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Predictable as the tides, I wish I'd thought to see if their was anywhere you could wager on who would pick him. The Raiders were probably 1:1 odds anyway...

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I know its funny because its the Raiders, but looking at your average draft, 3rd round is very reasonable. Pat White and Drew Stanton went high 2nd round. Armanti Edwards, a solid ATH/QB type from App St. who wasn't half the talent Pryor is went 3rd round and had a 2nd rounder traded for him.

All I'm saying is lets not overreact. Pryor probably isn't a QB, but he did make HUGE improvements this past year in his QB stats. If he is even a Brad Smith type, he is well worth a 3rd. If someone can find a way to win a few games with a Tyler Thigpen or Dennis Dixon, Terrelle PRyor certainly has some sort of role in this league. People make him out like Jamarcus Russell but he has never been known to be into the type of scene that Russell was into and I have never heard that he is lazy. Totally different circumstances.

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I know its funny because its the Raiders, but looking at your average draft, 3rd round is very reasonable. Pat White and Drew Stanton went high 2nd round. Armanti Edwards, a solid ATH/QB type from App St. who wasn't half the talent Pryor is went 3rd round and had a 2nd rounder traded for him.

All I'm saying is lets not overreact. Pryor probably isn't a QB, but he did make HUGE improvements this past year in his QB stats. If he is even a Brad Smith type, he is well worth a 3rd. If someone can find a way to win a few games with a Tyler Thigpen or Dennis Dixon, Terrelle PRyor certainly has some sort of role in this league. People make him out like Jamarcus Russell but he has never been known to be into the type of scene that Russell was into and I have never heard that he is lazy. Totally different circumstances.

What do you mean by scene Russell was into?

All Pryor did was lie, got his coach fired, accepted illegal gifts, etc. That's not too bad.

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Pryor screwed up! No doubt and no debate. But pryor may have been a high first round pick if he had played this year and Ohio State placed in a national poll at 5 or better.

Telling ya, Pryor is a helluva athlete! I think he can play QB.... Has to be in the right system, Lions are not that kind of system.

Raider's may have gotten lucky on this one.

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I think he can play QB...

What makes you think he can play QB in the National Football League?

Is it his arm strength .. which is so bad, it makes Tim Tebow look like Tom Brady -- what?

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Pryor could be a bust, but he also has a lot of potential.

This is the problm here with sports in the US... I know he isnt getting the 10 million dollar contract, but really? Giving kids million's of dollars because they have potential, shouldnt they have to earn and show they are worth the money first? I am sick of hearing in press conferences "he is developing" or "he needs to adjust to the game" for that kind of money they better be able to step in and perform. Maybe this is a signal to our youth programs more than anything, not preparing kids better.

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This is the problm here with sports in the US... I know he isnt getting the 10 million dollar contract, but really? Giving kids million's of dollars because they have potential, shouldnt they have to earn and show they are worth the money first?

If the player "has potential" the team is taking a gamble, because there's uncertainty about how far that potential will develop in the future. So if you have a player with "potential" to become a $10 million / year superstar, but he might never get there, he obviously isn't worth $10 million / year. But potential is worth something, and what it's worth depends on how likely the team thinks he is to reach that potential. Teams will get burned on some of these picks that don't pan out, and they'll also be richly rewarded on the ones that do.

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Pryor screwed up! No doubt and no debate. But pryor may have been a high first round pick if he had played this year and Ohio State placed in a national poll at 5 or better.

Telling ya, Pryor is a helluva athlete! I think he can play QB.... Has to be in the right system, Lions are not that kind of system.

Raider's may have gotten lucky on this one.

What makes you think he can play QB in the National Football League?

Is it his arm strength .. which is so bad, it makes Tim Tebow look like Tom Brady -- what?

Honestly, the times I have watched Pryor, which is his entire career at OSU, Pryor has fine arm strength. Pryor's weakness in my opinion is that he is such a good runner that he will not allow passing lanes to develop before he tucks the ball and run. From what I have seen and heard, Pryor has had great sucess in doing this so it has been hard for coaches to break him of that habit. Pryor has made some outstanding athletic plays for OSU. Think about it, how often did you see Cam Newton make a throw that you said to yourself, "No one else could have done that!" Newton is far from a finished QB in the NFL. But Newton has tremendous athletic ability with some questionable decision making. Newton was drafted #1 based as much on his unrealized potential. I'm not going to say Pryor is as athletic as Newton, but honestly, I don't think he is that far behind him. Pryor has a weaker arm than Newton, but his arm strength is certainly good enough for the NFL. Pryor will have to mature as a young kid and take the NFL seriously, which I think he will. Pryor will need a couple of years to study and practice to become a better than average NFL QB and might become a special NFL QB in my opinion.

That is why I think the system as well as patiences will be critical for Pryor's development. The Raider's do seem to be the type of team that can adjust the team to fit Pryor as opposed to someone like the Lions who have developed a classic drop back type of offense with Stafford. If Pryor isn't rushed into a starting position before he is mentally ready, I think Pryor will have a long career as a starting QB in the NFL.

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Pryor does not have very good arm strength, that coupled with the lack of decision making skills that is demanded of an NFL QB=Pryor won't be good, just like Tebow.

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What do you mean by scene Russell was into?

All Pryor did was lie, got his coach fired, accepted illegal gifts, etc. That's not too bad.

Fine, Pryor's spoiled and a bit of an A-hole. He's not an over partying drug addict(codeine) who fails to prioritize football by any reports I have ever heard. Things like that were already said about Russell in college. Pryor seems like a hard worker and willing learner from what I hear. This isn't about comparing them morally, its about comparing what they will do as football players. What Pryor did is indicative of nothing that will hurt his NFL career.

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What makes you think he can play QB in the National Football League?

Is it his arm strength .. which is so bad, it makes Tim Tebow look like Tom Brady -- what?

Pryor has some issues. Standing in the pocket, setting his feet and generally throwing accurately, no doubt about it. His arm strength is quite good though.

Either way, people need to not analyze this move based on whether Pryor can be a franchise QB or not.

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I'm a little confused.... where are some of you guys getting the idea that his arm strength is less than average? I've not seen that and I have not heard that from any credible source?

Help me out, I would really like to know what authority is saying he has no arm strength?

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I'm a little confused.... where are some of you guys getting the idea that his arm strength is less than average? I've not seen that and I have not heard that from any credible source?

Help me out, I would really like to know what authority is saying he has no arm strength?

He was constantly under-throwing deep balls throughout his career at OSU.

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His fundamentals are more of an issue than natural arm strength. He throws off his back foot, doesn't step into throws etc. He's closer to a rocket than a noodle with his feet set. That doesn't mean he'll ever learn to utilize it though.I'm not really defending him.

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His fundamentals are more of an issue than natural arm strength. He throws off his back foot, doesn't step into throws etc. He's closer to a rocket than a noodle with his feet set. That doesn't mean he'll ever learn to utilize it though.I'm not really defending him.

So is he uncoachable or didn't Tressell have a decent QB coach on his staff?

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He was constantly under-throwing deep balls throughout his career at OSU.
His fundamentals are more of an issue than natural arm strength. He throws off his back foot, doesn't step into throws etc. He's closer to a rocket than a noodle with his feet set. That doesn't mean he'll ever learn to utilize it though.I'm not really defending him.
So is he uncoachable or didn't Tressell have a decent QB coach on his staff?

These three quotes will sum up Pryor. The Tressel passing game requires the Wr to come back to the ball unless it is just a fly pattern. Pryor is good at that. So first quote, you just didn't understand the formations being used... no biggie!

Nasty - You are right, mechanics are poor or maybe more accurately, lazy! Pryor has so much natural talent that he gets lazy because he knows with his talent and the talent that OSU had, he could get away with it! That won't work in the NFL.

Gehrig - Your right, of all the good assistants that Tressell had, the QB coach was the youngest and "in training" to be a top assistant.

I'm telling you guys... if OSU didn't get blown up by the NCAA, OSU would of been one of the favorites to win the national title.... then where do you think Pryor gets drafted? See Cam Newton as far as what a national title can do for you. I think Cam newton is a superior athlete, but many of the same issues apply to both of these guys.

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So is he uncoachable or didn't Tressell have a decent QB coach on his staff?

Just raw IMHO and may or may not have the natural talent in his arm to be a great QB. However, I think he showed pretty good improvement at such fundamentals by his junior year. He definitely could have used his senior year, but I think he has some potential to develop into an NFL QB. What the odds are I'm not quite sure, but I think he could at least a Ryan Fitzpatrick type potentially. He actually reminds me of a faster Jason Campbell which is ironic.

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Regardless of his natural talent or all his flaws...he will never become anthing as long as he's in Oakland. They change coaches too often, so much so that no respectable or creditable coaches will work there. So, he will receive substandard coaching with frequent turnover...that's a death sentence for a raw QB that has to be developed. It's no doubt the reason they trade so many draft picks away, because they can't develop talent.

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Pryor's arm was barely good enough for the Big Ten. I highly doubt it is good enough for the NFL.

You see, this here .. this is not an opinion. It's fact!

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Ok so apparently he scored higher than 7. On the second try, anyway. Basically the same as what happened with Vince Young. Lol @ wonderlic (and lol @ me for posting this).

UPDATE: Pryor tweets, "Funny thing is I scored a 22 on my Wonderlic. Get it right ask @RosenhausSports."

Steelers GM Kevin Colbert, who administered the test, says Pryor took the test a second time the next day, which is not uncommon. He does not deny the score of seven on the first try, but the second try was "significantly higher." Only the higher score "counts" for NFL purposes, much like the SAT.

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