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I believe decisions about Ordonez and Guillen will determine what they do in the trade market.

This isn't even assumption, this is just fact.

If Guillen can come back and hit well, odds are, he'll do so as our full time DH, which rules out Dunn. And while I expect them to release Ordonez, as it makes too much sense, but with Guillen, we could get a good bat for nothing, which would also be a plus, but a wait and see approach.

Our starters don't seem to be the problem, it's the offense, and it's pretty clear that we need a spark there, and it could be Guillen, but it could very easily not be... We have to wait and see. And if we release Ordonez, I expect that we'll try and add a decent replacement in RF.

I hope DD can work something out during the All-Star break.

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This isn't even assumption, this is just fact.

If Guillen can come back and hit well, odds are, he'll do so as our full time DH, which rules out Dunn. And while I expect them to release Ordonez, as it makes too much sense, but with Guillen, we could get a good bat for nothing, which would also be a plus, but a wait and see approach.

Our starters don't seem to be the problem, it's the offense, and it's pretty clear that we need a spark there, and it could be Guillen, but it could very easily not be... We have to wait and see. And if we release Ordonez, I expect that we'll try and add a decent replacement in RF.

I hope DD can work something out during the All-Star break.

Who's to say Guillen is going to return soon enough? He's not coming back this week and their next game isn't until the 17th.

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InfanteIago; I think Guillen, how he looks in batting practice, will give them an idea of the degree of bat they'll need going forward.

If while watching him hit, which I thought I read that he's doing now, but if they like what they see, they might want to wait and only add a mid level bat, but, well, if he doesn't look 100%, they might want to add a bigger bat, hoping that whatever Guillen can give them is simply a bonus.

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InfanteIago; I think Guillen, how he looks in batting practice, will give them an idea of the degree of bat they'll need going forward.

If while watching him hit, which I thought I read that he's doing now, but if they like what they see, they might want to wait and only add a mid level bat, but, well, if he doesn't look 100%, they might want to add a bigger bat, hoping that whatever Guillen can give them is simply a bonus.

He took BP yesterday for the first time in 2 months. I still think he might be a couple weeks away.

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He took BP yesterday for the first time in 2 months. I still think he might be a couple weeks away.

I understand that, but I hope they can look at him and get an idea of what they have right now, going forward, better than us here .. that's all.

When is the trade deadline?

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I understand that, but I hope they can look at him and get an idea of what they have right now, going forward, better than us here .. that's all.

When is the trade deadline?

July 31st if you don't want to try and sneak a guy through waivers.

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I think Adam dunn has a couple of relatives on this board.... NO to Dunn! He doesn't fit the team! No sarcasm either.

Adam Dunn: .266 .402 .546 .948

Marcus Thames: .257 .328 .514 .842

Ryan Raburn: .287 .364 .519 .882

Even if you think Thames and Raburn will keep up that production (they won't) he'd still be a massive upgrade for the DH spot.

Never mind that if you got rid of Magglio and his OPS which is nearly 300 points lower than Dunn's you could DH Dunn and still have Thames and Raburn in the field.

Dunn gets brought up a lot because he has played for bad teams pretty much his entire career and has been talked about as a trade candidate at the deadline...pretty much his entire career. Their are plenty of other guys who could be an upgrade at DH as well.

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Adam Dunn would be an awesome addition, LH power bat, great OPS, and a guy that can protect Miguel Cabrera, which I think we need.

But the downer .. and really, the only downer .. is that Dunn would only fit on our team as a DH, which if Guillen can come back, negates where we can put and use Guillen, because the field is nowhere for either Dunn nor Guillen. I like that Dunn hits for power from the left side, and walks.

I keep reading that we'll have to pay Ordonez, either way .. if we release or keep him, that if he gets his proper ABs or whatever, that his vesting years will kick, with us on the hook for all that money. Before we discuss anything, we need to figure out on what the truth is with all that.

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Id like to see them go after Juan Pierre now that Manny is back he may want a chance to play everyday and might be cheaper then some of the other options out there. Getting on base at a good rate this year (.380obp). Would allow us to move Grandy down to drive in runs as he is not setting the table well this year. Would also be able to end the Josh Anderson experiment. I believe that he may be able to be had for something like Raburn and a minor league pitcher like Satterwhite or a starter instead of a RP like Hamilton. Raburn would have a lot of value to an NL team as a bench player being able to play multiple positions.

never trade the only guy on the team that is hitting. Ryan has value to us, he's hitting .280 now and can play multiple positions. They are finally giving the guy regular time, they need to keep himf or that

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Juan Pierre career: .301 .348 .373 .721

Juan Pierre this June: .264 .319 .309 .628

Amount of money Juan Pierre is making: lots

He hasn't been a good hitter in a long time, and his great May led to a horrible June. no thanks.

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Juan Pierre, past five seasons:

2009 .797 OPS, .386 OBP, .328 BA

2008 .655 OPS, .327 OBP, .283 BA

2007 .685 OPS, .331 OBP, .293 BA

2006 .717 OPS, .330 OBP, .293 BA

2005 .680 OPS, .326 OBP, .276 BA

So which season appears to be the outlier?

No, thank you. We have better in-house options already.

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I think Adam dunn has a couple of relatives on this board.... NO to Dunn! He doesn't fit the team! No sarcasm either.

How does he not fit the team? Because he is extremely proficient at hitting? I guess that would be true.

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How does he not fit the team? Because he is extremely proficient at hitting? I guess that would be true.

I think it's because Dunn is LH, we need more right handed hitters.

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How does he not fit the team? Because he is extremely proficient at hitting? I guess that would be true.

Because the guy playing RF now isn't a defensive statue .. the way he's is stinging the ball, he reminds me of Rosie O'Donell before she got off the juice..

Plus their current DH..is outstanding against RH pitching..the move makes absolutely zero sense.

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Juan Pierre, past five seasons:

2009 .797 OPS, .386 OBP, .328 BA

2008 .655 OPS, .327 OBP, .283 BA

2007 .685 OPS, .331 OBP, .293 BA

2006 .717 OPS, .330 OBP, .293 BA

2005 .680 OPS, .326 OBP, .276 BA

So which season appears to be the outlier?

No, thank you. We have better in-house options already.

LIke he is hitting with a swizzle stick.

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Juan Pierre, past five seasons

I want to first say that I have no interest in this team acquiring Pierre in any manner.

Not that any of his stats are very good, but why would you even list his OPS? Slugging is not why anyone would acquire him. OBP and steals are the stats that matter for a guy like Pierre.

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Just emphasizing the fact that he is a pure singles hitter, and that he doesn't get nearly enough walks to fully utilize his speed. Also wanted to show that his 2009 SLG is an abberation, but yeah I could have used SLG instead of OPS there.

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How does he not fit the team? Because he is extremely proficient at hitting? I guess that would be true.

he doesn't fit because he is a liability in the field and you don't trade for a DH unless his name is George Herman Ruth.

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you don't trade for a DH unless his name is George Herman Ruth.

Why? Ideally, you want somebody who can hit and field but your stance is pretty extreme. What about Edgar Martinez. Would you have traded for him in is prime?

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Why? Ideally, you want somebody who can hit and field but your stance is pretty extreme. What about Edgar Martinez. Would you have traded for him in is prime?

It was a beautiful thing watching Edgar hit.

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