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There are other reasons to root for Seattle.

Such as:

Rooting for a 7-9 team to make it into the playoffs.

And I win $75 bucks in my pickem league. So go Seahawks.

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I wouldn't be too surprised if Mayhew and Schwartz traded up to the 5th spot (Arizona) if Peterson is availible.

Arizona needs a Quarterback above everything else. Luck (barring injury or an epic combine fail) might as well be gone... The next two QB possibilities are in Jake Locker and Ryan Mallett, both are not top 5 players... I am positive (again barring injury, epic fail, or Sam Bradford combine) that one if not both will be there at #14.

Give them our 1st round pick, our 4th round pick, and a 2012 3rd round pick, and call it done. All we need (other than CB, OLB, and SS) that can be aqcuired in rounds 4-7 is depth.

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I wouldn't be too surprised if Mayhew and Schwartz traded up to the 5th spot (Arizona) if Peterson is availible.

Arizona needs a Quarterback above everything else. Luck (barring injury or an epic combine fail) might as well be gone... The next two QB possibilities are in Jake Locker and Ryan Mallett, both are not top 5 players... I am positive (again barring injury, epic fail, or Sam Bradford combine) that one if not both will be there at #14.

Give them our 1st round pick, our 4th round pick, and a 2012 3rd round pick, and call it done. All we need (other than CB, OLB, and SS) that can be aqcuired in rounds 4-7 is depth.

1) Petersen won't be there at 5.

2) If by some grace of god he is, it will cost a lot more than a 1st and a 4th and a 3rd.

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1) Petersen won't be there at 5.

2) If by some grace of god he is, it will cost a lot more than a 1st and a 4th and a 3rd.

Panthers take Luck, Broncos take Fairley, Bills take Green, Bengals take Bowers...

Whatcha think it would take then? Would you accept it?

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I just ran the SOS percentages for all the 6-10 teams, nothing changed. Looks like they get lucky number 13.

Seattle Wins:

Pick	Team			Wins	Losses	SOS
7 San Francisco 49ers 6 10 0.488
8 Tennessee Titans 6 10 0.508
9 Dallas Cowboys 6 10 0.512
10 Washington Redskins 6 10 0.516
11 Houston Texans 6 10 0.523
12 Minnesota Vikings 6 10 0.539
13 Detroit Lions 6 10 0.543

St Louis Wins:

Pick	Team			Wins	Losses	SOS
7 San Francisco 49ers 6 10 0.488
8 Seattle Seahawks 6 10 0.492
9 Tennessee Titans 6 10 0.508
10 Dallas Cowboys 6 10 0.512
11 Washington Redskins 6 10 0.520
12 Houston Texans 6 10 0.523
13 Minnesota Vikings 6 10 0.539
14 Detroit Lions 6 10 0.547

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Panthers take Luck, Broncos take Fairley, Bills take Green, Bengals take Bowers...

Whatcha think it would take then? Would you accept it?

Petersen goes two to the Broncos.

Let's remember, it cost the Browns a first and a second round pick to move up one spot to take Kellen Winslow. It would cost multiple number one picks to move up from 14 to 5. The Lions don't have the ammo.

To get into the top 5 from #14 will probably cost them two #1s and a 3rd or 4th.

whatever it is, it is likely to be too expensive. The Lions need picks, not mortgaging everything for one player.

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Now's the time to point out that even if a good corner starts falling Minnesota needs a CB even worse than the Lions. So it's most likely the Lions will need to fill CB in free agency or after their first pick.

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I think it's pretty safe to say that LB or CB will be the 13th pick if the Lions stay there. I'm assuming Peterson and Prince will be gone by 13th, so who are we looking at? I'm thinking LB if there is one worthy enough. The secondary has serviceable players with Houston, Smith, Delmas, and Spievey. They could really use some speed at OLB to help against the run.

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I think it's pretty safe to say that LB or CB will be the 13th pick if the Lions stay there. I'm assuming Peterson and Prince will be gone by 13th, so who are we looking at? I'm thinking LB if there is one worthy enough. The secondary has serviceable players with Houston, Smith, Delmas, and Spievey. They could really use some speed at OLB to help against the run.

Pretty sure Akeem Ayers and Von Miller are the top two linebacker prospects right now. Miller is supposed to be a 3-4 guy, so it could be Ayers.

I'd rather see them trade down.

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Pretty sure Akeem Ayers and Von Miller are the top two linebacker prospects right now. Miller is supposed to be a 3-4 guy, so it could be Ayers.

I'd rather see them trade down.

Ayers is a toothpick.

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Let's hear about:

Von Miller

Bruce Carter

Akeem Ayers

Robert Quinn

Cameron Jordan

Ryan Kerrigan

Derek Sherrod

Nate Solder

Anthony Castonzo

Janoris Jenkins

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What, no coin flips with the other 6-10 teams ??

Nope. From what I understand, it's based on SOS and the Lions played a tougher schedule than the other 6-10 teams. Someone with more knowledge than me will have to fill you in on the specifics, but I do know that they're picking 13th.

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What, no coin flips with the other 6-10 teams ??
I just ran the SOS percentages for all the 6-10 teams, nothing changed. Looks like they get lucky number 13.

Seattle Wins:

Pick	Team			Wins	Losses	SOS
7 San Francisco 49ers 6 10 0.488
8 Tennessee Titans 6 10 0.508
9 Dallas Cowboys 6 10 0.512
10 Washington Redskins 6 10 0.516
11 Houston Texans 6 10 0.523
12 Minnesota Vikings 6 10 0.539
13 Detroit Lions 6 10 0.543

No need, there are no strength of schedule ties.

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Let's hear about:

Von Miller (3-4 OLB) - played OLB in 2008, 3.5 sacks in 2008, ## (3-4 OLB), very athletic, fast, 4.50? very good quickness, physical, blitzes, good burst off the ball, does a good job anticipating the snap count, explodes off the edge, closes well, very solid arsenal of moves, good up and under move, nose for the ball, looks reasonably comfortable in space when he actually drops into coverage, good flexibility and COD, good body control, bends the corner well, stays low, can play w/ leverage, raw technique, relies too much on his speed, wastes time and effort trying to run around blockers, not very strong, can be pushed off his angle of attack, can be run at, doesn't shed well, seems to excel only against weaker competition, 16.5 sacks in 2009, ## was 2009 a fluke? (needs to put on some weight and improve versus the run to crack top 32), LEFT 2010 season opener w/ minor right ankle injury, (played a few games early in the season on bad ankle), plays hurt, tough, doesn't drop into coverage much but looks okay when he does, solid bullrush, generates reasonably good power at POA, lacks the strength to hold up if run at, can be pushed pass the pocket, needs to show that he can play in space, lots of dbl teams, stays low, good bend, good balance, good COD, (has really come to life the second half of the season), good arsenal,

Bruce Carter - 5 sacks and 11 TFL in 2008, good athlete, heady, good suddenness, fast, 4.50? long arms, very good range, goes sideline to sideline quickly, covers a lot of ground, good flexibility and body control, does a nice job in coverage, solid not great instincts, can read and react quickly, reasonably good awareness, does a good job in transition, closes on the ball quickly once he gets moving, reasonably good strength at POA, gets off blocks reasonably well, plays w/ leverage, can chase down most ball carriers, solid tackler, can be a little slow reacting to the ball, not real strong, (my #3 OLB and ranked #47 in 2010), ## very athletic, good quickness, very solid tackler, very solid in coverage, does a nice job wrapping up, questionable instincts, doesn't get off blocks well, can be tied up by single blocker, will give up on play once engaged by larger blocker, not much of a downhill player, (needs to be protected by some big bodies!), (Combine workout warrior?), OUT due to ACL surgery and will miss Bowl Game, will also miss Combine and Pro workouts! this will likely hurt his Draft stock but I don't know how much, he was a 1E prospect prior to surgery!

Akeem Ayers - starting SLB in 2009, athletic, good speed, good quickness, very good agility, very solid instincts, good range, solid drops in coverage, disruptive, attacks the pocket, makes plays in the backfield, closes quickly, good hitter, good strength, good power, gets to the ball, playmaker, good motor, competitive, stays active, over runs the pocket at times, marginal wrap-up tackler, a bit of a gambler, 14.5 TFL and 6 sacks and 4 INTs in 2009, scored three defensive TDs in 2009, ## starting OLB in 2010, athletic, good quickness, agile, good closing burst, passrusher, very solid in coverage, active versus the run, gets after the QB, playmaker, good hitter, lacks natural instincts, disappears for long stretches during games, takes some plays off, not especially physical, (played better in 2009),

Robert Quinn - starting DE in 2008, athletic, good length and long arms, very quick, very good first step, fires off the ball, 4.58? good acceleration, closes on the ball quickly, reasonably good strength, solid bull rush, can collapse the pocket, stays low, plays w/ good pad level, flattens out on the corner, bends the corner well, needs to get a little strong versus the run, ## athletic, gets after the QB, extremely good initial burst, closes well, good closing burst, makes plays in the backfield, plays the run well, uses his hands well, good tackler, good hitter, does a good job stripping the ball, gets off blocks reasonably well, hard worker, good growth potential, even with all the talent on the North Carolina DLine Quinn saw a lot of dbl teams in 2009, good flexibility and body control, good agility, doesn't drop into coverage much, not especially strong at POA, average bullrush, doesn't always get off blocks cleanly, 11 sacks and 19 TFL in 2009, (my #1 DE and ranked #7 in 2010), ## suspended for the 2010 season for NCAA rules violation 09/02/10, was my #5 overall prospect prior to suspension! character concerns! how much will his involvement with an agent hurt his Draft stock?

Cameron Jordan - (good bloodlines, father is former NFL TE Steve Jordan), talented, athletic, good length w/ long arms, reasonably good quickness, very solid lateral mobility, very solid initial burst, plays the run well, forces the action inside, good upper body strength, reasonably good anchor, good balance, does a nice job shedding blockers, gets a little too high in his pass rush, lacks any real suddenness, doesn't always play w/ leverage, inconsistent, doesn't always play to his potential, 8 sacks in 2009, ## potential, starting DE and DT and 3-4 DE in 2010, plays the run well, good anchor, does a nice job stacking and shedding, sets the edge well, does a good job maintaining containment, explosive, good strength, reasonably long arms, uses his hands well, strong lower body, puts his head down when making a power move and doesn't keep his eye on the ball,

Ryan Kerrigan - former TE, ## 7 sacks in 2008, long arms, good strength at POA, very solid leverage, very solid versus the run, good containment, holds the edge well, very good motor, pursues the ball, hard worker, gives good effort, competitive, steady, consistent, good instincts, ## good motor, solid short area quickness, uses his hands well, does a good job stripping the ball, good initial quickness but doesn't possess an explosive burst off the ball, not always very physical, plays too high, can be washed out of play when he gets too upright, looks awkward in space, doesn't possess very good lateral mobility, 66 tackles and 11 sacks and 17 TFL in 2009, ## coming back from broken foot, hard worker, reasonably good strength at POA, nice bullrush, uses his hands well, good hand punch, can jolt OLmen off their feet, good upper body strength, physical, relentless, good motor, good speed, makes plays in the backfield against the run, can play through dbl teams, good awareness, keeps his head up and locates the ball, strong hands, plays a little high, lacks good lower body strength, a little stiff, doesn't play in space much, can be run at,

Derek Sherrod

Nate Solder

Anthony Castonzo

Janoris Jenkins - can be physical, good speed, lockdown CB, ## tasered and arrested for resisting arrest during a fight 06/01/09, coverman, does a good job left on an island, puts his body on the receiver, forces receivers off their routes, good tackler, (looked a little better in 2008 as a freshman), ## coverman, good hips, closes quickly, plays the ball well, does a solid job coming up in run support, confident, competitive, shadows receivers downfield, very solid tackler, very solid in run support, inconsistent, while he is very willing to play physical he will be out-muscled in the NFL, (will miss Bowl game due to minor shopulder surgery),

Those are my notes for them. I don't do OL myself but my colleague has scouting reports for the three of those guys:

Sideline Scouting - Offensive Tackles

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Another name I'd like to hear more about

Ryan Williams

started in 2009 when Darren Evans was out w/ knee injury, talented, explosive, good burst through the hole, excellent acceleration in the open field, hits the hole quickly, cuts extremely well, patient runner, very solid reciever, runs a little high, not a tackle breaker, ## rotates with Evans in 2010, slasher, good balance, seems to be running w/ some hesitation, injured his hamstring 09/19/10, OUT for 09/25/10 game, hamstring injury is hurting his 2010 season! was a 1C prospect prior to hamstring injury,

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