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Well, we'll partly disagree. I still think Jones is the better player but Te'o is a better fit for the Lions and fills a need.

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I still wouldn't be surprised if Jarvis Jones never plays a down in the NFL. I have a sneaky feeling that a physical following the draft (or maybe at the combine?) will show his condition is too serious too allow him to play in the NFL and he'll retire before the season starts with a nice compensation package.

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I still wouldn't be surprised if Jarvis Jones never plays a down in the NFL. I have a sneaky feeling that a physical following the draft (or maybe at the combine?) will show his condition is too serious too allow him to play in the NFL and he'll retire before the season starts with a nice compensation package.

That's very true, it's too risky at that point in the draft.

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Although the pick won't be as costly as it did in previous years, the lack of premium talent will probably mean the Lions won't be able to trade down in the draft. They're going to need a DE, but I very much prefer changing the culture around town and drafting Manti Te'o, who is very much like Junior Seau imo, and would have that kind of effect on the franchise.

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Look like the Lions will draft at #4 if the Raiders win today. God help us in the hands of Mayhew

Doesn't look good for the Raiders. Lions probably picking 5th.

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Although the pick won't be as costly as it did in previous years, the lack of premium talent will probably mean the Lions won't be able to trade down in the draft. They're going to need a DE, but I very much prefer changing the culture around town and drafting Manti Te'o, who is very much like Junior Seau imo, and would have that kind of effect on the franchise.

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Although the pick won't be as costly as it did in previous years, the lack of premium talent will probably mean the Lions won't be able to trade down in the draft. They're going to need a DE, but I very much prefer changing the culture around town and drafting Manti Te'o, who is very much like Junior Seau imo, and would have that kind of effect on the franchise.

I would be good with Te'o at the top of our draft board, with Moore behind him at #2. I'm hoping we get Te'o for the same reasons you've listed above.

Some other thoughts: With our 2nd & 3rd round picks, I'm hoping we pick up some safeties. I'm also good with picking up bigger CB's that can also play an excellent Free Safety. I'm thinking guys like Xavier Rhodes or David Amerson. I hope one of those guys falls to the 2nd. I don't think Vaccaro will fall to the 2nd. I'd love to pick up a hybrid FS/CB with size, speed, and hitting ability. In the 3rd I'm hoping we could pick up TJ McDonald or Robert Lester.

I'd like to use the 2nd & 3rd round picks on this position even if we do re-sign Delmas.

I'd actually be OK with using the 6th or 7th round draft pick on a Punter like Quinn Sharp or Ryan Allen.

5th and 6th round picks I hope we find a play-maker and/ or deep threat at RB (Mike Gillislee (fat chance he falls to the 5th!), Kenjon Barner (the guy I'd like to get here), and WR. There'll be alot of WR's that will fall to the 6th round that have deep speed, but are short in other areas (small college, size, route-running); the question is whether we can find someone that can develop into a productive player.

Any comp picks we get we can grab depth/ developmental guys...

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Te'o would be a very nice fit for us...he was a nice college LB before this season, but he really worked his butt off to improve his coverage skills this year. That...I think...speaks to his "coachability".

I will pimp BGSU's DT Chris Jones as a nice MAC guy down in that 5-6 rd area. More of a weak DT in the NFL but he has a great motor, decent hands and he's a beast in the weight room.

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Now that the top half of the draft has been determined, I'm seeing a lot of mock drafts with the Lions getting DE Dion Jordan out of Oregon. Color me unimpressed. I hate taking a "high ceiling" guy in the first round. I'd rather take a guy who has been productive in college and has a track record, like Te'o. Then again, Jordan could be the next JPP. I'd just rather erase as much risk as possible when you're picking in the first round, especially at the top of it. For round two, I like TJ McDonald (USC) or Matt Elam (Florida). I would like Vaccaro but he's gonna be a mid-first round guy. On the defensive line, I don't know if anyone was watching, but Will Sutton from Arizona State was dominating in their bowl game. Blowing up everything. Seems like he could be a mid-round guy.

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1. Kansas City Chiefs

2. Jacksonville Jaguars

3. Oakland Raiders

4. Philadelphia Eagles

5. Detroit Lions

6. Cleveland Browns

7. Arizona Cardinals

8. Buffalo Bills

9. New York Jets

10. Tennessee Titans

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One of the Mocks right now I see has...

1. Chiefs - QB Geno Smith

2. Jaguars - DE/OLB Jarvis Jones

3. Raiders - NT Star Lotulelei

4. Eagles - OT Luke Joeckle

5. Lions - DE/OLB Damontre Moore

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I'm on the Teo bandwagon and I also really like Werner. Not sure quite yet if he could go top 5, but I might take him over Moore and Jones. I think he's a complete player and another guy who can help change the culture. I'd love a trade down. No CB is worth the 5 pick, so dream on if you are screaming for a CB.

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I'm on the Teo bandwagon and I also really like Werner. Not sure quite yet if he could go top 5, but I might take him over Moore and Jones. I think he's a complete player and another guy who can help change the culture. I'd love a trade down. No CB is worth the 5 pick, so dream on if you are screaming for a CB.

At least half of the mocks I've seen have Dee Milliner going top five. I don't like him, but just saying.

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I'm on the Teo bandwagon and I also really like Werner. Not sure quite yet if he could go top 5, but I might take him over Moore and Jones. I think he's a complete player and another guy who can help change the culture. I'd love a trade down. No CB is worth the 5 pick, so dream on if you are screaming for a CB.

Agreed, those saying Milliner can go top 5 are out of touch. He still has too many holes in his game for a top 5 pick. I wouldn't mind seeing the Lions draft a DE and letting Avril walk.

I do like Te'o though.

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Although the pick won't be as costly as it did in previous years, the lack of premium talent will probably mean the Lions won't be able to trade down in the draft. They're going to need a DE, but I very much prefer changing the culture around town and drafting Manti Te'o, who is very much like Junior Seau imo, and would have that kind of effect on the franchise.

Yep, i've been saying this a while.

Te'o is not only a game changer but possibly even more importantly, is a culture changer. I don't see anybody in this draft who could possibly have a bigger impact than him on and off the field.

One dimensional pass rushers like Jones and Moore don't do it for me and Milliner is definitely not a top 5 talent IMO and i've seen plenty of him.

Te'o can play in every situation and quarterback the defense and make those around him better.

He might not be the fastest player in the draft but he just has the "it" factor. He's a born leader and quite a football player as well.

I have a feeling that the Eagles take him at 3, hope i'm wrong though.

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Yep, i've been saying this a while.

Te'o is not only a game changer but possibly even more importantly, is a culture changer. I don't see anybody in this draft who could possibly have a bigger impact than him on and off the field.

One dimensional pass rushers like Jones and Moore don't do it for me and Milliner is definitely not a top 5 talent IMO and i've seen plenty of him.

Te'o can play in every situation and quarterback the defense and make those around him better.

He might not be the fastest player in the draft but he just has the "it" factor. He's a born leader and quite a football player as well.

I have a feeling that the Eagles take him at 3, hope i'm wrong though.

Early LB picks have been hit and miss in recent years and I would be worried that emotion played a big part in Te'o's (?) season. Would love to trade down for CB and pick up a 2/3 round pick.

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Early LB picks have been hit and miss in recent years and I would be worried that emotion played a big part in Te'o's (?) season. Would love to trade down for CB and pick up a 2/3 round pick.

Emotion plays a big part in his game. Like I said, it's not going to be an easy draft to trade down and get any value. Sure, you could give the pick away.

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Emotion plays a big part in his game. Like I said, it's not going to be an easy draft to trade down and get any value. Sure, you could give the pick away.

I agree, trading down will be very hard and probably not very fruitful. Te'o is an emotional player who is a large risk.

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I agree, trading down will be very hard and probably not very fruitful. Te'o is an emotional player who is a large risk.

He injures other players. I don't see the risk here. He's safe, because he's very good.

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One of the Mocks right now I see has...

1. Chiefs - QB Geno Smith

2. Jaguars - DE/OLB Jarvis Jones

3. Raiders - NT Star Lotulelei

4. Eagles - OT Luke Joeckle

5. Lions - DE/OLB Damontre Moore

I sure don't see Smith going in the first, let alone #1 right now. He has a load of talent, but so does EJ Manuel of FSU. This is a draft that I'm glad the Lions don't need a QB.

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