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On 10/27/2018 at 7:44 PM, mtutiger said:

Four armed police officers were shot in this imbroglio.

Let's stop acting like being armed is a silver bullet against someone willing to die for whatever misguided cause that compels them to shoot others.

I just want to highlight this one.

Four armed police officers, working in a major city, trained extensively specifically to confront armed suspects, and who were totally apprised of this situation and prepared to go in and deal with it, still were hit by the shooter.

Meanwhile, chickenhawk pro-gun people imagine that a single armed guard on premises, training uncertain, even while completely surprised by a guy coming in and shooting, would have shot the guy without anyone being killed and himself (or herself) being harmed.

Uh huh. Right.

How well did that strategy work at Parkland?

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Just now, tigerbomb13 said:

Trump’s America. Time to arm all the yoga studios. 

If all Yogis had guns, this never would have happened.  

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Maybe we need to try prayers and thoughts instead?  Clearly that's the only other option available.

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See, they should have had an armed guard on the premises who would have stopped the shooting in the first place, instead of relying on that loser cop who responded to the call and ended up getting killed. :tired: 

 

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Filling in the bingo card right now. 

Has anyone said “background checks and other gun restrictions wouldn’t have stopped this because he would have passed anyway” or the corallary of “he obtained the gun illegally so more restrictions wouldn’t have mattered.”

we are probably in store for a “see, it wasn’t even an AR-15”

 

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26 minutes ago, Shelton said:

Filling in the bingo card right now. 

Has anyone said “background checks and other gun restrictions wouldn’t have stopped this because he would have passed anyway” or the corallary of “he obtained the gun illegally so more restrictions wouldn’t have mattered.”

we are probably in store for a “see, it wasn’t even an AR-15”

 

Since it happened in California, they'll say gun control doesn't work. Outside of Chicago, this is the best place they could have happened. 

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3 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

America has not seen a mass shooting as bad as this since 12 days ago.

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1 hour ago, Shelton said:

Filling in the bingo card right now. 

Has anyone said “background checks and other gun restrictions wouldn’t have stopped this because he would have passed anyway” or the corallary of “he obtained the gun illegally so more restrictions wouldn’t have mattered.”

we are probably in store for a “see, it wasn’t even an AR-15”

The people who politicize the tragedy are shameful, and besides, it was probably a false flag operation anyway.

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Cost/freedom

I would be interested to hear if any of these parents think they've paid their fair share.

 

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14 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

The people who politicize the tragedy are shameful, and besides, it was probably a false flag operation anyway.

George Soros is at it again.  

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9 hours ago, Euphdude said:

This is a good chronological look at how the NRA evolved from an organization for gun enthusiasts into an extremist right-wing propaganda outlet.

How the N.R.A. Builds Loyalty and Fanaticism

What is very interesting is that the gun lobby changed their stance right around the time psychiatric community came up with the term ADHD.  Gun sales and Drug sales went up around the same time.    I just find that very interesting.   

I saw a graph that compared the rate of smoking (went up sharply after World War 1) and the rate of lung cancer and serious lung illness that showed up later at a rate that looked like a mirror.   

Find a graph of the amount of psych drugs being prescribed compared to the number of mass shootings (4 victims or more) and they'll look eerily similar.    These psych patients often easily get guns.     

Guess which industry has spent nearly 4 BILLION dollars in lobbying over the last 20 years?    Yep, Big Pharma.   

Most of these mass shooters were on some kind of psych drug.   Over 90% of school shooters are on them.    

Too many drugs and too many guns.  It's connected.  It's both things. They are a volatile mix.   Social Media is like a match to it.   BOOM!

Right now some lunatic, probably drugged up to the point he can't even realize what he's truly doing is saying  "That guy only got 12, I am gonna get 20........what's the record?"

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9 hours ago, pfife said:

Cost/freedom 

I would be interested to hear if any of these parents think they've paid their fair share.

 

I've posted about this before, but at least the cost for freedom argument is honest. If all pro gun people admitted they felt this was the cost of freedom, we could have honest conversations as a country instead of faking arguments about arming teachers or pretending mental health is why there are so many guns available.

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1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

What is very interesting is that the gun lobby changed their stance right around the time psychiatric community came up with the term ADHD.  Gun sales and Drug sales went up around the same time.    I just find that very interesting.   

I saw a graph that compared the rate of smoking (went up sharply after World War 1) and the rate of lung cancer and serious lung illness that showed up later at a rate that looked like a mirror.   

Find a graph of the amount of psych drugs being prescribed compared to the number of mass shootings (4 victims or more) and they'll look eerily similar.    These psych patients often easily get guns.     

Guess which industry has spent nearly 4 BILLION dollars in lobbying over the last 20 years?    Yep, Big Pharma.   

Most of these mass shooters were on some kind of psych drug.   Over 90% of school shooters are on them.    

Too many drugs and too many guns.  It's connected.  It's both things. They are a volatile mix.   Social Media is like a match to it.   BOOM!

Right now some lunatic, probably drugged up to the point he can't even realize what he's truly doing is saying  "That guy only got 12, I am gonna get 20........what's the record?"

Of course this is exactly the kind of thing the GOP Congress has required the CDC not to investigate.

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