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Who will be the next manager of the Tigers?

Who do you think the next Tiger Manager [b]will[/b] be?  

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  1. 1. Who do you think the next Tiger Manager [b]will[/b] be?

    • Brad Ausmus
      30
    • Lloyd McClendon
      28
    • Tom Brookens
      6
    • Torey Lovullo
      3
    • Gene Lamont
      7
    • Larry Parrish
      2
    • Manny Acta
      9
    • Dusty Baker
      3
    • Tony Pena
      2
    • Carlos Guillen
      0


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Are the Tigers even allowed to announce anything during the World Series? I was kind of under the impression that no major transactions are allowed to be announced while the World Series is underway. Maybe that's hockey, though.

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And if Fielder's contract says the manager can't do that, the manager needs to:

1. Have Fielder's contract with him in the meeting with Fielder

2. Throw it on the floor/ground

3. Urinate on the contract

Because of problems MLB has had in the past over certain incentive clauses, I doubt very much Fielder's contract says anything like "he must play every game unless he is on the DL," "he can never be used as a DH," or "he can never be removed for a pinch runner." Those were probably all verbal agreements between DD/Leyland and Fielder. With a new manager coming in, they can say, 'all those agreements are open for discussion.'

As far as telling him to lose 40 pounds, they can't DIRECTLY order him to do it (again such clauses have been eliminated from MLB over the years) but they can certainly imply to him that if he does not, his PT may be adversely affected.

And if the contract DOES say anything that prohibits them even talking about it, no they are not going to throw it on the floor and pee on it.

"Getting tough" with a player is one thing, getting stupid and asking for a grievance/arbitration hearing against you is something different altogether. You want to light a fire under the player's butt, not turn him into a bitter malcontent.

You want to set it up in such a way that if he DOES come into camp 30 pounds or so lighter, in better shape and playing better, you can trade some things off: "we will only lift you for a PR if the run is crucial in the 8th/9th," etc etc.

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Are the Tigers even allowed to announce anything during the World Series? I was kind of under the impression that no major transactions are allowed to be announced while the World Series is underway. Maybe that's hockey, though.

I think they ask that announcements happen on off days.

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I hope it none of the old crew... get rid of the whole Pittsburgh mafia and start over.. I would like to see Guillen, with a team full of Latino's he would be perfect

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The more I've read and heard, the more I like the sound of Ausmus in the dugout.

I'm not trying to attack you, I simply ask the question....Why? He's never managed, other than team israel. Just because someone is smart doesn't mean they'll be successful. I suppose everyone has to have their first break...I just don't see dombrowski doing this-not with this team and the expectations set for it.

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I would guess if Ausmus gets the gig, he will bring in a crafty crusty vet as bench coach. I suppose we might see the return of Phil Garner in such a capacity.

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Key internal candidates discussed here have been Lloyd McClendon and Gene Lamont. Why not any Jeff Jones love? Because he started as the Tigers bullpen coach? So did Lloyd McClendon. I kind of think that Jeff Jones managing and Dave Duncan as pitching coach would be a solid call.

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I'm not trying to attack you, I simply ask the question....Why? He's never managed, other than team israel. Just because someone is smart doesn't mean they'll be successful. I suppose everyone has to have their first break...I just don't see dombrowski doing this-not with this team and the expectations set for it.

I don't, either. My guess is that McClendon will get a short-term deal to try to finish what Leyland started.

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Pete Rose is the only player-manager since the 1970's, and I don't remember in that kind of detail.

Joe Torre and Frank Robinson were player mangers in the 70's, though Torre was short lived because he didn't think he could effectively manage while playing.

I don't think you'll see this anymore. It hasn't happened in a lot of years and I don't see a reason to bring it back.

Tony LaRussa was a player/manager with the White Sox in the early `80s.

As far as the Tigers' go, if it's an internal guy I think it'll be Lloyd.

Outside it's a crap shoot, between Wallach, Luvullo, Ausmus, & Oquendo. I have no idea which one of all of these would be the best fit. I mentioned Wallach in another thread, but I wonder if DD will go with Oquendo to connect with Latino players?

I also think Biff makes a great point that DD has had a month & a half to figure this out, & it could very well be a done deal.

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Tony LaRussa was a player/manager with the White Sox in the early `80s.

His last year as a player was 1973.

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The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced it's Lloyd's job to lose.

Dombrowski likes to bring in guys he knows or has worked with before.

Despite our impatience as fans with not winning the WS, this team has been a consistently winning team and I think the continuity and comfort factor of maintaining most of the same coaching staff will go a long way with DD.

Dombrowski said he thinks managerial experience is a factor not to be over looked, Lloyd has it.

Again, despite our grumblings with the offense lapsing into droughts at times, we really can't blame the hitting coaches for that.

Harrah is already on the staff making the hitting coach transition very easy.

A new manager almost certainly will want all new coaches. We'd probably lose Jeff Jones who we all want to see stay.

I think the upside to bringing in someone new to "light a fire" or "become less old school" is dwarfed by the benefits of maintaining most of the staff and not making wholesale coaching changes up and down the line.

If DD wants to be more in tune with stats (new school), he can hire another stat guy as an assistant for the research department. There's no need to gamble with the unknown of a completely new staff to achieve that goal.

If a connection with the Latin players is a priority, again no need to make wholesale changes. There will be at a minimum, at least one hitting coach opening and depending on Lamont's decision to stay or retire, maybe a bench coach position.

This team ain't broken, no need to "fix" it. Maintaining the course is going to take precedence.

Book it.

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I don't think the Latin thing matters.... every team has prominent Latin guys now. Any manager knows that's something that is part of the job.

I lean towards Lloyd too but the thing that brings me back is if it were Lloyd they probably knew that all along and would have announced it on Tuesday. Unless they didn't get enough time to sort out all the contractual stuff before the WS started and now they have to wait. Heck, Lloyd may have been offered the job but he wanted a couple of days to think about it.

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When the new manager comes in, how long does he get to win the World Series?

What if the Tigers miss the playoffs the next two seasons, should the manager be fired?

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I don't think the Latin thing matters.... every team has prominent Latin guys now. Any manager knows that's something that is part of the job.

I lean towards Lloyd too but the thing that brings me back is if it were Lloyd they probably knew that all along and would have announced it on Tuesday. Unless they didn't get enough time to sort out all the contractual stuff before the WS started and now they have to wait. Heck, Lloyd may have been offered the job but he wanted a couple of days to think about it.

Delaying the announcement allows the Leyland lovefest to occur. No matter who is hired, there is going to be people complaining. This way Leyland gets the fanfare and after a short period, the complaining about the new manager can begin.

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Delaying the announcement allows the Leyland lovefest to occur. No matter who is hired, there is going to be people complaining. This way Leyland gets the fanfare and after a short period, the complaining about the new manager can begin.

I am not sure its about a Leyland lovefest. I think that maybe, just maybe, DD wants to talk to Torey Lovullo and Jose Oquendo and if not that, Dave has always respected the game and I think they would wait until after the World Series to make an announcement - even if they could make an announcement on a day off. I am sure Dave started putting a list together on September 7th and he's probably already crossed a few names off of it.

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Key internal candidates discussed here have been Lloyd McClendon and Gene Lamont. Why not any Jeff Jones love? Because he started as the Tigers bullpen coach? So did Lloyd McClendon. I kind of think that Jeff Jones managing and Dave Duncan as pitching coach would be a solid call.

Dave Duncan has said he doesn't want to be a pitching coach if he returns to baseball. I like Jones where he is.

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I don't think the Latin thing matters.... every team has prominent Latin guys now. Any manager knows that's something that is part of the job.

I lean towards Lloyd too but the thing that brings me back is if it were Lloyd they probably knew that all along and would have announced it on Tuesday. Unless they didn't get enough time to sort out all the contractual stuff before the WS started and now they have to wait. Heck, Lloyd may have been offered the job but he wanted a couple of days to think about it.

I think this is gaining traction in my mind. I think it feels like Lloyd is the candidate and DD is just doing due diligence.

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It could simply be logistics.... if it's true nobody knew about it until Saturday night then surely you don't have an interview with Lloyd until Sunday or Monay at the very earlierst and even that seems unlikely.... then if you do get an agreement there's still stuff that has to be worked out once you get an agreement. By then it's late Tuesday or Wednesday and teh WS has started so they have to wait.

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That is racist if they picked Lloyd right away before considering any white guys.

I hope MLB fines the Tigers if this is the case.

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The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced it's Lloyd's job to lose.

Dombrowski likes to bring in guys he knows or has worked with before.

Despite our impatience as fans with not winning the WS, this team has been a consistently winning team and I think the continuity and comfort factor of maintaining most of the same coaching staff will go a long way with DD.

Dombrowski said he thinks managerial experience is a factor not to be over looked, Lloyd has it.

Again, despite our grumblings with the offense lapsing into droughts at times, we really can't blame the hitting coaches for that.

Harrah is already on the staff making the hitting coach transition very easy.

A new manager almost certainly will want all new coaches. We'd probably lose Jeff Jones who we all want to see stay.

I think the upside to bringing in someone new to "light a fire" or "become less old school" is dwarfed by the benefits of maintaining most of the staff and not making wholesale coaching changes up and down the line.

If DD wants to be more in tune with stats (new school), he can hire another stat guy as an assistant for the research department. There's no need to gamble with the unknown of a completely new staff to achieve that goal.

If a connection with the Latin players is a priority, again no need to make wholesale changes. There will be at a minimum, at least one hitting coach opening and depending on Lamont's decision to stay or retire, maybe a bench coach position.

This team ain't broken, no need to "fix" it. Maintaining the course is going to take precedence.

Book it.

It does make sense. He could be a good manager for the team. Its sort of natural to think the grass is greener on the other side and prefer an outside candidate and we've also picked apart his weaknesses or perceived weaknesses as a hitting coach whereas we don't know the other candidates and haven't had the chance to do that to them. Its also true that being a manager and being in charge of an entire team's performance is different than just being a coach on a team so his stint as a hitting coach is not necessarily the best predictor of his success as a manger, either.

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