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The last thing they need to do is alienate Cabrera, JV and a few others. Getting their buy in is good management.

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I'm very pleased about this because I've wanted to see a change for a very long time now, a time that can be measured in years (multiple). I've had enough of Leyland.

I don't know that another manager can do better, but I do know that I'm ready to see if someone else can.

Leyland's strength was keeping the clubhouse together. His weakness was managing baseball games.

I would not mind if the Tigers hired from within their own staff as you have a full team of guys who have gotten to see Leyland's strength as clubhouse manager and perhaps could learn from him, while bringing another type of mind to the field.

Overall though, I agree with Lee, that there are certain candidates like Dusty Baker that I absolutely do not want, but for the most part I'm willing to give almost anyone the benefit of the doubt due to the lack of information that I have.

I do think I'd do backflips over Acta though. I find it unlikely that the Tigers would hire him, so I'm committed to just waiting and seeing.

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Then....uh...let them run the team? Not a good idea.

Based on your vast experience in the MLB?

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Then....uh...let them run the team? Not a good idea.

There are not simply two options, my way or the highway. Any manager who approaches a roster of major league players with that tone will not meet with long term success.

A Justin Verlander or Miguel Cabrera - that is, a player teammates look to as an example - must be part of a conversation with management about key issues. They shouldn't have final say, though if one of them had a strong and reasoned objection to a player or coaching decision, I would hope the manager/GM listens.

The best teams have a strong chain of command, from the owner's box to the locker room: Red Wings/Patriots/NY Yankees (c. late 1990s), etc. If Yzerman/Brady/Jeter objected to a front office move, I'm pretty sure those front offices would listen.

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There will be one call made for sure, if it hasn't been made already (and I'd be surprised if it hasn't). Tony LaRussa. Before you poo poo it, consider this is the same owner who brought Scotty Bowman in when no one thought that would happen. This hire could be a 2 year guy since the window on this nucleus is not totally wide open anymore. If LaRussa wants it, my guess is he gets it. But that's the question- does he want it again? It's a premier job and its a team that with some tweaks and the right stewardship could win. Then you turn it over to a guy on his staff with less experience. I've never been a huge LaRussa guy, but he's got the pedigree. Question is, would he want to go back to the grind and, in particular, follow one of his best friends to try to one up him? I think it's an interesting question.

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Lynn Henning is going with his guess as to the pick in tomorrows print edition.

I am wondering why Brad Ausmus is on so many people's lists. What the dreidel?

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I like former catchers as managers.

I bet that DD has 2 or 3 he wants to talk to. He will have at least one "decoy" interivew.

The no list for me:

No Ozzie

No Baker

No Gibby

No current tiger MLB coach

The possibles:

Asmus

Bull Durham-- maybe

Manny Acta.

Bucky Showalter --under contract to the O's and probably not a goood fit if the clubhouse is self policing.

Bull Durham would be interesting, I doubt he gets a shot though.

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I like Charlie Manuel. His Phillies were constructed similar to the Tigers, strong rotations, suspect bullpens, high priced hitters. You can bring Manuel in on a short term contract and hire someone like Ausmus as bench coach to take over for Manuel.

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There will be one call made for sure, if it hasn't been made already (and I'd be surprised if it hasn't). Tony LaRussa. Before you poo poo it, consider this is the same owner who brought Scotty Bowman in when no one thought that would happen. This hire could be a 2 year guy since the window on this nucleus is not totally wide open anymore. If LaRussa wants it, my guess is he gets it. But that's the question- does he want it again? It's a premier job and its a team that with some tweaks and the right stewardship could win. Then you turn it over to a guy on his staff with less experience. I've never been a huge LaRussa guy, but he's got the pedigree. Question is, would he want to go back to the grind and, in particular, follow one of his best friends to try to one up him? I think it's an interesting question.

LaRussa had a premier job and a team that was play-off ready, that he walked away from.

That said, DD and LaRussa have a relationship from their days together in the Whitesox organization.

Anyway, I'm not for or against LaRussa, but I do think it's a longshot that he would be interested.

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There will be one call made for sure, if it hasn't been made already (and I'd be surprised if it hasn't). Tony LaRussa. Before you poo poo it, consider this is the same owner who brought Scotty Bowman in when no one thought that would happen. This hire could be a 2 year guy since the window on this nucleus is not totally wide open anymore. If LaRussa wants it, my guess is he gets it. But that's the question- does he want it again? It's a premier job and its a team that with some tweaks and the right stewardship could win. Then you turn it over to a guy on his staff with less experience. I've never been a huge LaRussa guy, but he's got the pedigree. Question is, would he want to go back to the grind and, in particular, follow one of his best friends to try to one up him? I think it's an interesting question.

La Russa has said he only wants a front office job and there's also zero chance he would take over the job that one of his best friends just had.

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I am wondering why Brad Ausmus is on so many people's lists. What the dreidel?

Magic 8 Ball is big on Ausmus.

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I don't see us going with a rookie. It's just not a good idea. I'm not saying it wouldn't work, obviously it could, but it's too risky.

I don't see us going with a big name. Dusty Baker is a joke, so is Ozzie Guillen. I swear I would hate those two no matter what the results.

There are three ways we could go.

1) Hire Within. This would be annoying, especially to the anti-Leyland crowd. It'd be like a three year extension to Leyland IMO.

2) Free Agent Coach. There are only two I like - Manny Acta and Don Mattingly.

3) Trade. This intrigues me. We have pieces to trade (Scherzer) and pieces we need (a bullpen, possibly a second baseman)... I could see a blockbuster worked out with the Angels for Scioscia or Orioles for Showalter.

Overall, I think Mattingly could be here by the end of the week.

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I don't see us going with a rookie. It's just not a good idea. I'm not saying it wouldn't work, obviously it could, but it's too risky.

I don't see us going with a big name. Dusty Baker is a joke, so is Ozzie Guillen. I swear I would hate those two no matter what the results.

There are three ways we could go.

1) Hire Within. This would be annoying, especially to the anti-Leyland crowd. It'd be like a three year extension to Leyland IMO.

2) Free Agent Coach. There are only two I like - Manny Acta and Don Mattingly.

3) Trade. This intrigues me. We have pieces to trade (Scherzer) and pieces we need (a bullpen, possibly a second baseman)... I could see a blockbuster worked out with the Angels for Scioscia or Orioles for Showalter.

Overall, I think Mattingly could be here by the end of the week.

Mattingly has an option that triggered by reaching the NLCS. He would have to be fired by the Dodgers first.

And I'm not sure why Mattingly, there were a lot of critics of his managing this year, and he's not very experienced. I think this is a name hire, and I'd prefer to look for the best candidate. We don't need any more star power in Detroit.

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Mattingly's in game decisions are constantly questioned. No thanks.

I don't see the Tigers trading any useful pieces for a manager. No way.

Dave Martinez is an interesting name.

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Mattingly has an option that triggered by reaching the NLCS. He would have to be fired by the Dodgers first.

And I'm not sure why Mattingly, there were a lot of critics of his managing this year, and he's not very experienced. I think this is a name hire, and I'd prefer to look for the best candidate. We don't need any more star power in Detroit.

Mattingly has said that just because his option vested doesn't necessarily mean he wants to return. He's pretty p***ed at the Dodgers right now for not extending him during the season. And if he wants out, it's definitely in the best interest of the Dodgers to release him if he wants to go elsewhere.

And it's worth mentioning that he made this announcement today at a press conference, sitting right next to the Dodgers GM Ned Colletti (creating an awkward atmosphere), about an hour and a half after Leyland announced his retirement.

I could be reading too much into this, but I think he's someone to look at.

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La Russa has said he only wants a front office job and there's also zero chance he would take over the job that one of his best friends just had.

I know what he's said about the front office job thing. But is the last part about taking a friend's job his comment or your opinion? Because I don't think it's nearly as far fetched as many of the names that are being thrown around. My guess is that DD goes with a short term, experienced (and successful) manager, as opposed to a newcomer or relative newcomer. I'd be really shocked if LaRussa became the manager, but I'd be far from surprised. If he's going to do it ever again, this is the job.

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I know what he's said about the front office job thing. But is the last part about taking a friend's job his comment or your opinion? Because I don't think it's nearly as far fetched as many of the names that are being thrown around. My guess is that DD goes with a short term, experienced (and successful) manager, as opposed to a newcomer or relative newcomer. I'd be really shocked if LaRussa became the manager, but I'd be far from surprised. If he's going to do it ever again, this is the job.

Just my opinion. I don't think he'd do that to Jim especially since La Russa got Jim back into the game a few years back with that job with the Cardinals. Jim might not even care, but I still don't think it's something that will happen just out of respect.

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