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Drummond/Monroe will set the record for steals by a bigman combo, Drummond is a steal machine out there. I really hope they bring Ben W back, between Monroe/BenW they can help train this guy. Drummond is just a perfect match for Monroe, he doesn't have to do much to be an upgrade over last year even.

Drummond definitely has the makings of what could be a very good defensive-minded center. If Ben's mind and body are willing, Joe D needs to make sure Ben is with the organization this season in some way, shape or form.

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Glad to hear.

With Bynum and Stuckey on the roster, I just don't see English needing doing that. He played the 4 in college (due to their roster) and I see him as a 2-3. From the 1st 2 games, he doesn't seem to have the mentality of a point at all - a couple times he took it himself when he clearly should have given it up.

I'd be shocked to see CV get time anywhere on the 2012-13 Pistons let alone at the 3. I also think at least 1, likely 2 of the other 4 you listed are gone at the start of the year. Because of defense and all around game, I think Singler would get minutes at the 3 before Daye would - if he isn't traded I could see Daye getting some time at the 2.

I do think JJ and whichever of Maggette/Prince is still on the team would be ahead of Singler, but I could also see JJ getting a significant amount of time as a backup 4.

As far as Gates - no room on the roster let alone is he ready for any PT. Similarity between him and Max - size and role - defensive/rebounding, dunks, and screens. Max is more athletic and has somewhat of a 15 ft shot.

If you watch Knight during summer league, he looks like he needs a break from the point from time to time. That is why I felt it wouldn't be a bad idea to let English bring the ball up a few times per quarter--might as well see what the kid can do while this environment exists. At this point in the summer, we know what Knights limitations are.

Singler just doesn't have a standout tool, as to where Daye has found his stroke again and was again the best scorer on the floor yesterday on either side. If all of this amounts to us getting some trade value out of him, then fine, but the Pistons need a forward who can come off the bench and hit 3's. I just don't see how Singler gets minutes this season unless Joe D creates that opportunity for him. JJ is a much better option off the bench, as is CM if he's still here. If Daye keeps shooting and playing good help defense, he's going to pay somewhere.

I agree there is no room ont he roster for Gates, but he's a much more imposing physical presence than Max IMO. He has two inches and 20+ pounds on his Cincinatti bretheren, and a starter's set of low post moves. I wish he had Max's moter, though.

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If you watch Knight during summer league, he looks like he needs a break from the point from time to time. That is why I felt it wouldn't be a bad idea to let English bring the ball up a few times per quarter--might as well see what the kid can do while this environment exists. At this point in the summer, we know what Knights limitations are.

Singler just doesn't have a standout tool, as to where Daye has found his stroke again and was again the best scorer on the floor yesterday on either side. If all of this amounts to us getting some trade value out of him, then fine, but the Pistons need a forward who can come off the bench and hit 3's. I just don't see how Singler gets minutes this season unless Joe D creates that opportunity for him. JJ is a much better option off the bench, as is CM if he's still here. If Daye keeps shooting and playing good help defense, he's going to pay somewhere.

I agree there is no room ont he roster for Gates, but he's a much more imposing physical presence than Max IMO. He has two inches and 20+ pounds on his Cincinatti bretheren, and a starter's set of low post moves. I wish he had Max's moter, though.

Singler is better then Daye already, if the Pistons could trade Daye for a 2nd rounder they would jump all over it. This is Austin Daye's 4th year in the summer leagues playing against mostly non-NBA players acclimated to 3 days worth of defensive training, I hope he can do well. Daye was a gamble/project at the time, too bad he didn't pan out, who would have thought a former players son would have terrible BBIQ, which is really Daye's problem, he is stupid out on the court. How many times do you need to foul a 3-point shot before you figure out it isn't a good thing to do anyway?

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Knight went off today, 19 and 14 assists. Drummond 10/8/2, Middleton gets some burn with the starters 12 pts on 5/5.

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Knight went off today, 19 and 14 assists. Drummond 10/8/2, Middleton gets some burn with the starters 12 pts on 5/5.

Good news. Looking forward to watching the game tonight. Knight was awful yesterday, but I'm not worried about him. It's good to see Drummond have good back to back games and some solid rebounding numbers.

Also nice to see Middleton hit a few shots.

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FWIW

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress

Brandon. Knight's stock went down for me after seeing him 3 times this week. Wild. Unwilling passer. Average finisher. Poor body language

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress

When you dribble for 20 seconds every possession 60 times in a game you can rack up assists. RT @KB2010Champ: Knight had 14 assists today.

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress

Andre Drummond was wildly inconsistent throughout the week here. Highs were high, and lows were very low. I still love his potential/future.

DraftExpress2 ‏@DraftExpress2

2nd rounders who had nice showings in Orlando: Kim English who was as aggressive as he was at PIT and Kyle O'Quinn who brought great energy.

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN

Pistons' Andre Drummond battling & winning defensively again Utah's Enes Kanter. But he just airballed a free throw...to the left.

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Singler is better then Daye already, if the Pistons could trade Daye for a 2nd rounder they would jump all over it. This is Austin Daye's 4th year in the summer leagues playing against mostly non-NBA players acclimated to 3 days worth of defensive training, I hope he can do well. Daye was a gamble/project at the time, too bad he didn't pan out, who would have thought a former players son would have terrible BBIQ, which is really Daye's problem, he is stupid out on the court. How many times do you need to foul a 3-point shot before you figure out it isn't a good thing to do anyway?

Respectfully, there aren't many aspects of Singler's game that either best or match Daye's at this point in time. Daye's shooting, passing, rebounding, shot blocking and ball handling are all better. Singler may have a better mid-range offensive game, and we'll give him the nod for basketball IQ. Essentially, he's Joe Wolf. He's a player who will possibly grow into a rotation/glue guy, but his ceiling is low. The press is trying to bail out his heavy-legged play right now much the same way they tried to bail out Daye for playing in Russia last year. Singler's J is MIA right now and he hasn't shown much on the boards at all. At least he looks ready to shoot the ball on the swing unlike Middleton, who lacks fluidity.

Yes, Daye is going into his 4th year but he is still just 24--an age where a lot of projects start to figure it out. To give up on him now for even a second rounder doesn't make a lot of sense when our team could use his versatility and shooting. If you've watched him in summer league (have you?), you'll see a player who is playing good consistent basketball right now. He is a more complete player than I saw in summer of 09 in Las Vegas, and he's a player I'm sure has opened a few eyes of GM's this summer.

BTW, Lindsey Hunter played stupid on the court the first half of his career before he "figured it out". Watching him try to run the team his first few years in the league was mostly painful with some moments of eye-opening athletic ability thown in. The point is--players can improve, especially ones who entered the L as young and physically undeveloped as Daye.

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Respectfully, there aren't many aspects of Singler's game that either best or match Daye's at this point in time. Daye's shooting, passing, rebounding, shot blocking and ball handling are all better. Singler may have a better mid-range offensive game, and we'll give him the nod for basketball IQ. Essentially, he's Joe Wolf. He's a player who will possibly grow into a rotation/glue guy, but his ceiling is low. The press is trying to bail out his heavy-legged play right now much the same way they tried to bail out Daye for playing in Russia last year. Singler's J is MIA right now and he hasn't shown much on the boards at all. At least he looks ready to shoot the ball on the swing unlike Middleton, who lacks fluidity.

Yes, Daye is going into his 4th year but he is still just 24--an age where a lot of projects start to figure it out. To give up on him now for even a second rounder doesn't make a lot of sense when our team could use his versatility and shooting. If you've watched him in summer league (have you?), you'll see a player who is playing good consistent basketball right now. He is a more complete player than I saw in summer of 09 in Las Vegas, and he's a player I'm sure has opened a few eyes of GM's this summer.

BTW, Lindsey Hunter played stupid on the court the first half of his career before he "figured it out". Watching him try to run the team his first few years in the league was mostly painful with some moments of eye-opening athletic ability thown in. The point is--players can improve, especially ones who entered the L as young and physically undeveloped as Daye.

Have to say I disagree about Daye/Singler. The only things I think Daye does better is shoot the 3. In summer League, Singler showed me he is better defending on the ball, is stronger, and gets to the hole better. In the first 2 games, Singler showed an average shot with 3 point range, not as good as Daye's, but more likely to get a good shot off against NBA defense IMO. I know you keep talking about Singler's lack of athleticism, but IMO he looked fine out there and considerably more athletic than Daye. I also do think Singler's basketball IQ and work ethic are considerably better. I agree that his ceiling is as a rotation/glue guy, but I don't really see a spot where Daye fits in the long term plans of this team at all. He is too weak to play the 4 during the season, and with Drummond and the Ukranian at the 5, Monroe will be at the 4 basically all of the time he is in - probably 32-35 min. I see JJ getting time at the 4 before Daye, especially with our logjam at the 3. The only spot I see room for Daye is as a backup 2 shooting specialist where he could use his height to actually get the shot off. Of course whoever he is guarding would have a field Daye, and English will get those minutes anyhow IMO as he can both shoot and defend.

Since I see no way he is resigned for 2013-14, my hope would be that someone saw enough they like to trade any pick for him, or to have him included with Maxiel/Prince/Bynum in some package for a pick/player that could actually help (or if Prince was one of them, an expiring contract)

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I think it's crazy premature to start penciling in the Russian. He hasn't had his contract bought out, he was signed for very short money meaning there's no reason to force him into the line-up, and no one's ever seen him play in the NBA. Best off penciling in guys that are here and we've seen and hoping that Ivan makes a contribution then just assuming he's our back up center.

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I think it's crazy premature to start penciling in the Russian. He hasn't had his contract bought out, he was signed for very short money meaning there's no reason to force him into the line-up, and no one's ever seen him play in the NBA. Best off penciling in guys that are here and we've seen and hoping that Ivan makes a contribution then just assuming he's our back up center.

Ivan said himself he has signed, so the contract issue is done. As far as the C position, if he isn't ready to play 10-12 min, I still think between Drummond, Ben, Maxiel, Monroe, JJ - the 4 and 5 positions are pretty well taken care of.

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Have to say I disagree about Daye/Singler. The only things I think Daye does better is shoot the 3. In summer League, Singler showed me he is better defending on the ball, is stronger, and gets to the hole better. In the first 2 games, Singler showed an average shot with 3 point range, not as good as Daye's, but more likely to get a good shot off against NBA defense IMO. I know you keep talking about Singler's lack of athleticism, but IMO he looked fine out there and considerably more athletic than Daye. I also do think Singler's basketball IQ and work ethic are considerably better. I agree that his ceiling is as a rotation/glue guy, but I don't really see a spot where Daye fits in the long term plans of this team at all. He is too weak to play the 4 during the season, and with Drummond and the Ukranian at the 5, Monroe will be at the 4 basically all of the time he is in - probably 32-35 min. I see JJ getting time at the 4 before Daye, especially with our logjam at the 3. The only spot I see room for Daye is as a backup 2 shooting specialist where he could use his height to actually get the shot off. Of course whoever he is guarding would have a field Daye, and English will get those minutes anyhow IMO as he can both shoot and defend.

Since I see no way he is resigned for 2013-14, my hope would be that someone saw enough they like to trade any pick for him, or to have him included with Maxiel/Prince/Bynum in some package for a pick/player that could actually help (or if Prince was one of them, an expiring contract)

You are glossing over the fact that Singler didn't rebound well at all to go along with his disappointing outside shooting. Singler does have more of a 10-15 foot game, I'll give you that, but Daye was getting his midrange shot off the dribble nicely.

Perhaps we have different definitions of athletic, but we can agree to disagree on Singler's prowess afoot. Particularly in the last game v. Philly, Daye was getting position on defense, taking his man off the dribble, and even showing off some ball handling. At no time did I see Singler creating his own shot going towards the basket, but he can handle himself in the mid-post nicely.

Daye is still a man without a position, and the closest thing he has to one is SF. Does Dumars find a contender in need of a guy like Tay and take his chances with the three-headed SF of Maggette-JJ-Daye? With Tay not stepping up his scoring last year after signing a new four-year deal, it makes me wonder if Dumars took a look at JJ's production as a starter when Tay was out and thought, "For the money, what's really the difference?"

Dumars will definitely have to figure out the logjam at SF, and it would be wonderful if he could package Charlie V in such a deal. Maggette has some considerable value to a team who needs a top scorer off the bench, and his expiring contract make him even more attractive. Maybe once the dust settles from some of the major trades in progress we'll see him or Tay and someone like Bynum packaged together. One thing is for sure—Dumars will move one or more of Maggette, Bynum, CV, Daye, Prince, or maybe even Stuckey. I can't see us signing Middleton for action this year, his game doesn't translate into anything that can help us right now.

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I found it funny how draftexpress called Knight "Wild" and then called English "Aggressive". I guess it's all a matter of perspective. I thought Knight played pretty well overall. He's still a young guy learning the point. Yeah, he dribbled a bit too much, but he also made some nice plays. He's more of an offensive PG than a pure distributor and I'm fine with that. What I love is that he has no fear of getting into the lane. The kid was on the ground more times than I can count. There are plenty of guys like that in the league (Rondo, Parker, Westbrook, etc) and as Knight continue's to grow we'll see how it pans out for us.

As for the Singler vs Daye argument...

Here we go again with Daye playing well when it doesn't matter, much like his buddy, CV. We've already seen what happens to Daye when he's on the court with real NBA players. The only thing he gives you is his outside shot when he happens to be on - which is almost never.

He's horrible on the offensive end from a positioning standpoint. His passing is even worse. I've seen games where it's just turnover after turnover from him on stupid, easy entry passes. On defense it's even worse. He's an absolute liability out there at any position. He simply has zero bball IQ and doesn't learn from his mistakes.

There was a point in one of the games where you could see him pull Drummond aside and start to talk to him about something that happened on the court. I wanted to run out there, put my hands over Drummond's ears, and scream "la la la la, nobody's listening, la la la la". The last thing I want is Daye anywhere near this kid. Let's use Daye's Summer League play as a means to move him for just about anything.

On the other hand, with Singler you get a 4 year college, 1 year overseas, high bball IQ guy that can do a lot of things on the court. He has a clear position on the court and has a much better build than Daye. You can tell he's been working in the weight room. He plays better defense already, understands positioning, and is a hard worker. And although his shot wasn't perfect at summer league, by all accounts he's a solid outside shooter.

I want all of the soft, no defense, low IQ players off of the team. Daye and Charlie can hold hands while they skip their way out the door.

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I'm with you Betrayer...I like to see guys do well in these summer games but it doesn't make me think anything about how good they're gonna do in the NBA. Sure, seeing Drummond and English play well gives us high hopes but doesn't tell me how they're gonna look versus real nba players. Seeing Daye, a 4th year player do it doesn't even give me a glimmer of hope. I'm going to assume he finally "gets it" because he out played rookies and guys just hoping to make it as 12the men? If we can get something worthwhile for Daye then we should definitely trade him. Otherwise, he's a great 3rd string SF/PF off the bench but nothing else until he proves it during the season. Give Singler his minutes anytime over Daye.

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As for the Singler vs Daye argument...

Here we go again with Daye playing well when it doesn't matter, much like his buddy, CV. We've already seen what happens to Daye when he's on the court with real NBA players. The only thing he gives you is his outside shot when he happens to be on - which is almost never.

He's horrible on the offensive end from a positioning standpoint. His passing is even worse. I've seen games where it's just turnover after turnover from him on stupid, easy entry passes. On defense it's even worse. He's an absolute liability out there at any position. He simply has zero bball IQ and doesn't learn from his mistakes.

There was a point in one of the games where you could see him pull Drummond aside and start to talk to him about something that happened on the court. I wanted to run out there, put my hands over Drummond's ears, and scream "la la la la, nobody's listening, la la la la". The last thing I want is Daye anywhere near this kid. Let's use Daye's Summer League play as a means to move him for just about anything.

On the other hand, with Singler you get a 4 year college, 1 year overseas, high bball IQ guy that can do a lot of things on the court. He has a clear position on the court and has a much better build than Daye. You can tell he's been working in the weight room. He plays better defense already, understands positioning, and is a hard worker. And although his shot wasn't perfect at summer league, by all accounts he's a solid outside shooter.

I want all of the soft, no defense, low IQ players off of the team. Daye and Charlie can hold hands while they skip their way out the door.

So, Daye brings his game to summer league—with his future in the NBA on the line—and he is playing well when it doesn't matter? And Singler plays like his legs are stuck in quicksand and shoots up brick after brick and he gets a free pass? With that kind of spin, I feel like I'm watching a cable news network during the Iowa Caucuses.

It's okay to root for player to do well, and to hold a grudge against players for not producing when their team needs them. Lord knows I'll probably never forgive guys like Ryan Raburn, Larry Herndon, Gary Danielson, and Lindsay Hunter (for his first tenure with the Pistons) for seemingly only producing with little on the line.

But Daye showed out in Summer League. He didn't do it against front-line players, but he did it against guys who were hungry to prove themselves. And by showing up to play, by showing he could put together a string of hot-shooting games in a featured role, he did the Pistons a favor. His contract is gtd, he could have just sat our summer league and gotten paid. But he didn't, he showed up and showcased his best side for all the teams there to see.

Sometime before the trade deadline, teams will need a shooter and they will remember what Daye did in July even if he isn't in the rotation come November. If Detroit is lucky, they may be able to squeeze a 1st rounder out of him in a trade. If they are really lucky, Daye will continue to show he can score like he did in summer league through the fall and he'll provide us with a valued shooter off the bench.

Even if he never produces for us again, what he did last week was important. Until Singler is battle-tested in the NBA, he's done nothing important for this franchise. Daye has played with the Pistons during arguably the most trying time the franchise has seen since the days of Dick Vitale. What Singler did in college and overseas isn't completely irrelevant, but if he fails in the NBA he won't be the most talented and ballyhooed college star not to make it there (in fact, far from it). If he can find a role in the NBA, then great—the league needs low-ceiling/high effort guys like Joe Wolf, Bill Curley, and Eduardo Najera. Thing is, we already have a better version of that in Jerebko. To me, Singler shouldn't see much of the court unless JJ goes down. The kind of shooting Daye displayed in summer league, however, is something we haven't seen in some time here in Detroit.

I'm interested to see how it all plays out during camp, but to be sure, I'm not writing off Daye just yet just as I'm not buying Singler having the upper-hand on cracking the rotation.

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I have to say, I've read a lot of the Summer League press and watched all but one of the games and the only place I see negative commentary about Singler's Summer League performance is in your posts.

He played only 3 of the 5 games, was the best player on the team in Game 1, was pretty good in game 2, and had a bad game 3. And you've already written him off?

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Didn't Daye light up the summer league in the past too? We all know his regular seasons have turned out after that...

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Didn't Daye light up the summer league in the past too? We all know his regular seasons have turned out after that...

Daye was our best player last pre-season too. He does this every time and then sucks once real games starts. Its like clockwork.

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Game 1 was the only game I missed, so maybe if I would have watched it I would have seen a player who could shoot, move, rebound and defend like an NBA 3. The rest of the games, and I saw the rest of the games, he looked like a rookie who needed to improve his speed and endurance to compensate to his lack of athleticism. When the legs are gone, the jumper doesn't fall and this was happening to Singler. Mechanically, he has a very good looking shot with good ball rotation.

I'm not writing off Singler, but he needs to show me he's a willing rebounder at the NBA level before I'd want him in the rotation even occasionally. I would much rather have Prince, Jerebko and Maggette taking the bulk of the 3 minutes. English is good enough to give minutes at the 2 this year, I believe, to the point where Maggette should be able to play the majority of his minutes backing up Prince Unless English completely craps out in camp, his defense and 3 point shooting are what I would rather have in there rather than singler's mid-range offensive game. Unless he is traded immediately or likewise gets injured, Maggette/Jerebko is about as good of a 3 off the bench as you could hope for. In the event Prince were traded/injured, Jerebko were injured, if Maggette is hurt/traded, then you get into Daye/Singler minutes.

Next season's rotation candidates:

C: Drummond/Wallace (if he returns)/Slava

PF: Monroe/Jerebko/Maxiell/

SF: Prince/Maggette/Jerebko

SG: Stuckey/Maggette/English

PG: Knight/Stuckey/Bynum

That's 11 players counting Wallace, 10 players without him. Ten players is, by most accounts, an extended rotation. We still have CV, Daye and Singler who will fight over that last dress spot if Wallace comes back, and one will be left out if he doesn't as it stands.

Where's the room for Singler in the rotation? Bynum isn't the best pg around, but he's NBA tested and he deserves to dress. There will be situations where we need him in, possibly when Knight is getting owned by a faster pg.

What does he do that nobody else on the team does? It seems our new owner doesn't want to give CV the big "A", so do you think he will just not dress him in hopes somebody wants him at the trade deadline praying that he's in game shape? Is Daye being shopped hard right now after showing he can shoot again in SL?

Without further moves being made by Dumars, almost to the point of creating a playing time exclusively for Singler, there aren't any minutes for him. From what I saw in summer league, I just can't see how he holds enough value to a rotation to do that. If by some miracle they can move both CV or Daye and Prince out of town, then there would be room for him to get some burn.

This is why I said before that if Singler cracks the rotation we are in serious trouble. IMO, then we'll be playing for the lottery this season. Our rotation may not be great, but I think it is good enough to play .500 ball in the Eastern Conference. Who knows, maybe playing for the lottery is what Gores has in mind in spite of what he says in the press?

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Daye was our best player last pre-season too. He does this every time and then sucks once real games starts. Its like clockwork.

By last pre-season you mean 2011, right? There was no summer league that season. And because I saw him in 2009 in Vegas a few times, I can't see how he was our best player in pre-season that year either. So you're talking 2010-2011 was perhaps as being "every time"? Yeah, that season we a throw-away for pretty much the whole team sans Monroe.

Even still, Daye showed flashes of playing good ball that year but didn't finish the season strong as a scorer (he rebounded when he got the minutes, though).

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And Singler plays like his legs are stuck in quicksand and shoots up brick after brick
If they are really lucky, Daye will continue to show he can score like he did in summer league through the fall and he'll provide us with a valued shooter off the bench.
The kind of shooting Daye displayed in summer league, however, is something we haven't seen in some time here in Detroit.

Daye shot 51% in summer league.

Singler shot 50% in summer league.

Therefore, everything you've said about Daye's shooting must also apply to Singler and all of the things you said about Singler's shooting being poor could only be correct if you applied them to Daye as well. If he shot poorly, then so did Daye. That 1% difference is not significant.

In addition, Daye still looked lost on defense. Singler did not. He understands positioning on the court and he understands team ball. You could see that from his play off the ball.

Bottom line is neither of them should be starting or even getting significant minutes, but if you give me the choice of who I want sitting on the bench next to my young players and possibly getting 10 minutes every other game, it's the hard working, team player like Singler all day long. When his shot isn't falling at least he will still give you effort, defense, and bball IQ. Daye gives you whiny tweets.

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This team needs a backup SG and/or PG. Maggette is not a 2 and I don't want to count on Bynum as our 3rd guard, or English.

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This team needs a backup SG and/or PG. Maggette is not a 2 and I don't want to count on Bynum as our 3rd guard, or English.

I think Joe's plan is that Stuckey will slide over and take the PG minutes when Knight goes to the bench. Then you have Maggette or English at the SG. When Knight comes back in, Stuckey sits down, and you still have Maggette or English at the SG until Stuckey is ready to come back. Rinse. Repeat.

Not a huge fan of Stuckey at the point, but I'm guessing that's the plan.

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I think Joe's plan is that Stuckey will slide over and take the PG minutes when Knight goes to the bench. Then you have Maggette or English at the SG. When Knight comes back in, Stuckey sits down, and you still have Maggette or English at the SG until Stuckey is ready to come back. Rinse. Repeat.

Not a huge fan of Stuckey at the point, but I'm guessing that's the plan.

this can't be the plan is what I'm saying. Who knows what a 2nd rounder will give you and Maggette is not a SG. I'll never get the Stuckey hate myself. Yah, he's not a plus shooter or playmaker. If he was, he'd be a bar none superstar, why can't we take him for what he is?

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this can't be the plan is what I'm saying. Who knows what a 2nd rounder will give you and Maggette is not a SG. I'll never get the Stuckey hate myself. Yah, he's not a plus shooter or playmaker. If he was, he'd be a bar none superstar, why can't we take him for what he is?

Nas, I think Betrayer is right—it seems like that's the plan.

Maggette will have to slide over to SG occasionally to get his minutes, unless Jerebko's role is going to be cut back.

I think the Stuckey hate is a byproduct of clearing Billups out of town to make him the PG of the future . . . with Stuckey never panning out at PG. Just a guess, because his production isn't bad.

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FanDuel Michigan - Get a $1,000 risk-free bet at FanDuel Michigan on your first bet.

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BetMGM Michigan - Get a $600 risk-free bet at the BetMGM online casino & sportsbook

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