including the Wings' deficit. Still a long way to go though except on Long Island.

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Caps win the shootout to move up to 83 points with 4 games to go. Wings, even if they beat the Habs tonight, will be a point shy of ensuring they can't be caught by Washington.

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Worst news of night is Jersey winning. Devils can still top out at 92 points. They're 4 back of the Wings with 4 to play but the Devils hold the tiebreaker. So it's conceivable - if highly unlikely - that the Wings could beat Buffalo and Carolina yet still miss out unless they get a point in either the Pittsburgh or St. Louis games.

Capitals won in a SO and can top out at 91 points. But one Wings win should be plenty to sink them, as I can't see winning their final 4 - they play St. Louis next.

Leafs losing in regulation is best news of the night. They can top out at 90 points and the Wings are guaranteed the tiebreaker edge. So 1 win will sink the Leafs from the Wings' perspective.

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Red Wing magic numbers as of Sunday morning. "Of available" is calculated by adding the points available for the Wings to earn (4 games remaining X 2) plus the points available for a chasing team to drop (games remaining x 2)

For playoff spot (need to finish ahead of all 4 teams below or replace with CBJ/Philly), over:

Ottawa - 1 point (of 16 available)

Toronto - 2 points (of 14 available)

Washington - 3 points (of 14 available)

NJ - 5 points (of 14 available)

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For 1st wildcard spot, need to finish ahead of 1 of the following 2 as well as all 4 of the above teams:

Columbus - 8 points (of 18 available)

Philadelphia - 10 points (of 18 available)

Edited by lordstanley

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Key Games Sunday April 6

NYI at Columbus - Jackets have a reasonably tough schedule going forward, so in case NJD wins out I like the current breathing room the Wings have of being 3 up on Columbus having played 1 extra game.

Buffalo at Philadelphia - Should be a gimme for the Flyers, but if they lose this some doubt will be begin to creep in

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Columbus beat NYI 4-0. Philly leads Buffalo 4-0 after 2 so will win.

The Wings are not home and dry. In the past 24 hours, the Wings lost in regulation while each of Washington, NJ, Columbus and Philly (pending) picked up 2 points. That's not a devastating blow, but it sure makes things a bit tighter.

And no, it will not take a complete collapse for the Wings to miss. 2W 2L would give them 92. That's not a collapse when you consider 3 of 4 are on the road and 2 are against division leaders. You can't imagine NJD winning 4 straight to finish at 92 with the tiebreaker win? Calgary, at Ottawa, NYI, Boston?

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Key Game Monday April 7

Calgary at NJD - Go Flames. That's all. If the Devils lose tonight, the Wings can clinch with wins Tuesday and Wednesday. If the Devils win, the Devils will be alive until at least their next game, Thursday.

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Devils and Flames scoreless after 2. Flames missed a breakaway with a minute to go in the 2nd. Wish Brodeur was in net rather than the mrore reliable Corey Schneider. The 3rd period would be a great time for Hudler to make us happy.

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4:32 to go to a Wings playoff spot if you ask me, if the Flames can hang on. Not officially. But I'd be pretty relaxed if the magic number gets down to 3 points with the Wings still having 4 games to play.

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What a crazy final minute. Never has a Flames-Devils almost given me a heart attack before. Flames win, Devils lose. Magic number is 3 points!!! Finally, I can taste it ...

Hudler stripped in embarassing fashion almost led to tying goal with 2 minutes to go. Wraparound with 3 seconds to go just slid by the far post.

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Did not play, playoff odds up 6.6 to 95.7%

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[TD="class: ar, colspan: 2, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: ac, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: al pr10"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: ac pl5 pr5 ll, colspan: 2, align: center"]In[/TD]
[TD="class: ac pl5 pr5 ll, colspan: 2, align: center"]No[/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="class: ar mbl, align: right"]72[/TD]
[TD="class: ar llr mal, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ll ar pl10, align: right"]5,043,707[/TD]
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[TR="class: team"]
[TD="class: pl5 ar, align: right"]90[/TD]
[TD="class: al"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar pl13, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: ar, colspan: 2, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: ac, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: al pr10"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar pl10 ll, align: right"]87.8[/TD]
[TD="class: pr5"]%[/TD]
[TD="class: ac pl5 pr5 ll, colspan: 2, align: center"]No[/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: ar mbl, align: right"]74[/TD]
[TD="class: ar llr mal, align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ll ar pl10, align: right"]201,874,673[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: team"]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar pl13, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar, colspan: 2, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: ac, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: al pr10"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: ar pl10 ll, align: right"]87.8[/TD]
[TD="class: pr5"][/TD]
[TD="class: ac pl5 pr5 ll, colspan: 2, align: center"]No[/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: ar mbl, align: right"]74[/TD]
[TD="class: ar llr mal, align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ll ar pl10, align: right"]23,442,969[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: team odd, bgcolor: #F2F4F2"]
[TD="class: pl5 ar, align: right"]89[/TD]
[TD="class: al"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar pl13, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar, colspan: 2, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: ac, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: al pr10"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: ar pl10 ll, align: right"]67.9[/TD]
[TD="class: pr5"][/TD]
[TD="class: ac pl5 pr5 ll, colspan: 2, align: center"]No[/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: ar mbl, align: right"]65[/TD]
[TD="class: ar llr mal, align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ll ar pl10, align: right"]48,470,150[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: team"]
[TD="class: pl5 ar, align: right"]88[/TD]
[TD="class: al"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar pl13, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar, colspan: 2, align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: ac, align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: al pr10"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar pl10 ll, align: right"]30.6[/TD]
[TD="class: pr5"][/TD]
[TD="class: ac pl5 pr5 ll, colspan: 2, align: center"]No[/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar mbl, align: right"]30[/TD]
[TD="class: ar llr mal, align: right"]50[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ll ar pl10, align: right"]37,718,099[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TR="class: h5"]
[TD="colspan: 7"][/TD]
[TD="class: ll, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: ll, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar mbl, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar llr mal, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ll, colspan: 2"][/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: ar pr5, colspan: 7, align: right"]Total:[/TD]
[TD="class: ar pl10 ll, align: right"]95.7[/TD]
[TD="class: pr5"]%[/TD]
[TD="class: ac pl5 pr5 ll, colspan: 2, align: center"]No[/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: ar ll mf, align: right"]57[/TD]
[TD="class: ar mbl, align: right"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: ar llr mal, align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar m, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ar ml, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: ll ar pl10, align: right"]1,618,048,760[/TD]
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Did not play, playoff odds up 6.6 to 95.7%

Tapatalk didn't know what to do with that table.

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As Shinma's chart shows, there is a reasonable chance (30%) that the Wings could make the playoffs even if they were to go pointless in their next 4 games. Would need Toronto to go no better than 2-1, Washington to go no better than 2-1-1 and NJ to go no better than 1-1-1.

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The wings will make the playoffs. Book it.

This could be a fun team to watch in the postseason. The first round will be tough, but with no reseeding, it gets easier if you can get past that.

With the kids playing well and Ericsson and Z possibly back mid first round, there is reason to hope for a surprising run.

That's a far cry from where they were at the halfway point.

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Key Games

Detroit at Buffalo - Can't take anything for granted. Just win.

Phoenix at Columbus - Jackets play back to back games against the two teams chasing the final Western Conference playoff spot. I think it is fairly important that the Wings get the 1st wildcard spot rather than the 2nd.

Toronto at Tampa Bay - No, I'm not tempted to cheer for the Leafs. The Leafs aren't officially eliminated and we're not catching Tampa. Besides, even if we were to catch Tampa, I'm not sure Montreal in the first round and likely Boston in the 2nd round is a better draw than Pittsburgh in the 1st round and the winner of NYR-Philadelphia in the 2nd round.

Philadelphia at Florida-Passing the Flyers is another option for ensuring the top wildcard spot. But as the Wings are 1 point behind the Flyers and 1 point ahead of Columbus, scenarios in which the Wings are passed by the Jackets but pass the Flyers instead are unlikely

Washington at St. Louis - This game starts an hour later than the Wings game. If the Wings beat Buffalo, we can watch the 3rd period of this game knowing that a Cap loss of any kind would officially eliminate the Caps as a threat to catch us

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