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I hope he does change and nets 9 assists a game.

I still think it is pretty unlikely.

9 might be a bit much too ask, but he did have a 6.5 assist season. My year 1 goals for Brandon Jennings:

7 APG 2.5 TPG 12 FGA 6 3PFGA 4FTA per game and drop his USG to say 20%. Give me 40 from 3, 40% overall and his TS% will go up a few tics.

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I guess I am not understanding what Lebron and Melo have to do with my concern that Smith will spend a bunch of time at the 3.

I think because of the matchups we'll face(not just those 2), Smith will end up playing more minutes at the 4 than the 3. We have pretty poor depth up front and a lot of guys who we'll want to give minutes on the wing. There's no need for anyone to play minutes at the 5 besides Dre and Monroe. Monroe might only play 18-20 minutes at the 4, leaving a lot of time for Smith.

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I would be happy with a time distribution like this. Does this look right?

Dre = 34 minutes at C

Monroe = 14 minutes at C, 18 minutes at PF

Smith = 22 minutes at PF, 10 minutes at SF

Jerebko/CV = 8 minutes at PF, 6 minutes at SF

Singler/Datome = 32 minutes at SF

Jennings = 34 minutes at PG

Billups = 14 minutes at PG, 10 minutes at SG

Stuckey = 24 minutes at SG

KCP = 16 minutes at SG

Edited by Elevate

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Hoopshype reporting that Kim English signed with Montepaschi Siena in the Italian league. They have won their league 7 years in a row so they must be a good team. He can get out of the deal if he gets an NBA deal before August 22nd.

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I think because of the matchups we'll face(not just those 2), Smith will end up playing more minutes at the 4 than the 3. We have pretty poor depth up front and a lot of guys who we'll want to give minutes on the wing. There's no need for anyone to play minutes at the 5 besides Dre and Monroe. Monroe might only play 18-20 minutes at the 4, leaving a lot of time for Smith.

What happens in year 2 and on in the deal? Andre is going to be taking more time at center as time passes.

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What happens in year 2 and on in the deal? Andre is going to be taking more time at center as time passes.

Maybe. I've noted before that a guy like Roy Hibbert has never played 30 minutes and a lot of top Cs sit in the low end of the 30s. For Drummond to play 35, he'll have to really improve his FT shooting and conditioning. Even still, you can easily play Monroe 20-25 at PF and 13 at C if Drummond is playing 35. That leaves plenty of time for Smith at PF.

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When they signed Smith all anyone could talk about was how big and imposing the front line would be. Now all anyone can do is talk about how little those guys will actually play together.

Makes no sense.

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When they signed Smith all anyone could talk about was how big and imposing the front line would be. Now all anyone can do is talk about how little those guys will actually play together.

Makes no sense.

It a great deal if they don't play together. Or if they trade Monroe for a 3.

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When they signed Smith all anyone could talk about was how big and imposing the front line would be. Now all anyone can do is talk about how little those guys will actually play together.

Makes no sense.

Makes a lot of sense. It means we will have a fresh front court throughout the game. Not many teams have 3 legit guys that they can play PF and C. The Pistons can do that, and they should. Whatever SF hits the most 3's should play when one of the big fellas needs a spell. Smith should see more time at PF than at SF. It's good strategy.

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Makes a lot of sense. It means we will have a fresh front court throughout the game. Not many teams have 3 legit guys that they can play PF and C. The Pistons can do that, and they should. Whatever SF hits the most 3's should play when one of the big fellas needs a spell. Smith should see more time at PF than at SF. It's good strategy.

I want Smith to see virtually no time at the 3, TBH.

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I want Smith to see virtually no time at the 3, TBH.

This.

But that requires one of the Pistons three best players to be on the bench.

You're right. The deal looks a lot better if they move Monroe for a 3.

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This.

But that requires one of the Pistons three best players to be on the bench.

You're right. The deal looks a lot better if they move Monroe for a 3.

Joe said in his interview (I posted it in this thread somewhere) that outside of the opening minutes Smith will spend a lot of time at PF. While it's true that teams put their best players on the court together, we can't forget that Dre is going to be barely 20 when the season starts and is still raw as heck. Playing him about 30 minutes/game makes sense. I posted earlier that I think bringing him off the bench (still 30 minutes) makes even more sense, but I know people aren't happy with that idea because they want to rush his development so much since he's potentially the closest thing to a star this team has had in a long time.

I see the Pistons playing Smith about 15-20 minutes/game at SF on most nights with Monroe getting about that same number of minutes at C when Dre isn't in the game. You've got guys like Luigi, Singler, and even KCP who'll get minutes at the SF to soak up the remaining time when Smith isn't there and spread the court a little better.

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You're right. The deal looks a lot better if they move Monroe for a 3.

If the Pistons did that, I'd be completely on board.

Maybe it would work and maybe not, but at least I would get what they were doing and go so far as to say I think it more likely to work than the bottom out and hope to get two or three franchise players in a short period of time model.

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Joe said in his interview (I posted it in this thread somewhere) that outside of the opening minutes Smith will spend a lot of time at PF. While it's true that teams put their best players on the court together, we can't forget that Dre is going to be barely 20 when the season starts and is still raw as heck. Playing him about 30 minutes/game makes sense. I posted earlier that I think bringing him off the bench (still 30 minutes) makes even more sense, but I know people aren't happy with that idea because they want to rush his development so much since he's potentially the closest thing to a star this team has had in a long time.

I see the Pistons playing Smith about 15-20 minutes/game at SF on most nights with Monroe getting about that same number of minutes at C when Dre isn't in the game. You've got guys like Luigi, Singler, and even KCP who'll get minutes at the SF to soak up the remaining time when Smith isn't there and spread the court a little better.

My problem with that is while that is workable year 1, this isn't a team that should be looking that hard at year 1. It is years 2-4 I am more concerned about, and I think 15-20 minutes at SF for Smith is about 15 too many anyway.

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9 might be a bit much too ask, but he did have a 6.5 assist season. My year 1 goals for Brandon Jennings:

7 APG 2.5 TPG 12 FGA 6 3PFGA 4FTA per game and drop his USG to say 20%. Give me 40 from 3, 40% overall and his TS% will go up a few tics.

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I think those are pretty good goals and attainable for him.

Going in a bit of a different direction. I want two things from him.

1) I want his AST% to be at least 35%. That would be 6 points higher than last year and 7 higher than his career average. It would also put him in the top 12-15 for that stat. He ranked 35th this year.

2) Stop the mid-range junk. Just stop shooting between 15 and 23 feet. Either shoot it in the paint or from behind the line.

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My problem with that is while that is workable year 1, this isn't a team that should be looking that hard at year 1. It is years 2-4 I am more concerned about, and I think 15-20 minutes at SF for Smith is about 15 too many anyway.

The playoffs concern me as well.

Someone brought up Hibbert earlier. While true he has never played 30 MPG in the regular season, he did play 36.5 in the playoffs last year. Almost all starters get more minutes in the playoffs. More minutes at C and PF for Drummond/Monroe means more minutes for Smith at SF.

You can play Smith at SF against a bad team like the Celtics in the regular season. Playing someone out of position gets magnified in the playoffs. The competition is better, teams prepare better, the coaching is better. And you generally get hammered for it.

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A player relevant to Monroe and his extension just signed.

Pekovic is getting 5/$60M and someone said another $8M worth of possible incentives.

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My problem with that is while that is workable year 1, this isn't a team that should be looking that hard at year 1. It is years 2-4 I am more concerned about, and I think 15-20 minutes at SF for Smith is about 15 too many anyway.

I don't see how anything changes in year 2

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