sabretooth 237 Posted October 29, 2010 On a more positive note, Inge is Man of the Year.Tigers’ Brandon Inge named Marvin Miller Man of the Year | freep.com | Detroit Free PressHe's such a bad guy.I'm sorry, but you need to reserve your Inge comments to the Inge thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaYooperASBDT 20 Posted October 29, 2010 I'm sorry, but you need to reserve your Inge comments to the Inge thread.Damn you. You actually made me look. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Titus Tiger 12 Posted October 29, 2010 yea, I thought we were in the peewee herman thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KleShreen 10 Posted October 30, 2010 Tigers continue to reward mediocrity, Brandon Inge | freep.com | Detroit Free PressSpot on. God I hate Inge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catswithbats 12 Posted October 30, 2010 Tigers continue to reward mediocrity, Brandon Inge | freep.com | Detroit Free PressSpot on. God I hate Inge.Inge is "the greatest symbol of mediocrity and ineptitude of the organization"? I don't like Inge, but I'm not sure I agree with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jake 10 Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) Tigers continue to reward mediocrity, Brandon Inge | freep.com | Detroit Free PressSpot on. God I hate Inge.BaseballAmerica.com: Majors: Best Tools: Major League Best Tools Edited October 30, 2010 by jake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walt 323 Posted October 30, 2010 BaseballAmerica.com: Majors: Best Tools: Major League Best ToolsThis loses credibility after you look at the SS entry below 3b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sabretooth 237 Posted October 30, 2010 Tigers continue to reward mediocrity, Brandon Inge | freep.com | Detroit Free PressWhat a load of crap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaYooperASBDT 20 Posted October 30, 2010 BaseballAmerica.com: Majors: Best Tools: Major League Best ToolsDefense doesn't count, Jake, remember? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaYooperASBDT 20 Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) What a load of crap.Citing his zero Gold Gloves was sheer brilliance, lol. Any baseball fan with a clue knows that the Gold Glove award is worthless. He also conveniently overlooked how few errors Inge had in 2010, and failed to propose any alternatives to Inge whatsoever. Edited October 30, 2010 by DaYooperASBDT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jake 10 Posted October 30, 2010 2010 Regular Season MLB Baseball 3B Fielding Statistics - Major League Baseball - ESPNWhile fielding percentage isn't a great stat, it's interesting that Brandon had the best fielding percentage in the AL because all of his detractors say how he blows too many routine plays. Plus, of the 3 main categories (%, zone rating, range factor), Inge was better than Longoria and Beltre in 5/6 categories. . . and that was with major surgery on 2 knees. I understand the frustration that is a Brandon Inge at bat, I get that, but to criticize the man's defense is just plain ignorant. He's a superstar fielder. It's a shame, we have just one pitcher who can get anyone to hit a ground ball to 3b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gehringer_2 2,379 Posted October 30, 2010 2010 Regular Season MLB Baseball 3B Fielding Statistics - Major League Baseball - ESPNWhile fielding percentage isn't a great stat, it's interesting that Brandon had the best fielding percentage in the AL because all of his detractors say how he blows too many routine plays. Plus, of the 3 main categories (%, zone rating, range factor), Inge was better than Longoria and Beltre in 5/6 categories. . . and that was with major surgery on 2 knees. I understand the frustration that is a Brandon Inge at bat, I get that, but to criticize the man's defense is just plain ignorant. He's a superstar fielder. It's a shame, we have just one pitcher who can get anyone to hit a ground ball to 3b.Yup, how the fixed knees play out eventually with respect to his range may be unknown, but no question that the better throwing base went a long way toward improving accuracy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jake 10 Posted October 30, 2010 Defense doesn't count, Jake, remember?Not on message boards. Until you get fantasy points for DP's started, assists, putouts, etc., defense in baseball will go largely unrecognized. If Inge got fantasy points for those things the last 5 years, he'd have been the #1 3b pick in the draft every year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KleShreen 10 Posted October 30, 2010 I don't care how good of defense he plays when his offense costs the Tigers WAY more runs every year than his defense saves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tiger337 2,858 Posted October 30, 2010 Not on message boards. Until you get fantasy points for DP's started, assists, putouts, etc., defense in baseball will go largely unrecognized. If Inge got fantasy points for those things the last 5 years, he'd have been the #1 3b pick in the draft every year.I once played in a fantasy league where they used double plays. DP isn't a good stat for real baseball but it's a good fantasy stat, because it gives more value to middle infielders who are sometimes ignored in fantasy baseball. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tiger337 2,858 Posted October 30, 2010 2010 Regular Season MLB Baseball 3B Fielding Statistics - Major League Baseball - ESPNWhile fielding percentage isn't a great stat, it's interesting that Brandon had the best fielding percentage in the AL because all of his detractors say how he blows too many routine plays. Plus, of the 3 main categories (%, zone rating, range factor), Inge was better than Longoria and Beltre in 5/6 categories. . . and that was with major surgery on 2 knees. I understand the frustration that is a Brandon Inge at bat, I get that, but to criticize the man's defense is just plain ignorant. He's a superstar fielder. It's a shame, we have just one pitcher who can get anyone to hit a ground ball to 3b.UZR and DRS are better than range factor and zone rating:Major League Leaderboards » 2010 » Third Basemen » Fielding Statistics | FanGraphs Baseball Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sabretooth 237 Posted October 31, 2010 I don't care how good of defense he plays when his offense costs the Tigers WAY more runs every year than his defense saves.Ratings from fangraphs (hitting is inclusive of positional adjustment, but not including adjustment vs. replacement players):2006: hitting +1.5/fielding +192007: hitting -11.5/fielding +11.22008: hitting -6.2/fielding +4.12009: hitting -5.6/fielding +6.62010: hitting -1.9/fielding +3.3I'd say he's filled an important position reliably at a pretty reasonable price, and while he hasn't made a big apparent contribution towards winning since 2006, he's never hurt the team performance-wise either, contrary to what you suggest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john doe 10 Posted October 31, 2010 Ratings from fangraphs (hitting is inclusive of positional adjustment, but not including adjustment vs. replacement players):2006: hitting +1.5/fielding +192007: hitting -11.5/fielding +11.22008: hitting -6.2/fielding +4.12009: hitting -5.6/fielding +6.62010: hitting -1.9/fielding +3.3I'd say he's filled an important position reliably at a pretty reasonable price, and while he hasn't made a big apparent contribution towards winning since 2006, he's never hurt the team performance-wise either, contrary to what you suggest.+1 A voice of reason and intellect in our midst. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downinthezone 10 Posted October 31, 2010 While fielding percentage isn't a great stat, it's interesting that Brandon had the best fielding percentage in the AL because all of his detractors say how he blows too many routine plays. .J Peralta 100 games @ 3B in 2010, .982 FPCTO Viquel 83 games @ #3B in 2010 .979 FPCTB Inge 144 games @ 3B in 2010 .977 FPCTArod 124 games @ 3B in 2010 .976 FPCT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaYooperASBDT 20 Posted October 31, 2010 Remember guys, major league third basemen fall from the trees like the leaves of Autumn.Even Don Kelly would be a better option there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Titus Tiger 12 Posted November 1, 2010 Remember guys, major league third basemen fall from the trees like the leaves of Autumn.Even Don Kelly would be a better option there. who is this Don Kelly, can we get him -- what is his OE% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thefunk 131 Posted November 1, 2010 I'm so sick of waiting for the World Series to be over so we can start making some of these moves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
