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Id do the first one, get Wes Johnson around 4-5 where our first pick is to replace Tay, and then get maybe someone like Patrick Patterson with the other pick. Go into next year with Stuckey-Rip-Johnson-Patterson-Brand with Gordon, Bynum, Daye, Max and Jerebko off the bench. I dont know, still not a great team but still not nearly as bad as this year. Although you would be playing with 2 power fowards and no real center. Maybe try to move rip for a center, I dont know but I still like that roster better than what we got now. Maybe you could get Greg Monroe with that pick if he falls a couple, he might be able to play center. Or maybe Hassan Whiteside

No concern about Brand and his age, salary, injury situation, or his lack of production? Or do you think they will suck the next 2-3 years anyway, why not get the extra pick?

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No concern about Brand and his age, salary, injury situation, or his lack of production? Or do you think they will suck the next 2-3 years anyway, why not get the extra pick?

At this point I might trade Prince for a lottery pick by itself, so adding him in order to get the pick isnt that big of a deal to me. And if he somehow stays healthy its a bonus. I think you can get a player with as much value as Tayshaun has, or even more in the 10-12 pick range in this years draft.

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The Koufous deal I would consider, the brand deal absolutley not. The idea is to get younger, build a base, let the team grow. Remove expensive contract in exchange for inexpensive (rookie) contracts..

There are always teams with financialissues who wuld love to not have to pay a draft chice guaranteed money.

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I'd be all over that Stuckey move.

You could grab Cousins or Favors with the 5th pick and then grab Whiteside with the Knicks pick. If you can keep Ben for one more year to be the veteran presence, then your frontcourt is looking solid for next year with all kinds of potential for years to come. With Jerebko, Max, and CV still in the mix at the PF, you have all kinds of options to play with here.

At SF you still have three young guys that are growing in Jerebko, Daye, and Summers. That gives you the leverage to move Tay for a PG. And Tay's contract becomes increasingly tradeable as the year goes on.

That addresses the major areas of concern (PG, Frontcourt), and you still have the MLE to work with.

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Here are the teams I would target if they want to buy a pick.

#19 Portland - The Roy and Aldridge extensions kick in next year. Might not want another guaranteed contract on the books.

#20 and #22 OKC - Much like Portland, this team is about to get expensive too. Plus with 2 picks so close together, I doubt they want to add 2 new guaranteed deals to the books. I bet one is for sale.

#26 New Jersey - This would be their second pick in the first round. Picks count against the cap the second they are drafted. If they want to make a run at 2 expensive FA's, this pick could be for sale.

#27 and #29 Memphis - This would be their 2nd and 3rd pick of the first round, so at least one is for sale most likely. Pretty deep in the draft though, so not sure anyone would be worth buying here.

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Here is a possible twist

Johnson Says He's Leaning Toward Staying at Syracuse -- NCAABB FanHouse

SALT LAKE CITY -- When it finally was over, all Wes Johnson could do was pull his jersey up and hold it with his teeth.

Later, he would retreat to a corridor, standing by himself and trying to hold back tears after he had taken his uniform off following Syracuse's surprising 63-59 loss to Butler in Thursday night's NCAA West Regional semifinal at EnergySolutions Arena.

The question now is: Will Johnson ever again don his Orange jersey?

Johnson is a top NBA prospect. NBADraft.net rates him No. 3 in its 2010 mock draft and draftexpress.com has him No. 8.

With those kind of projections, you'd think the 6-foot-7 junior small forward would be a lock to come out. After all, he has been in college for four years anyway, playing two years at Iowa State and sitting out last season as a transfer before being the Big East Player of the Year in his one season with the Orange.

Share7 But Johnson said after the tough defeat he's leaning toward coming back for his senior season at Syracuse.

"Losing like this is very hurtful,'' Johnson said. "It makes me lean toward going back to school. So I don't really put too much thought about going to the next level.''

Johnson was asked if the top-seeded Orange losing this early in the tournament makes it more likely he will stay as opposed to if they had made a deep tournament run.

"Yeah,'' he said. "Nobody likes to lose, especially to lose like this, the way we played with all those turnovers. But it's really undecided (going to the NBA).''

Even though Johnson did talk about leaning toward a return to Syracuse, Orange coach Jim Boeheim isn't putting much stock into that. Boeheim didn't want to talk about Johnson's situation after the game because he said top underclassmen always say right after tournament losses about leaning toward returning, and one can't accurately gauge the situation until some time has passed.

It might be hard for Johnson, who totaled 17 points and nine rebounds Thursday to finish with seasonal averages of 16.5 points and 8.5 rebounds, to turn down NBA money. Not only is he likely a top prospect, but the league could have a lockout in 2011-12, which could leave players taken in the 2011 draft looking for somewhere to play.

Still, it sounds as if Johnson carefully will analyze the situation.

"I'll talk to [boeheim] and my family, and see what the best decision is for me,'' said Johnson, not giving a timetable on when those talks will occur.

If Johnson does leave after one Syracuse season, albeit four total years of college, it wouldn't be anything new for Boeheim. Current NBA players Carmelo Anthony and Donte Green left for the NBA after one Syracuse season, and that was after each was a freshman.

He will probably still enter the draft, probably just caught in the moment right now

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Here is a good article and why I think most guys will end up entering the draft.

Winderman: Draftees wait until 2011, no checks until 2012 - ProBasketballTalk - Basketball - NBC Sports

Winderman: Draftees wait until 2011, no checks until 2012

As the field of 65 shrinks, expect the field of 60, namely the June 26 NBA Draft, to significantly expand.

While the preliminary results still favor the college game, with Greg Monroe vowing to return to Georgetown and Derrick Favors still undecided on another season at Georgia Tech, figure on plenty of influence from agents and their associates prior to the April 25 NBA early-entry deadline.

The pitch will be simple and to the point:

If you wait until 2011, you may not get paid until 2012.

Oh, there most certainly will be a 2011 NBA Draft. Players will be selected. Teams will introduce their selections.

But then, within days of that process, the league also might shut down.

The sense among NBA insiders is that the issue with a potential 2011-12 lockout is not whether it can be averted, but rather how long it might last. A full season certainly is not out of the question.

So underclassmen who bypass this June's draft could find themselves without the opportunity to earn an NBA paycheck for two years.

Further, by not getting into the league next season, their "rookie clock" also could be reset for an additional season by a lockout, delaying the ability to move off the rookie scale and into free agency or an extension.

Generally, this is when prospects weigh their place in the draft, decide whether giving up a little in 2010 could result in far more in 2011.

Such, apparently, was Monroe's thinking, after Georgetown's unexpectedly swift NCAA Tournament demise.

But what underclassmen will have to consider is whether they can afford to go two years without a pro contract.

Next year, there might not even be an issue, unless overseas or minor-league paychecks will suffice. Staying in school in 2011-12 at least might provide a way to stay in shape.

But in terms of fiscal shape, figure on any player on the fence jumping into this year's pool.

Sink-or-swim time otherwise might not come for two years.

Ira Winderman writes regularly for NBCSports.com and covers the Heat and the NBA for the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

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I'd be all over that Stuckey move.

You could grab Cousins or Favors with the 5th pick and then grab Whiteside with the Knicks pick. If you can keep Ben for one more year to be the veteran presence, then your frontcourt is looking solid for next year with all kinds of potential for years to come. With Jerebko, Max, and CV still in the mix at the PF, you have all kinds of options to play with here.

At SF you still have three young guys that are growing in Jerebko, Daye, and Summers. That gives you the leverage to move Tay for a PG. And Tay's contract becomes increasingly tradeable as the year goes on.

That addresses the major areas of concern (PG, Frontcourt), and you still have the MLE to work with.

Whatever they do, they need a PG who makes everyone better and somebody who can play on the ball defense, regardless of their postion.

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Eric Bledsoe is a guy who is knocking on the door of the lottery. He is one guy I am watching closely during this tournament. Another guy I really like is Larry Sanders. I believe both those guys will go in the top 20.

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Eric Bledsoe is a guy who is knocking on the door of the lottery. He is one guy I am watching closely during this tournament. Another guy I really like is Larry Sanders. I believe both those guys will go in the top 20.

Eric Bledsoe can knock on the lottery's door, nobody is answering.

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The NBA D-League is abuzz this evening with the news that Manny Harris will soon be playing for one of their franchises next season. However, they're keeping their expectations low, there is a chance Manny could decide to take more money from a mid-level Greek or Spanish team to sit on their bench for the next three years before coming back to pursue his destiny as a junior high coach in Detroit.

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The NBA D-League is abuzz this evening with the news that Manny Harris will soon be playing for one of their franchises next season. However, they're keeping their expectations low, there is a chance Manny could decide to take more money from a mid-level Greek or Spanish team to sit on their bench for the next three years before coming back to pursue his destiny as a junior high coach in Detroit.

He has a counseling session on Euopean basketball tactics, set up with Antoine Joubert next Wednesday.

Edited by sportz4life

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With only 5 games and just 2 teams of interest, no update today. Washington and Golden State both lost, so no change there. I will have a full update after the Sunday games finish up.

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Here is a possible twist

Johnson Says He's Leaning Toward Staying at Syracuse -- NCAABB FanHouse

He will probably still enter the draft, probably just caught in the moment right now

I would not be surprised to see Greg Monroe and Evan Turner return too. Didn't Monroe already say he was coming back? Could you imagine how good Ohio St would be next year with Evan Turner?

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I would not be surprised to see Greg Monroe and Evan Turner return too. Didn't Monroe already say he was coming back? Could you imagine how good Ohio St would be next year with Evan Turner?

None of them are coming back..with 2011 a strike year..nobody will take the chance that there is a lockout for 2011/2012 season. Not one of these guys is staying it's all post NCAA loss talk.

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If there is a good chance of you going in the top 20 of the first round, always turn pro, always. You don't get the $60 million contracts in the NBA that the top picks get in the NFL with the huge signing bonus. All NBA rookies are on a salary scale and you can only negotiate +/- 20% of that number.

Your goal is to get to that second contract, that is the big payday. Since the earliest you can sign that extension is year 4, getting into the league a year early is important.

Plus like S4L said, the fact they are looking at a lockout means you might not get a paycheck for 2-3 years if you stay in school.

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None of them are coming back..with 2011 a strike year..nobody will take the chance that there is a lockout for 2011/2012 season. Not one of these guys is staying it's all post NCAA loss talk.

Regardless if it is smart or not, it is still a possibilty. I mean why would they want to compete with Manny Harris and Deshawn Sims for draft slots. That's a battle they don't want to fight.

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Regardless if it is smart or not, it is still a possibilty. I mean why would they want to compete with Manny Harris and Deshawn Sims for draft slots. That's a battle they don't want to fight.

Turkey has a draft??

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Impressive game for Epke Udoh today. He looks worthy of a lottery pick to me. He went 18 and 10 with 5 blocks. His season averages are 14 and 10 with 4 blocks. I see him as a very low risk pick for some team late in the lottery. His ceiling might not be as high as others but he should still be a very good player. I would love an elite shot blocker like him for the Pistons but he will probably be a reach for where we are picking.

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How bad do you want to acquire a second top 12 pick?

Would you do Prince for Brand and their #1 pick? Philadelphia might entertain that idea. Especially if they end up in the 10-12 spots.

You get the pick, but take on a injury prone player who is a shell of his former self. Plus he is owed $50 million in the next 3 years.

What about Utah? Stuckey for Koufos and their #1 pick from the Knicks? If Utah keeps Boozer they probably want to win now and might prefer a 2 guard with some seasoning instead of a rookie.

Koufos is a bum, but he is only 20 and on a cheap rookie contract. If he improves, bonus for Detroit. If he doesn't you cut him and he costs almost nothing. Plus you get the pick you wanted.

But that means Bynum is your starting PG next year. Unless they can trade for one or sign with the MLE.

Not sure how valid any of those moves are or if they even work. Just trying to start some conversation.

What is the price for trading down in the NBA? I wish there were a team with a late lottery pick and another mid first round pick. Miami has two mid first round picks but the 5th overall pick seems like too much to give up for that.

I feel like this is a deep draft for forwards/centers and I would love to get two of those guys.

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Updated standings after the games on Sunday, 3/28. Do we suck enough to catch Washington or Golden State? I would say we have the 6th spot almost locked up. I can't see us winning 3 of 9 and the other teams not winning anymore games.

Chicago and Toronto might start swapping spots in and out of the lottery/playoffs. I am not deleting Chicago or adding Toronto. I don't care enough about that end of the lottery to do the work to add Toronto.

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What is the price for trading down in the NBA? I wish there were a team with a late lottery pick and another mid first round pick. Miami has two mid first round picks but the 5th overall pick seems like too much to give up for that.

I feel like this is a deep draft for forwards/centers and I would love to get two of those guys.

You don't get these high picks that often (Hopefully). I would prefer to use the pick plus trade one of our current players for a mid round pick. Go big with both picks, get a PG via trade and things are looking somewhat better.

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Updated standings after the games on Sunday, 3/28. Do we suck enough to catch Washington or Golden State? I would say we have the 6th spot almost locked up. I can't see us winning 3 of 9 and the other teams not winning anymore games.

Minnesota is on a 16 game losing streak, and Washington on a 15 game losing streak....although the Pistons have lost 9 straight, I think those two organizations are slimey enough to lose out the remaining of their games.

The Pistons will probably finish no lower than 5th-worst.

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