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6/4. Stanley Cup Finals, Game 4! Red Wings @ Penguins. 8:00pm on Versus & CBC.

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The last five cup winners all LOST game 3.

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Presents the following thread:

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2 @ 1

Your defending Stanley Cup Champion

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AT

The Pittsburgh Penguins

This game is a presentation of:

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GAME 4

Location: Mellon Arena, Pittsburgh, Pa.

Date: Thu., June 4th, 2009

Time: 8:00pm EST

Television Broadcast Provided by:

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The VERSUS network

DirecTV channel 603

Radio Broadcast Provided by:

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XM Radio: Channels 204/205

Goaltending Matchup:

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Det. - Chris Osgood (14-5) 2.00 GAA .927 sv%, 1 SO

Pit. - Marc-Andre Fleury (13-7) 2.63 GAA .906 sv%

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Recap of the Wings Game 3 loss to the Penguins:

Red Wings 2, Penguins 4

Inconsistent officals catalyst for Pens' Game 3 win

PITTSBURGH -- Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin may be the faces of these Pittsburgh Penguins, but Sergei Gonchar is their heart and soul.

The veteran Russian defenseman proved that Tuesday night at Mellon Arena in Game 3 of the Stanley Cup Final in a 4-2 win over the Red Wings that took Pittsburgh's championship dreams off life support -- at least temporarily.

Gonchar scored a power-play goal midway through the third period -- a slapper through traffic that found the five-hole between the legs of Chris Osgood -- to give the Penguins the lead for the second time in the game.

Max Talbot scored two goals for Pittsburgh and Evgeni Malkin had assists on the first three goals, while goalie Marc-Andre Fleury made 27 saves, stopping the final 17 shots he faced after Johan Franzen gave Detroit a 2-1 lead midway through the first period.

But it was Gonchar who contributed most to the win, a victory that puts his Penguins back in this best-of-7 series. Pittsburgh now has a chance to even things up Thursday night in Game 4 here (8 p.m. ET, VERSUS, CBC, RDS, NHL Radio).

The mere fact that Pittsburgh isn't talking about that Game 4 with a sense of dread is because of the brilliance -- and composure -- of Gonchar.

Despite a balky right knee that has hampered him since suffering a knee-on-knee hit in Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Semifinals against Washington, Gonchar played a team-high 22:29. In addition to scoring the game-winner, he also assisted on Kris Letang's power-play goal that tied the game at 2-2 late in the first period.

But the game-winner was the signature moment of his inspiring performance Tuesday night.

"The timing was good," Gonchar said of his goal. "We finally we get a win; that's more important."

It is that humble, team-first attitude that makes Gonchar the emotional compass of this team.

"He's a real warrior," Pittsburgh forward Bill Guerin told NHL.com. "Honestly, he's a quiet guy; he doesn't say much. He lets his play speak for itself. Not just in this dressing room, but around the League, I think, there is a tremendous amount of respect for him."

Gonchar has had to battle all season just to be on the ice.

He missed the first five months of the season, rehabbing from surgery to repair a shoulder injury suffered in the preseason, and didn't return until Feb. 14.

Fellow defenseman Brooks Orpik said the whole team was inspired by the effort it took Gonchar to get back into the lineup.

"We would show up here at 9 in the morning for a 10:30 practice and he would already be here for two hours," Orpik told NHL.com. "He was getting here before the trainers because he was so committed to getting back here. He's just a real team guy. He does it in a real quiet way."

It wasn't long before another challenge loomed for Gonchar, though.

In Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Semifinals, he crashed knee-on-knee into Alex Ovechkin, crumbling to the ice in excruciating pain.

"After the game, we thought he was done for the year, based on what the doctors were telling us," Orpik admitted.

Instead, the Russian defenseman missed just two games. He returned to play in a do-or-die Game 7 against Washington. He didn't play much, but his mere presence settled down the Penguins, who romped to a 6-2 victory.

He settled the Penguins again Tuesday -- this time with their season once again on the line. A loss in Game 3 of the Final and the Penguins were done. Climbing out a three-games-to-none hole isn't happening against the defending champs.

But if any of the Penguins were nervous about that prospect, the fear dissipated just by looking at Gonchar in his dressing room stall during the pregame preparations.

"What a leader," said Talbot, who sits almost directly across from Gonchar. "It's funny because me and Sid were actually talking about him right before the game. You look at him and he's just so clam, he's just so relaxed and poised. You look in his eyes and you know he is ready.

"What a shot he did tonight. He definitely got a huge goal for us."

Of course Gonchar got the huge goal. After all, isn't that what heart-and-soul guys are supposed to do?

Notes:

Johan Franzen scored Detroit's second goal and he deserved it. The Wings were on the power play, enjoying an attack-zone faceoff. But Henrik Zetterberg was thrown out of the circle by the linesman for jumping the draw. Franzen stepped in and beat Jordan Staal clean to draw the puck back to the point. A few seconds later, he was in the right-side circle to accept a pass by Zetterberg and fire it home. It was Franzen's first draw of the game and just the 39th of the playoffs.

Pittsburgh forward Chris Kunitz knew that the Penguins would have to set a physical tone at home to help the crowd get into the game. So he went out and threw five hits in each of the first two periods before finishing with 11 hits for the game. After two periods, Detroit was credited with only 12 hits, just two more than Kunitz alone in that same span.

Detroit's first goal came in the middle of a line change. Pittsburgh coach Dan Bylsma tried to get his top line, centered by Sidney Crosby, out against Detroit's fourth line after a whistle; but, Detroit gained possession and began a line change in an attempt to get Henrik Zetterberg's line on the ice in a checking role. That change was only half completed when Ville Leino, a fourth-liner, centered the puck to Zetterberg, a first-liner, for a successful one-timer.

The second period of Game 3 was the first time in this series that neither team scored a goal. Each of the previous seven periods featured at least one goal. Also, the four goals in the first period were the most scored in any one period of the series. In fact, the first two games ended with just four goals being scored in each game.

Pittsburgh owner Mario Lemieux, who won two Stanley Cups as a player, dropped the puck in the ceremonial faceoff before Game 3. He was greeted with a thunderous ovation. Detroit's Marian Hossa, who played for Pittsburgh last season, was not so lucky. He was viciously booed every time he touched the puck during the game.

Series Schedule:

Saturday, May 30, @Detroit 3, Pittsburgh 1

Sunday, May 31, @Detroit 3, Pittsburgh 1

Tuesday, June 2 @Pittsburgh 4, Detroit 2

Thursday, June 4 at Pittsburgh, 8:00 pm VERSUS, CBC, RDS

Saturday, June 6 at Detroit, 8:00 pm NBC, CBC, RDS

* Tuesday, June 9 at Pittsburgh, 8:00 pm NBC, CBC, RDS

* Friday, June 12 at Detroit, 8:00 pm NBC, CBC, RDS

Series 3 Results:

Sunday, May 17, @Detroit 5, Chicago 2

Tuesday, May 19, @Detroit 3, Chicago 2, OT

Friday, May 22 @Chicago 4, Detroit 3, OT

Sunday, May 24 Detroit 6, @Chicago 1

Wednesday, May 27 @Detroit 4, Chicago 3, OT

Series 2 Results:

Friday, May 1 @Detroit 3, Ducks 2

Sunday, May 3 Anaheim 4, @Detroit 3, 3OT

Tuesday, May 5 @Anaheim 2, Detroit 1

Thursday, May 7 Detroit 6, @Anaheim 3

Sunday, May 10 @Detroit 4, Anaheim 1

Tuesday, May 12 @Anaheim 2, Detroit 1

Thursday, May 14 @Detroit 4, Anaheim 3

Round 1 Results:

Thursday, April 16 @Detroit 4, Columbus 1

Saturday, April 18 @Detroit 4, Columbus 0

Tuesday, April 21 Detroit 4, @Columbus 1

Thursday, April 23 Detroit 6, @Columbus 5

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And now for the Wings good mojo portion of the thread. For the GDT, I used the same pic as the one in the Cup winning thread. As noted in the GDT, the last five cup winners in a row dropped game 3.

The music mojo:

Metallica - "All nightmare long" YouTube - Metallica - All Nightmare Long [HD] Specifically because it leads with "Luck. Runs. Out." and i've heard the song about 6 times during work today.

John B - "Red Sky" YouTube - John B - Red Sky Red Wings, Red Sky, blah blah blah. Plus its a kick *** D&B song.

Now, to the pic mojo.

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http://www.redwingscentral.com/redwingscorner/blog_item.php?itemID=tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-296543054485757967

Bad sign

By Bruce MacLeod - Red Wings Corner / June 4, 2009

Pavel Datsyuk is still on the ice working out with Chelios, Kindl, Abdelkader, Lilja. When players are in games, they skate for 20-30 minutes in the morning. Datsyuk is at 75 minutes of a hard workout. Very unusual for someone playing that night.

UPDATE: Datsyuk just got off the ice after a 90-minute hard workout. He said that he'll be in the pregame skate and will decide after that. Datsyuk said that he worked out three times longer than usual in the morning skate to test himself further, to see how his legs would react to more of a game-like situation.

That said, a 90-minute hard workout in the morning is a very unusual thing to do the day of a game.

still a little worried about the chances of Datsyuk playing

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You guys will love this. Both the article and the pic.

From the National Post, listing 4 Conn Smythe candidates: Zetterberg, Osgood, Franzen and ...

Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh

Though it is unlikely that the Penguins captain would win the trophy if his team loses in the final, he would be a lock to win MVP if the Penguins manage to orchestrate a successful comeback. Crosby headed into Game 3 ranked first in playoff scoring with 14 goals and second with 28 points.

Uhh, hello, Malkin maybe?! I'm a fan of Sid when he's playing the 28 teams that are not the Wings, but sometimes the Canadian media cracks me up. And as for the U.S. media ...

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Greg Wyshynski for Yahoo notes how Ozzie bounces back from games in which he gives up 3 or more goals like he did in Game 3:

But if history tells us anything, it's that Chris Osgood isn't one of those questions marks. Argue all you want about his "elite" status or Hall of Fame credentials. The bottom line is that he's the last goalie you want to see after scoring three or more goals on him in the previous playoff game.

Before surrendering three goals in Game 3 on Tuesday night, Osgood had given up three or more goals in 10 playoff games over the last two postseasons -- five times in both 2007-08 and 2008-09.

But in his last 37 playoff games, Osgood has never given up three or more goals in back-to-back games; his goals against average in those follow-up games is a formidable 1.74.

His record in those games, after giving up at least three goals in the previous contest?

That would be 8-2.

Now, this might speak more to the ability of the Detroit Red Wings team to rebound from losses or poor efforts. But Osgood is very much a part of that resiliency, and he appears to be the last cause for concern for his teammates and his coach.

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He was probably trying to put a thorough test on his foot. Have faith!

Agreed. I'm looking at the fact that he practiced for that long as a positive sign, not a negative.

So here's to the hopeful.....

RETURN OF DATSYUK!!!

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on TSN Sportscenter right now, Darren Dreger says consensus of media this evening seems to be that Datsyuk WON'T play. But Dreger think he WILL play. Beside him, Pierre McGuire guesses Datsyuk WON'T play.

But let's be honest, other than Pavel himself, who the hell knows.

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on TSN Sportscenter right now, Darren Dreger says consensus of media this evening seems to be that Datsyuk WON'T play. But Dreger think he WILL play. Beside him, Pierre McGuire guesses Datsyuk WON'T play.

But let's be honest, other than Pavel himself, who the hell knows.

If PP McCrosby says he isn't playing, then he is. Cuz they guy has proved he's an idiot in this series. And I know idiots. I'm one! :)

Have a fun game guys and galss. (Have we ever had a girl post in the hockey threads?).

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If PP McCrosby says he isn't playing, then he is. Cuz they guy has proved he's an idiot in this series. And I know idiots. I'm one! :)

Have a fun game guys and galss. (Have we ever had a girl post in the hockey threads?).

I tried to get my other half, but she don't like hockey..

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Have a fun game guys and galss. (Have we ever had a girl post in the hockey threads?).

I think wolverinefan did a few games ago.

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So I correctly predicted the into music CBC used on Tuesday....Let's see if I can do it again.

I say they will use Take Back The City by Snow Patrol tonight.....

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Bruce MacLeod Twitter:

Datsyuk didn't work with a line during warmups. Looks like he's NOT playing tonight.

dang

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