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I don't know if I wrote this in the other thread or not because I've been working so much lately everything is blending together....I meant to write it though: I need you to stop posting my opinions before I come on the board to post my opinions. This is becoming absurd. Guess I'll just +1 this post too.

Oh, I will add that I don't personally see steroid use as cheating in its worse possible application. I see steroid use as a minor infraction, in my mind comparable to being the "parking violation" of sports offenses: Annoying, rude, unsportsmanlike, but not the worst thing in the World. When people talk about steroids, they speak of it as if players were cutting directly from first base to third every time they played over the course of their career, like it was a brand of cheating that fundamentally altered the game of baseball itself. That's simply not the way I perceive it.

Guess I'll just +1 this post too.

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I don't consider networking to be the same as possibly exploiting someone. Anyway, I just thought it was an odd result.

If by exploiting you mean "Hey man, this stuff has really helped me recover, I can hook you up," I can see that.

If you are insinuating there is some shady "Dominican Don" involved, well...

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12 former Tigers...

Yeah...and we know Leyland has a positive relationship with Barry Bonds

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I know that list isn't validated but I believe it.

I don't believe anything I read on Bleacher Report, but I since I believe the majority of players were using PEDs back then, no name would surprise me.

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I don't think breaking rules is good, but I also don't understand why steroids are bad but rampant amphetamine use, cortisone shots, the harvesting of the ligaments of the dead to repair the living, and everything else we do to make our players superhuman mutants is ok

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I don't think breaking rules is good, but I also don't understand why steroids are bad but rampant amphetamine use, cortisone shots, the harvesting of the ligaments of the dead to repair the living, and everything else we do to make our players superhuman mutants is ok

when you put it like that...ughh

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I don't think breaking rules is good, but I also don't understand why steroids are bad but rampant amphetamine use, cortisone shots, the harvesting of the ligaments of the dead to repair the living, and everything else we do to make our players superhuman mutants is ok

If you think about it players today have so many advantages when compared to the glory years. From medical advancements, to nutrition, to contracts that don't require them to work in the off season, to ease/ comfort of travel, technology. All of these things have had a role in enhancing performances. Pretending the playing field is level when it comes to various records if not for PEDs seems silly to me.

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I don't think breaking rules is good, but I also don't understand why steroids are bad but rampant amphetamine use, cortisone shots, the harvesting of the ligaments of the dead to repair the living, and everything else we do to make our players superhuman mutants is ok

I think this is going to be a really serious question as medical technology gets better. Today, we still can draw a fairly clear line between medical practice (to draw on the comparison a few days ago) like cortisone, and anabolics which may improve performance but at a detriment to overall health. EPO is already making that paradigm obsolete, luckily it doesn't help Baseball players.

TJ surgery is another camel's nose in the tent here. A number of pitchers have said they've thrown harder after TJ than the did before it even when heathly. So what happens when it become std practice that some new torn muscle therapy regenerates a stronger muscle as a matter of normal course? Do we want sports to operate on the basis of athletes deliberately harming themselves in order to get the benefit of 'bionic' medicine?

All good questions that are rushing toward us from the future.

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I don't think breaking rules is good, but I also don't understand why steroids are bad but rampant amphetamine use, cortisone shots, the harvesting of the ligaments of the dead to repair the living, and everything else we do to make our players superhuman mutants is ok

+1 on this as well.

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Apparently he had told the club that he was going to appeal. They claimed to be "shocked" that he changed his mind at the last minute.

They should have planned for this like the Tigers did.

Yeah, it's impossible to predict that a pending free agent would want to get the suspension out of the way before he has to sign with another team...

They should have seen this coming. Imagine how many millions Cruz would lose in free agency if he had a 50-game suspension dangling over his head. No contending team would pay for him, and Oakland or someone would pick him up for pennies on the dollar.

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This is stupid.

Stupid that the reporters asked about it, or stupid on Leyland's part?

I'm glad Leyland did it. The reporters were stupid for asking about it because it was clear that it's not Leyland's decision, and that he was not going to talk about it.

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Stupid that the reporters asked about it, or stupid on Leyland's part?

I'm glad Leyland did it. The reporters were stupid for asking about it because it was clear that it's not Leyland's decision, and that he was not going to talk about it.

It was stupid for him to throw all the writers out because one writer asked a forbidden question. My opinion is that it was an immature little power play. There was nothing stopping him from reiterating that he wasn't answering questions on JP and moving on. That would have been a much more appropriate response.

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I don't believe anything I read on Bleacher Report, but I since I believe the majority of players were using PEDs back then, no name would surprise me.

I will agree with you on bleacher report. I won't even read most links to that site but I do believe those names.

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It was stupid for him to throw all the writers out because one writer asked a forbidden question. My opinion is that it was an immature little power play. There was nothing stopping him from reiterating that he wasn't answering questions on JP and moving on. That would have been a much more appropriate response.

It's just a pregame meeting.... this isn't the President of the United States discussing policy, it's a baseball game. The fans/readers don't have an urgent need to know his thoughts. If that's the first question and it's one covered by other people in the organization and they were told the field manager wouldn't discuss it, then I guess they had nothing else to talk about. Leyland's got work to do before the game so he got to more pressing matters.

And it's best to let DD handle it as the team's CEO/President/GM because he's the one who was in contact with MLB, Peralta's people, etc. Leyland doesn't get involved in that stuff. His area is the 25 guys on the team and Peralta's not one of them.

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It was stupid for him to throw all the writers out because one writer asked a forbidden question. My opinion is that it was an immature little power play. There was nothing stopping him from reiterating that he wasn't answering questions on JP and moving on. That would have been a much more appropriate response.

The immature thing (for an EXTREMELY immature person like Reiger) was to ask, when specifically told NOT to ask. He is like a little kid/troll who just wants to see someone blow up.

Why should he have to reiterate it? How many times do you tell your kids not to do something before you punish them? A big problem in society in general these days is too many warnings and not enough punishment. Reiger is like a little child.

ATBF about it anyway...him throwing them out probably garnered better ratings for that crappy radio show anyway.

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The immature thing (for an EXTREMELY immature person like Reiger) was to ask, when specifically told NOT to ask. He is like a little kid/troll who just wants to see someone blow up.

Why should he have to reiterate it? How many times do you tell your kids not to do something before you punish them? A big problem in society in general these days is too many warnings and not enough punishment. Reiger is like a little child.

ATBF about it anyway...him throwing them out probably garnered better ratings for that crappy radio show anyway.

Turn the argument around. Is it the other press members' job to police Reiger? Or their fault he was a jerk?

I think JL finds the league mandated press access a PITA so is always willing to use some excuse to shutdown an interview period - I'm not sure I blame him. But he shouldn't take it out on the reporters, his argument is with the league office.

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Turn the argument around. Is it the other press members' job to police Reiger? Or their fault he was a jerk?

I think JL finds the league mandated press access a PITA so is always willing to use some excuse to shutdown an interview period - I'm not sure I blame him. But he shouldn't take it out on the reporters, his argument is with the league office.

Yeah it is, actually. It is called Peer review. Let it go and he will continue to be a moron. Enough people say to Regier after he asks "Dude I had a big story I was going to write based on some info I was going to try and get.'...again, get enough people to admonish him and maybe the next time when he is told not to ask a question maybe he will not.

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My guess is that the reporters, in general, probably high fived him after and made jokes about it so who cares....which again IMO is part of the problem.

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Yeah it is, actually. It is called Peer review. Let it go and he will continue to be a moron. Enough people say to Regier after he asks "Dude I had a big story I was going to write based on some info I was going to try and get.'...again, get enough people to admonish him and maybe the next time when he is told not to ask a question maybe he will not.

I think you over-estimate the leverage they would have. They don't write his paycheck.

And I think you mean peer pressure. Peer review is what academic journals do.

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I think you over-estimate the leverage they would have. They don't write his paycheck.

If I did then there would be no term or definition for peer review. It would never work and it would have died away like the dinosaur.

Maybe Reiger is just that dumb and if you HAVE to deal with that kind of person even AFTER you tell him to keep his trap shut about what they were told not to ask then maybe you try your best to be professional and ask the skip after the interview session is over that you apologize FOR him and would love to ask 1 or 2 non Peralta questions for a piece you were going to write. If you are professional the whole time with the skip I would bet he would answer those questions for you if the professionalism is genuine and consistent.

I believe in Peer review just as I do peer pressure...both are real IMO. Some people will never succumb to either...maybe Reiger is just one of those guys.

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