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If people still don't understand that players or managers betting on baseball is wrong, then I don't think there's much more that can be said about this. It's like explaining that putting your head into a 600 degree pizza oven is a bad idea and getting a lot of ifs ands and buts from some idiot who thinks it's not so bad after all.

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If people still don't understand that players or managers betting on baseball is wrong, then I don't think there's much more that can be said about this. It's like explaining that putting your head into a 600 degree pizza oven is a bad idea and getting a lot of ifs ands and buts from some idiot who thinks it's not so bad after all.

That's sort of where I'm at on it, too. You can say the same thing only so many times before you have to conclude it's not even being considered.

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I think this is a calculated move by Dowd and perhaps others. He's not stupid enough to drop this bomb without proof, is he?

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I hate Pete as much as anyone but I'm not going there without any kind of proof.....

This presents a dilemma. I hope it's not true but then it hurts Dowd's credibility big time.

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So there's this. Of course Pete denies it. Of course he denied betting on baseball for almost 30 years too.

Pedophile Pete?

Funny how this comes out around the same time when Pete is gaining a minimal amount of traction in coming back to the game. Being embraced. Didn't he just get a couple standing ovations recently?

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I hate Pete as much as anyone but I'm not going there without any kind of proof.....

This presents a dilemma. I hope it's not true but then it hurts Dowd's credibility big time.

I doubt Dowd drops this bomb without some proof.

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yeah that's what I'm thinking... that's a criminal act with real victims. They deserved justice. To have it and not act is as much of a crime in my opinion.

Those are bombs you just don't throw.

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Here's the problem, in my opinion...

No matter what happens, this will hurt Dowd, and therefore the case against Rose.

If there was sufficient evidence of this and Dowd sat on it, that looks really bad. Why would he sit on this when there is strong evidence of a pedophile out there? Why risk further damage to more innocent children?

If there was scant evidence from one person that was not backed up by any other evidence... in other words, insufficient evidence to act on it, then why is Dowd talking about it now? It only makes it look like Dowd has a grudge against Rose and wants to tarnish him any way he can.

If I had to guess, my feeling is that there probably wasn't strong proof that Rose was engaging in acts with minors. Possible that there was some level of extra circular activity going on and it may or may not have involved minors. It's also possible that MLB specifically tried to hush up that said... maybe it was semi-common place back then?

All in all, I think this will damage Dowd's credibility more than it will damage Rose.

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So what do people think or ol Petey on the MLB Network? He has been up there with Frank Thomas and A-Rod etc etc. He reminded me of an old gangster....like Joe Pesci from Goodfellas.

He gets crap from A Rod all the time on the show from what i have seen, but one of the guys asked him how many hits he got and he replied with 'more than anyone else'...and then added that he had more than A-Rod AND Frank Thomas combined. I thought it was a little funny, but I keep expecting him to pull out a spoon that was sharpened and shank A Rod or one of the other guys.

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For a brief moment the Sketchers ad made Pete a likable human being. Then when seen unscripted I remember what a vile person he is.

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So what do people think or ol Petey on the MLB Network? He has been up there with Frank Thomas and A-Rod etc etc. He reminded me of an old gangster....like Joe Pesci from Goodfellas.

He gets crap from A Rod all the time on the show from what i have seen, but one of the guys asked him how many hits he got and he replied with 'more than anyone else'...and then added that he had more than A-Rod AND Frank Thomas combined. I thought it was a little funny, but I keep expecting him to pull out a spoon that was sharpened and shank A Rod or one of the other guys.

MLB Network or Fox Sports 1?

I would be surprised if MLB Network hired Pete Rose.

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MLB Network or Fox Sports 1?

I would be surprised if MLB Network hired Pete Rose.

Yeah I think it is FS1. I do not watch it much, but yeah FS1.

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So what do people think or ol Petey on the MLB Network?

He seems to have taken up the drunk uncle schtick that has turned me off to some of the NFL pregame shows.

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what value does Pete bring to the shows? Does he offer anything insightful? THe few bits I've seen were putrid. Like when Drew and Mike would talk to Denny McLain. Totally worthless.

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what value does Pete bring to the shows? Does he offer anything insightful? THe few bits I've seen were putrid. Like when Drew and Mike would talk to Denny McLain. Totally worthless.

Yeah, I don't think he's brought anything, but I suppose it's possible I might have missed something after I tuned him out.

I don't have a problem with a looser format if I am getting some knowledge out of it. MLBN does a pretty good of this, I think.

Rose offers nothing aside from train wreck viewership ratings.

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I am amazed that Pete Rose has not murdered someone by now. He has that sociopathic personality.

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I am amazed that Pete Rose has not murdered someone by now. He has that sociopathic personality.

Well. As far as we know.

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what value does Pete bring to the shows? Does he offer anything insightful? THe few bits I've seen were putrid. Like when Drew and Mike would talk to Denny McLain. Totally worthless.

He brought a lot to twitter. The Rose photo bomb meme is hilarious.

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The ban continues

MLB commissioner upholds Pete Rose's ban from baseball

Pete Rose's stay in baseball purgatory continues, and it appears he has himself to blame.Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred issued a statement Monday denying Rose's request for reinstatement, issuing a four-page decision that showed Rose continues to bet on baseball to this day and didn't even disclose that to the commissioner in September until pressed.

The denial means the lifetime ban that began in 1989 after Rose was caught gambling while managing his hometown Cincinnati Reds stays in place, keeping Rose from the Hall of Fame.

"I've heard from (Commissioner) Manfred directly, and he has denied our application to reinstate Pete, which is very disappointing," Rose's lawyer Raymond Genco told The Enquirer.In a statement, Genco said that "Pete's fall from grace is without parallel. He also recognizes it was also of his own making."

"While we may have failed at our task of presenting all the facts to the Commissioner demonstrating how Pete has grown and changed over the past three decades, Pete indeed has meaningfully reconfigured his life- the standard laid out by as Commissioner Giamatti," Genco said in the statement. "As such, Pete seeks to be judged not simply by the mistakes of his past - but also by the the work he has done over the last 3 decades in taking responsibility for his actions - constantly working to remain disciplined, compassionate and grateful."

Genco said Rose would not comment until he meets with the media in his own restaurant in his adopted hometown of Las Vegas Tuesday morning.

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