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Tigers Acquire Fister and Pauley for Furbush, Wells, Francisco Martinez and a PTBNL

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Roy Halladay put up a lot of 5 K/9 seasons in Toronto while walking about 1.0-1.5 per 9. It wasn't until he got into his 30's till he started striking out 7 or more per 9. Halladay only averages about 91-93 on his fastball.

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I do give DD a lot of credit for finding players that don't 'fit' in management's eyes of other teams.

Edwin Jackson / TB FIP,

Fister / Seattle starting pitching,

Betemit / KC Moustakas

DY / Minn Revere, Span, $$

Peralta / Cle Asdrubal, $$

Not that these were bad for the other team, but it let Detroit fill holes without paying that premium you sometimes have to when you are semi-desperate to fill a gaping hole.

You forgot Polanco & Guillen.

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I love Fister as much as anyone, and I actually did predict that he would remain a good #3/borderline #2 starter once he got to Detroit (you're right pyro, I should be a GM). His Cliff Lee-esque pace with Detroit isn't going to last, though. His K/BB right now is 12. TWELVE. That's just straight up bonkers. Cliff Lee does it because he consistently has command that even Fister doesn't quite have yet, with an extra dose of stuff. Fister would have to take some significant steps forward. I know Lee took those steps forward, but Lee always had more projectable stuff and great command earlier in his career (aside from that bizarre one year).

If Fister manages to take that step forward, it would be one of the most astonishing career paths a player has ever taken, and this trade would rate among one of the greatest heists in baseball history. And as much as I love Fister, I'm just not seeing historic potential here.

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No one expected him him to put up strikeout numbers like this. These numbers are in line with an ace pitcher. I doubt he keeps that up. My first impression at the time of the trade was that the tigers grabbed a legit #3 pitcher and that moving from Seattle to Detroit wouldn't have as much of a negative effect as many believed. I loved the trade at the time and I feel the same way today. Can't wait to see him in October.

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I've seen some Brad Radke comparisons for Fister.. pretty interesting.

FanGraphs' Dave Cameron made the Brad Radke comparison in a flattering piece today:

It’s Time We Stop Underrating Doug Fister | FanGraphs Baseball

I am a Mariiner fan who is happy that Doug Fister has a shot at the 2011 postseason. It would be a long journey from remote Longview, Washington, where I saw Fister and Seattle teammate Josh Wilson at a cheesy Mariner Caravan appearance in January. I later saw Fister in a losing start aganst the Royals in Spring Training on March 25, and in starts in my only two trips to Safeco Field this season: a loss to the White Sox on May 7 and a no-decision (an eventual Seattle win) against the Angels on May 19.

I'm not a special fan of Fister, but the tall righthander kept showing up every time I turned around this year. Tiger fans should enjoy four more years.

Edited by harmony

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I'm very excited to have him locked in for the next 4 years as well. I'd look to lock up both he and Scherzer into their first year of fA if possible.

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Well, I'm feeling better now... after Well started with Seattle on such a tear, he's come back down to earth...

He's hitting only .220. His OPS is only .739. I certainly don't wish him ill luck... he is originally from Grand Rapids... so I gotta kinda pull for him. But I'm also glad we didn't give up a budding super star.

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No one expected him him to put up strikeout numbers like this. These numbers are in line with an ace pitcher. I doubt he keeps that up. My first impression at the time of the trade was that the tigers grabbed a legit #3 pitcher and that moving from Seattle to Detroit wouldn't have as much of a negative effect as many believed. I loved the trade at the time and I feel the same way today. Can't wait to see him in October.

Well said. I really love this deal, especially since he is under team control for a few years. Nice deadline pickup, but also will pay dividends in the future (without giving up too much IMO).

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I don't want to let myself expect Cliff Lee type results, but its not impossible either given this guy's natural ability to pitch combined with his stature and stuff(not great, but good enough combined with all else). Nobody saw Lee being more than a MOR lefty command guy either before he broke out.

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Furbush had a solid outing for Seattle today. Had a shutout through seven and has given up two so far in the 8th. Like Fister, he gets no run support in Seattle. No one can say the trade wasn't worth it, so I bump this to the top just to say it's nice to see former Tigers do well.

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If Fister continues for the next 4 years what he has done this year, nobody will care much what we gave up. That said, any or all of the 4 players given up could become productive major leaguers or more. It will continue to be an interesting trade to look back on for a while into the future.

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To support this... the Mariners gave him all of one hit support last night. Fister has to get down on his knees every night and thank God he does not have to put up with that EACH time he pitches.

Furbush had a solid outing for Seattle today. Had a shutout through seven and has given up two so far in the 8th. Like Fister, he gets no run support in Seattle. No one can say the trade wasn't worth it, so I bump this to the top just to say it's nice to see former Tigers do well.

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I don't want to let myself expect Cliff Lee type results, but its not impossible either given this guy's natural ability to pitch combined with his stature and stuff(not great, but good enough combined with all else). Nobody saw Lee being more than a MOR lefty command guy either before he broke out.

I disagree. He was recognized as having really good stuff and command throughout his career, and was the #30 prospect in all of baseball in 2003. Guys don't get that distinction without having top of the rotation projection. Of course, there were a lot of doubts when he had that period where he was randomly atrocious, but as a prospect he was a big deal.

Fister, on the other hand, was a complete non-prospect until 2009. His rise is already completely unexpected and remarkable. If he managed to keep up his goofy Tigers numbers, it would be historic.

Here's a Fister scouting report from right before his first MLB callup. You'd think they were talking about Virgil Vazquez or something:

Prospect Insider - Doug Fister, RHP

Edited by The Truman Show

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