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Yet, Raiola is purely athletic and Backus, although not overly athletic, certainly isn't a mauler......neither is Jason Fox , nor Gandy....they have a serious lack of depth on the OL and the problem is , there are too many holes to fill on this team and not enough talent.

I think the Lions have more talent on their line than this draft has to offer. The biggest problem with the line is Peterman's health right now, which I think is causing him problems; he's cheating, and its easy to see. He needs to be healthy, and if the play doesn't improve, then he needs to be replaced. I think Gosder has had a great year, and deserves some accolades for his play.

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I think the Lions have more talent on their line than this draft has to offer. The biggest problem with the line is Peterman's health right now, which I think is causing him problems; he's cheating, and its easy to see. He needs to be healthy, and if the play doesn't improve, then he needs to be replaced. I think Gosder has had a great year, and deserves some accolades for his play.

I'd give Peterman a pass on his play, he played much better last year, but not on the penalties. I'd give the whole line a pass for a few weeks on penalties, being that there was a different QB that they aren't familiar with, but at this point they're unexcusable and something needs to be done.

Gosder and Sims have been bright spots for the line IMO, Goz is finally starting to show some consistancy and why he was touted as a quality tackle when he was drafted.

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Cherilus is playing much better and Sims has been better than any of the past few seasons LG's but still there is a huge problem......I don't see a healthy Peterman as the answer, solely.....The running game has had so many breakdowns, missed blocks, poor decisions and penalties....Some change is needed....I understand the contractual obligations but the play of the line doesn't match the contracts they are being payed....Developing draft choices, finding a UDFA and getting lucky or signing a Free agent but , I think, it does need to be upgraded.

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Cherilus is playing much better and Sims has been better than any of the past few seasons LG's but still there is a huge problem......I don't see a healthy Peterman as the answer, solely.....The running game has had so many breakdowns, missed blocks, poor decisions and penalties....Some change is needed....I understand the contractual obligations but the play of the line doesn't match the contracts they are being payed....Developing draft choices, finding a UDFA and getting lucky or signing a Free agent but , I think, it does need to be upgraded.

He may not be THE answer, but if he plays like he did last year, he's not the problem either. The best teams draft C/G late and develop them, we need to start there. I would like to see a replacement for Dom though, there's no excuse for his $h!tty play, just need someone that better fits our scheme. I bet a team like the Colts would love to have him.

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And the idea that you know more about quarterbacks than NFL scouts is also ludicrous. This is supposedly what scouts are saying. We will know more when the season is done.

If you show me a "scout" who has said that, I might change my mind.

Here's a hint: people said the same thing about Stafford when he came out. They say the same thing about every QB who will be the #1 pick. The Lions already have a guy who was "the next John Elway" at one time. Why would they waste their resources on drafting another one when they have other holes to fill?

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After watching today, it really doesn't matter what position they draft.......

They aren't far away. For three quarters they were the better team today. They blew up completely in the fourth, but that happens. They aren't very far away from turning the tables. They just need to keep selecting the best available talent.

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I'm just not sure...one step forward and four back.....now CB is a question after watching a professional team dismantle A. Smith...LB, we may need four in total....need a safety, back-up QB, fullback, two WR's, OL.....................

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CB was a question before the season and the Lions don't need a backup QB, fullback or two WR.

I beg to differ, Stafford, Hill and ????, Felton isn't a real FB and Bryant Johnson and Derrick Williams should be gone.....A QB, A FB, and two WR's !

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There's teams in the NFL that don't even have a true FB on their roster. I don't understand what your ? argument means. They don't need to draft WR. They have one of the best and a competent number 2.

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There's teams in the NFL that don't even have a true FB on their roster. I don't understand what your ? argument means. They don't need to draft WR. They have one of the best and a competent number 2.

They run out of the "I" formation with a lead back, a blocking FB would be of use......They have Calvin Johnson and Nate Burleson, yes, but they have no depth, hence draft or sign reserves.

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They do NOT need a QB.

They do NOT need (2) WR's.

They do NOT need a lead-blocking FB.

They NEED:

Better O-lineman. Cherilus might be good. Sims is good. Peterman might play better when he is healthier. No franchise LT in the draft, so unless one is available and wants to sign with Detroit as a FA (pushing Backus to backup all along the O-Line - best sitch possible for the Lions...), then the only way to improve here is to find an instant starter at Center in the 3rd-5th rounds (or FA as well, I guess) who can open holes and stop monster NT/DT's better than Raiola can. That'll be a trick.

BTW: Better run-blocking O-Line = better holes, better run game. Felton is fine. The RB's are OK. Get them better holes and see what happens...

A shut-down CB. Luckily for them their are two at the top of this next draft, right where they are selecting. That would push A Smith to nickel. I think he might excel there. The only wrench in this plan is if they decide on a monster DE at the top of the 1st...

Not certain about Spievey at safety... but he had alot of tackles today... (couldn't see the game... don't know how he played...). I'm guessing we're fine at safety, for now.

Two monster LB'ers. Peterson's old and don't know yet about Levy. They'll do for now... but they need help. At the top of the 2nd/ 3rd... they should be able to find at least 1 decent tackling/ coverage machine at LB'er.

(1) 3rd down WR. Whether Derrick Williams ever turns into that or not... will determine our need there. 3rd/4th round.

One offseason. I think that's all we need, and I have confidence that Mayhew will find these players. In fact, I'm guaranteeing playoffs next year. That's how confident I am that this team is on the verge of a turnaround.

Just guessing here (FA and trades can change our needs), I see next draft going something like:

1 - CB

2 - LB

3 - WR

4 - C (do we still have our 4th?)

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They do NOT need a QB.

They do NOT need (2) WR's.

They do NOT need a lead-blocking FB.

They NEED:

Better O-lineman. Cherilus might be good. Sims is good. Peterman might play better when he is healthier. No franchise LT in the draft, so unless one is available and wants to sign with Detroit as a FA (pushing Backus to backup all along the O-Line - best sitch possible for the Lions...), then the only way to improve here is to find an instant starter at Center in the 3rd-5th rounds (or FA as well, I guess) who can open holes and stop monster NT/DT's better than Raiola can. That'll be a trick.

BTW: Better run-blocking O-Line = better holes, better run game. Felton is fine. The RB's are OK. Get them better holes and see what happens...

A shut-down CB. Luckily for them their are two at the top of this next draft, right where they are selecting. That would push A Smith to nickel. I think he might excel there. The only wrench in this plan is if they decide on a monster DE at the top of the 1st...

Not certain about Spievey at safety... but he had alot of tackles today... (couldn't see the game... don't know how he played...). I'm guessing we're fine at safety, for now.

Two monster LB'ers. Peterson's old and don't know yet about Levy. They'll do for now... but they need help. At the top of the 2nd/ 3rd... they should be able to find at least 1 decent tackling/ coverage machine at LB'er.

(1) 3rd down WR. Whether Derrick Williams ever turns into that or not... will determine our need there. 3rd/4th round.

One offseason. I think that's all we need, and I have confidence that Mayhew will find these players. In fact, I'm guaranteeing playoffs next year. That's how confident I am that this team is on the verge of a turnaround.

Just guessing here (FA and trades can change our needs), I see next draft going something like:

1 - CB

2 - LB

3 - WR

4 - C (do we still have our 4th?)

Obviously, I said they needed a QB after Stafford and Hill, You even siad they need a WR, I say two....and a FB is needed..... I never said that was THE primary need....just one of many....

If you had read the previous posts , you would have read the OL discussion, the LB's and the DB's !

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Petersen or Amukamara with our 1st pick. No if's, and's or but's.

after seeing Phonz responsible for 4 TD's today I would say this statement couldn't be truer. I like Phonz. It would be nice to have a true #1 with Phonz and Houston (not necesarally in this order) would Improve our DB's immensely.

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We could certainly use a shut down corner but I think we could also use an elite defensive end. Avril is inconsistent when he is on the field. VB is getting old and although he is a workhorse, we need to supplement him with a younger guy to give him a breather every once in a while.

If the Lions end up with a top five pick, which is looking more and more likely, I think you take the best player between Peterson, Bowers, Quinn, and Amukamara. I would rank them in that order.

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Petersen or Amukamara with our 1st pick. No if's, and's or but's.

Peterson is by far the preferred nomenclature. (Too anybody else.)

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Peterson is by far the preferred nomenclature.

Certainly he is more talented. I question his character a little bit. But the talent difference is enough I would not even hesitate to take him ahead of Prince.

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Certainly he is more talented. I question his character a little bit. But the talent difference is enough I would not even hesitate to take him ahead of Prince.

I don't see the questionable character. His play of late, he's been really tough, and has played really hard. I wanted to see him play more physically, and that's what he did. He's dominating right now with his size and speed combo, he's like having Suh at corner.

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I definitely agree that Petersen is best. I just don't think that we'll be in any position to take him. I do expect us to win some more games which would keep us out of his presumed draft slot. That, of course, is assuming that we don't make any trades.

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I don't see the questionable character. His play of late, he's been really tough, and has played really hard. I wanted to see him play more physically, and that's what he did. He's dominating right now with his size and speed combo, he's like having Suh at corner.

McShay does not give him a good grade for intangibles and he is normally very generous with these grades to the elite players. Also, I was not at all impressed with the Heisman pose he struck earlier this year. Not much to go on I know but when you are taking a player that high, you want to look at everything...obviously.

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Trade down. The more picks the better.

It would be pretty tough to convince me that Lions could have done better by trading down last year than they did with taking Suh.

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