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This thread is full of teh lulz.

The chances of the Tigers having two of Lee, Greinke, Hanley or Crawford is approximately absolute zero. If sportz wasn't in the penalty box, he'd be going off about Playstation right about now.

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This thread is full of teh lulz.

The chances of the Tigers having two of Lee, Greinke, Hanley or Crawford is approximately absolute zero. If sportz wasn't in the penalty box, he'd be going off about Playstation right about now.

he's probably at home doing it anyways...

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Pods: .302/.349/.385 11 2B 7 3B

Crawford: .297/.349/.472 25 2B 8 3B

Seems to me you leave stats out that are detractors from your argument. Crawford has twice the XBH Podsednik has.

the only stats i really care about at the 1 or 2 spot are...in order...on base %, stolen bases.

doubles and triples are nice, but if you can get on base for the 3-4 hitters to knock you in, and you've got the speed to run the bags, i'm pleased.

i wouldn't pay 15 mil extra for those extra doubles and triples at least.

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nah..this thread is a WOT..not worth the thought.

i knew you were out there!

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nah..this thread is a WOT..not worth the thought.

I think you should take a weeklong summer vacation from MTS every year.

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Podsednik has now had two very good years in a row. The man deserves more respect.

as i remember, he was also regarded as one of the best lead off men in baseball before having a little slump leading up to the last two seasons.

and, his wife is like sports illustrated cover hot. how bad could he really be?

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SIGNINGS:

1) *trade - Greinke? - 10 mil?

2) Konerko - 7.5 mil?

3) Buck - 5 mil?

4) Ordonez - 5 mil?

5) Pavano - 5 mil?

6) Podsednik - 5 mil?

7) Inge - 5 mil?

8) Peralta - 5 mil? (i can't remember what his exact option is)

...it sounds like we're going to have about 60-70 mil coming off the books, and this plan would be about an additional 50-60 mil, so i don't think that it's at all unrealistic.

EXPLANATIONS:

catcher - i'd love to get vmart, but it's going to be tough to steal him from the red sox coming off a bad season. the next best option, imo, is john buck. i know that he's not a great defensive catcher...but i think that plus defense at that position is sort of overrated. and i know that he's having a career-year average wise, but he's always had power, and it'd be nice to have someone with power behind the plate again (mickey tettleton?). if we really think that avila is our catcher of the future (barf), than ramon hernandez might be a wise cheap signing.

third base - i'd love to steal beltre, but again, it's going to be tough to steal him from the red sox coming off a bad season. unfortunately, there aren't a lot of great options left after him. it'd be great to steal infante back here (as it would at second or short as well), but the braves have an option on him, and i don't see them passing on it. betemit is putting up an outstanding average in kansas city, but in limited at bats. vizquel is having another solid season in chicago, but he'll probably retire, right? inge is probably our best option here.

short stop - i'd love to steal reyes or jeter here, but, reyes has a team option and jeter's not leaving, so, moving on. again, the options are slim here. renteria's probably the best one out there, and i don't see us doing that again. so, again, our best option here is probably peralta/santiago. lots of people are talking about trading for hanley on the board, but personally, i'd rather see us use those assets on a front line starting pitcher.

left/right fielder - personally, i think that crawford and werth are both overrated. if it's speed at the top of the order we want, i'd rather go cheaper with podsednik. if it's a bat in the middle of the order we want, i'd rather go cheaper with magglio. if boesch continues to tail-spin...which seems to be the case...i'd like to see us go after both.

designated hitter - one option here is moving guillen to dh and adding a better second basemen. but, i think we'd be better off with guillen at second and a nice new bat at dh. the best option here is konerko. he's putting up mvp-like numbers and would be a real steal at 35. it'd also be nice to steal a rivals' best bat. if we can't get him, i'd love to see us go after guerrero. if we can't get him, watch out, because luke scott's a free agent, he's having a tremendous season, and we've always been interested in him.

second base - guillen's probably the guy here, but he's so injury prone. it might be a good idea to release him and steal hudson from the twins. but for now, i'll just assume that we're going with him, santiago, and rhymes/sizemore at second.

pitching - it sounds like the big dogs will all be out in full force to get lee...so...whatever, moving on. the best of the rest, i think, is pavano. he's really showing signs of having a second wind this season. last i checked his WAR was like 3rd or 4th amongst AL pitchers. kenny rogers part two. i think we've got enough mlb-ready prospects in the bullpen to not need to add anyone significant in the bullpen (at least in the off-season), regardless of zumaya's status.

trades - i'd much rather see us use the assets we're talking about giving up to get hanley on a front-line starting pitcher like josh johnson, or maybe more realistically, on zack greinke. i think we could get him without giving up porcello. maybe something like turner + boesch/oliver/streiby + ???'s. i'd do it.

LINEUP:

LF: *Podsednik (L)

CF: Jackson ®

RF: Ordonez ®

1B: Cabrera ®

DH: *Konerko ®

C: *Buck ®

2B: Guillen (S)

SS: Peralta ®

3B: Inge ®

BENCH:

BC: Avila (L)

SS: Santiago (S)

CF: Raburn ®

UT: Boesch (L)

ROTATION:

SP: Verlander

SP: *Greinke

SP: Scherzer

SP: Porcello

SP: *Pavano

BULLPEN:

CL: Valverde ®

SU: (?) Zumaya ®

SU: Coke (L)

MR: Perry ®

MR: Schlereth (L)

MR: Weinhardt ®

LR: Bonine ®

let's please ignore this sam guy for the moment and bring focus back to the original post.

#1) i was being really, really broad with the dollar figures, so let's not nit-pick there. i intentionally exaggerated some and low balled others so that the total dollar figure would be somewhat accurate.

#2) trade, for a front-line starting pitcher, thoughts? maybe it won't be someone of greinke's caliber, but a turner/oliver/streiby is most definitely enough to get us a potential top three starter. any other ideas? wouldn't you rather have another one of those as opposed to hanley ramirez (which probably costs us porcello as well)?

#3) buck at catcher, thoughts? v-mart's not going to leave boston. torreabla is starting to slip back into regular form. ramon hernandez might be a nice option? but i'd prefer to have someone that's going to, at the very least, give us power at a position where there isn't much of it to go around for the next 3-4 yrs.

#4) dh options. i'd really like to steal konerko, but it might be hard to steal him from chicago. i really like vlad as a backup option, but again, the rangers new ownership group might be willing to spend. at the very least i think we can get luke scott. take a look at his numbers if you haven't already. hitting right around .300 with 24 or so homers i think.

#5) of options. why does everyone think that magglio is absolutely done with the tigers? he looked like he was back in stride all season. his injury wasn't that serious, was it? and he's not going to get THAT big of a salary, is he? i'd certainly rather have him than spending big on werth.

...and crawford, i'm well aware that he's a better player than podsednik at the top of the order. you don't need to argue with me on that (so, please, stop). the question is whether or not he is 15 mil/season and for probably 5 more yrs than podsednik. i think not. you?

#6) sp options. no one's even commented on pavano. i think that'd be a really great bargain signing. thoughts?

#7) ss/3b. does anyone see a better combination than peralta/santiago/inge out there on the free agent market, because i don't, and i'm not happy about that.

Edited by blueadams

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as i remember, he was also regarded as one of the best lead off men in baseball before having a little slump leading up to the last two seasons.

and, his wife is like sports illustrated cover hot. how bad could he really be?

Bad..so bad..I would throw 3 straight fastballs over his head..dusting him each time..then hit him square in the middle of the back with the 4th pitch.

I would then remind him if he ever takes that running girls softball swing against anyone, anywhere, the next time I will aim for his helmet.

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Bad..so bad..I would throw 3 straight fastballs over his head..dusting him each time..then hit him square in the middle of the back with the 4th pitch.

I would then remind him if he ever takes that running girls softball swing against anyone, anywhere, the next time I will aim for his helmet.

LOL

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I'd rather...

1) Trade: SP Turner, SP Oliver, DH Guillen, $9,000,000 of Guilen's contract, LF Boesch, 2B/SS Sizemore, and 2 hitting prospects to Seattle for Felix Hernandez and Chone Figgins.... I know this seems like an awful trade by Seattle, but they are probably going to be rebuilding after this year and 8 class 'A' prospects may be too much to resist.

2. Sign LF Carl Crawford: 6 years / $110,000,000

3. Sign C John Buck: 3 years / $15,000,000

4. Sign LHP Ted Lilly: 3 years / $35,000,000

5. Sign DH Jim Thome: 2 years / $8,500,000

6. Sign RF Austin Kearns: 3 years / $17,250,000 deal

7. Sign LHP Scott Downs: 2 years / $8,000,000

8. Re-sign 3B Brandon Inge: 3 years / $11,000,000

9. Re-sign LHP Bobby Seay: 1 year / $600,000

10. Pick up Jhonny Peralta's $7,000,000 option

11. Let Gerald Laird, Johnny Damon, Magglio Ordonez, Jeremy Bonderman, and Brad Thomas walk

Projected Lineup

1. Austin Jackson, CF

2. Carl Crawford, LF

3. Jim Thome, DH

4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B

5. Austin Kearns, RF

6. John Buck, C

7. Brandon Inge, 3B

8. Jhonny Peralta, SS

9. Chone Figgins, 2B (speed at bottom)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -

C Alex Avila

IF Danny Worth

IF Ramon Santiago

UTIL Don Kelly / Ryan Raburn (earn it in March)

Projected Rotation

1. Felix Hernandez, RHP

2. Justin Verlander, RHP

3. Max Scherzer, RHP

4. Ted Lilly, LHP

5. Rick Porcello, RHP

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

RHP Ryan Perry

RHP Phil Coke

RHP Eddie Bonine (Spot Starter)

LHP Scott Downs

LHP Daniel Schlereth

LHP Bobby Seay

RHP Jose Valverde (CP)

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I like Crawford and Lilly, but Thome has one foot in the baseball grave, IMHO.

Buck - I fear he's having a flukish year, my vote would be for Yorvit Torrealba (should be cheaper?)

Kearns - has had one decent year in his entire career, and is often injured. I would pass.

King Felix - dang I'd love to get him.

Peralta - sucks.

Edited by DaYooperASBDT

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I'd rather...

9. Re-sign LHP Bobby Seay: 1 year / $600,000

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Bobby Seay was to have surgery this past week on his shoulder. He is out until late next season at best. His career may be over.

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