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If the recent behavior issues due not stop here in the Political Discussions forum, I will be shutting it down.

We've always tended to "look the other way" in regards to the political forum, but the personal attacks and insults on members posting in this forum has gotten out of control. It's to the point that I don't wish to be bothered with this type of discussion much longer.

So if you enjoy discussing politics, leave out the personal attacks on each other and keep the discussion going.

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Its kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. No doubt personal attacks will continue. However, if the political forum is removed, political discussions and personal attacks will just poison the other forums.

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Its kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. No doubt personal attacks will continue. However, if the political forum is removed, political discussions and personal attacks will just poison the other forums.

So what you're saying is that it's impossible to carry on a political discussion without attacking someone personally. Do you honestly believe that?

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Talk politics is a no-no to me. Politics should be taken personally, hence, the personal attacks happen. Maybe not on purpose, but then it steamrolls.

Just my thoughts.

I stay out of the political discussion, most of the time.

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So what you're saying is that it's impossible to carry on a political discussion without attacking someone personally. Do you honestly believe that?

I think that people are more likely to interpret the probative nature of a political discussion to be personal. Some for instance would consider your above question wherein you challenge the veracity of the previous poster to be a personal attack in and of itself.

I also think that the political discussion leads to rhetorical techniques that others consider less than fair, and the challenging of those techniques are interpreted as personal attacks as well.

Perhaps the term "personal attack" needs to be more specifically delineated for purposes of defining prohibited behavior.

I for one am not bothered by attacks about me or my positions or my reasonings. I only get really off put by attacks that inappropriately smear my wife and children. I also think I can take a jibe and retort accordingly with the best of them ... and I think I can back off and tone it down when one suggests I've gone too far.

Finally, I often feel most filial with those I disagree with the most. In other words, Couga, Bill, Pfife and Buddha are pains in the arse, but they are my pains in the arse.:classic:

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My brother used to work on the Senate staff in Lansing (he's a Democrat, by the way), and he told me one time the most frustrating thing about working there was that people "don't get that the party thing isn't personal."

I don't understand why that's hard to understand.

I do think, though, that sometimes when people who are not the primary participants read the threads, they may seem nastier than they really are. I personally like just about everyone on the political board, although there are a few I suppose I don't care for all that much, but this has virtually no correlation at all to where people fall on the political spectrum.

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My brother used to work on the Senate staff in Lansing (he's a Democrat' date=' by the way), and he told me one time the most frustrating thing about working there was that people "don't get that the party thing isn't personal."

I don't understand why that's hard to understand.

I do think, though, that sometimes when people who are not the primary participants read the threads, they may [i']seem nastier than they really are. I personally like just about everyone on the political board, although there are a few I suppose I don't care for all that much, but this has virtually no correlation at all to where people fall on the political spectrum.

And, in the "it's a small world" comment of the day: I used to work with OMF's brother in Lansing...

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And, in the "it's a small world" comment of the day: I used to work with OMF's brother in Lansing...

Did you guys know of this before he just mentioned it?

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Did you guys know of this before he just mentioned it?

Yeah. We figured it out awhile back. I don't remember how. I think he mentioned something about it, or I mentioned who I used to work for and then it went from there.

Surprise, surprise, but the two of them look alike. However, I can't imagine their politics are too similar considering who we were working for at the time.

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I think that people are more likely to interpret the probative nature of a political discussion to be personal. Some for instance would consider your above question wherein you challenge the veracity of the previous poster to be a personal attack in and of itself.

I also think that the political discussion leads to rhetorical techniques that others consider less than fair, and the challenging of those techniques are interpreted as personal attacks as well.

Perhaps the term "personal attack" needs to be more specifically delineated for purposes of defining prohibited behavior.

I for one am not bothered by attacks about me or my positions or my reasonings. I only get really off put by attacks that inappropriately smear my wife and children. I also think I can take a jibe and retort accordingly with the best of them ... and I think I can back off and tone it down when one suggests I've gone too far.

Finally, I often feel most filial with those I disagree with the most. In other words, Couga, Bill, Pfife and Buddha are pains in the arse, but they are my pains in the arse.:classic:

Bravo, my worthy foe. And OMF, too. I agree 100 percent.

I don't mean anything personally on here, and I don't take anything personally.

But yes, the standards could stand to be raised in here. The way I see it, you can call my ideas and viewpoints anything you want, but when they are directed at me specifically, I think that crosses the line. To me, "Your idea is extremely stupid" is fine, whereas "you are extremely stupid" is over the line. I think that despite all the debate on here, there's ony a few people who regularly cross the line. But, IMHO, that's wheere the line should be drawn. Questioing people's personal lives should be strictly prohibited.

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Yeah. We figured it out awhile back. I don't remember how. I think he mentioned something about it, or I mentioned who I used to work for and then it went from there.

Surprise, surprise, but the two of them look alike. However, I can't imagine their politics are too similar considering who we were working for at the time.

That would have been either Sen. Pollack or Sen. Wheeler-Smith. After Sen. Pollack left the Senate, she became a publisher and I did some writing for her. Weird, eh?

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No kidding! My wife went to school with Pollack and was in her wedding!

just kidding

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That would have been either Sen. Pollack or Sen. Wheeler-Smith. After Sen. Pollack left the Senate' date=' she became a publisher and I did some writing for her. Weird, eh?[/quote']

I worked with Lana. My grandparents were friends with her, so I got an internship for the summer. Alma was still working there and wasn't "Senator Wheeler-Smith" at that point. I didn't work that often with Gus, but did for a few weeks.

I was mostly the office cut up. He was actually doing real work.

As for the meaning of this thread, I've pretty much quit the political forum, so maybe that will quiet things down a bit?

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So what you're saying is that it's impossible to carry on a political discussion without attacking someone personally. Do you honestly believe that?

Yes. While some poster will be able to remain civil, there will always be posters that will not abide by the rules. Outlawed behavior will stop for a shot time period and then begin again. :tired:

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Yes. While some poster will be able to remain civil, there will always be posters that will not abide by the rules. Personal attacks will stop for a shot time period and then begin again. :tired:

So we need to keep reminding people then.

Don't rely on others doing so, everyone does it when they feel people are going too far. Easy.

And can we keep this stickied up the top for a long while as well btw to remind ourselves about it whenever we come here?

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As for the meaning of this thread, I've pretty much quit the political forum, so maybe that will quiet things down a bit?

Now hopefully they don't find the Premiership threads. :happy:

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As for the meaning of this thread, I've pretty much quit the political forum, so maybe that will quiet things down a bit?

Where's the sport in that?

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Oh man, I read the title of this thread and had a very bad flashback to 2nd grade parent teacher conferences.

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Oh man, I read the title of this thread and had a very bad flashback to 2nd grade parent teacher conferences.

"We're not mad, we're disappointed..."

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Where's the sport in that?

Meh. It was taking up too much of my time.

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I worked with Lana. My grandparents were friends with her, so I got an internship for the summer. Alma was still working there and wasn't "Senator Wheeler-Smith" at that point. I didn't work that often with Gus, but did for a few weeks.

I was mostly the office cut up. He was actually doing real work.

So you were such a clown that you made my brother look like a hard worker by comparison?

That's no easy task.

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Meh. It was taking up too much of my time.

dude, last time i was around you had 10k posts! :)

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