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50 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

I'd put money on that...

He’s done it in the past - albeit not for every event.  In his semi-defense Trump is a difficult person to defend to those who aren’t pure-blooded MAGAites. 

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3 hours ago, Euphdude said:

He’s done it in the past - albeit not for every event.  In his semi-defense Trump is a difficult person to defend to those who aren’t pure-blooded MAGAites. 

What's to defend? If there's election fraud, it should be addressed in every situation. And could be with a strong voter id law. Funny how democrats are just never for that, yet they really only ***** about this sort of thing the one time it actually goes against them (and only potentially, because let's face it, it's NC). 

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5 minutes ago, stanpapi said:

What's to defend? If there's election fraud, it should be addressed in every situation. And could be with a strong voter id law. Funny how democrats are just never for that, yet they really only ***** about this sort of thing the one time it actually goes against them (and only potentially, because let's face it, it's NC). 

The NBER study said ID doesn't help.  Goose posted it so you know it's biased toward your cause.

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6 minutes ago, stanpapi said:

What's to defend? 

Right.

I was giving you props for showing up when the news isn’t in your favor unlike other fair weather posters who vanish when the issue they tout ends up being more of an problem on their side of the aisle. 

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1 minute ago, Euphdude said:

Right.

I was giving you props for showing up when the news isn’t in your favor unlike other fair weather posters who vanish when the issue they tout ends up being more of an problem on their side of the aisle. 

What isn't in my favor? Some dude in NC has a problem? It's not exactly at the highest point of my list. But thank you for the props just the same. 

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Just now, stanpapi said:

What isn't in my favor? Some dude in NC has a problem? It's not exactly at the highest point of my list. But thank you for the props just the same. 

I don’t know if you’re being daft as a form of troll bait or if you’re just not understanding what I’m saying. If it’s troll bait I’ll take it and say that of course Trump has said and done things that haven’t been in your favor. Every politician is guilty of this, and if you come back and tell me that Trump is different then I’ll definitely know you’re trolling. 

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1 hour ago, Euphdude said:

I don’t know if you’re being daft as a form of troll bait or if you’re just not understanding what I’m saying. If it’s troll bait I’ll take it and say that of course Trump has said and done things that haven’t been in your favor. Every politician is guilty of this, and if you come back and tell me that Trump is different then I’ll definitely know you’re trolling. 

I'm not trolling. I just thought it was amusing that a congressional race in NC was an example of the news "not going my way". Certainly every congressional race is important, but there's a bigger overall issue with voter fraud, ballot harvesting laws, etc. It goes beyond one single congressional race. 

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Gotta love GOP voter suppression. 

They would probably love to bring back literacy tests but they know 2/3 of their voters in Red States would fail

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32 minutes ago, CMRivdog said:

Gotta love GOP voter suppression. 

They would probably love to bring back literacy tests but they know 2/3 of their voters in Red States would fail

Their President might have a hard time with it too.  

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I doubt Trump would be able to vote under that law b/c he can't drive

 

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11 hours ago, CMRivdog said:

Gotta love GOP voter suppression. 

They would probably love to bring back literacy tests but they know 2/3 of their voters in Red States would fail

Why on earth would a person want this law?

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18 minutes ago, smr-nj said:

Why on earth would a person want this law?

Rhetorical question sounds rhetorical.

xD

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20 minutes ago, smr-nj said:

Why on earth would a person want this law?

Because internal studies by Hughes' party have probably shown it would result in a lower Dem vote turnout.  With gerrymandering appearing to be on the way out, other tricks to keep power need to be employed.

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Yeah... it’s just shocking that a person can be comfortable putting a bill out there whose intent is so obviously voter suppression. 

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10 minutes ago, smr-nj said:

Yeah... it’s just shocking that a person can be comfortable putting a bill out there whose intent is so obviously voter suppression. 

To me all of this stuff goes to a more fundamental flaw that seems to be growing in US  culture, which is that the social contract that we play our political game by fair rules is evaporating. Granted the rules have always been unfair to some, but that argument was never about the quality or importance of the rules, but who got to play. This is different. This is no longer caring about the rules altogether.

Maybe americans have grown up playing too little team sport or with too few siblings or some other great silent cultural upheaval has taken place that we are all missing for being too close to it, but the idea that large numbers of Americans, no matter what their political preferences, would be so foolish as to give political support to a party that basically says it would rather win by ruining the game than play by the rules, depresses me. 

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Politics sucks.  It's usually not even worth following, but I need to keep tabs on our wannabe dictator.   

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1 hour ago, smr-nj said:

Why on earth would a person want this law?

Because they heard of a story of one time a person heard that someone's brother might have possibly observed someone fill out a ballot for their uncle with alzheimer's so naturally the solution is to make it harder or impossible for ALL older people to vote....

It's legislation by anecdote.  

 

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3 hours ago, smr-nj said:

Why on earth would a person want this law?

 

1 hour ago, Oblong said:

Because they heard of a story of one time a person heard that someone's brother might have possibly observed someone fill out a ballot for their uncle with alzheimer's so naturally the solution is to make it harder or impossible for ALL older people to vote....

It's legislation by anecdote.  

 

Oblong's answer is the cover story.

One needs only look at the results of statewide elections in 2018 (not just O'Rourke, but races for LG, AG, Ag Commissioner, etc.) as to why a bill like this would look appealing to Republicans in the Texas Senate

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14 hours ago, pfife said:

I doubt Trump would be able to vote under that law b/c he can't drive

 

 

trump-got-to-sit-in-a-big-red-fire-truck

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