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(Hm? The era ended in 1999 for most - it's been vacant since!)

With the auctioning of stadium memorabilia and the frequent press coverage the stadium's been getting lately, it's clear that demolition of the old ballpark has begun.

More details: From what I have learned:

  • The "TIGER STADIUM" lettering at the corner, on the old Tiger offices, has been removed and is being sent to the Detroit Historical Museum. The blue paneling at the corner, which has the fading Tigers logo, has also been removed.
  • A vast majority of the seats inside the stadium, including those that have not been issued for sale, have been dismantled and removed.

A thread with news about the demo seems appropriate. I know that I'll be home this weekend and I'll probably stop by and take a few photos. It'll be interesting to see what the site looks like as more and more of the stadium is removed.

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It's funny because for three years in a row, I left the city thinking I had just seen that stadium for the last time. This year, I still took some pictures, but I felt that it would still be there in 2008. The corner probably will look very different when I make my next trip to see the Tigers.

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i know this is an interesting topic and whatever...but this thread needs to be demolished! too sad

Or better yet you just not read it.

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Hopefully the conservancy will save some......

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2007/10/nonprofit_submits_plans_for_sa.html

Nonprofit submits plans for saving part of Tiger Stadium

by Corey Williams | The Associated Press

Thursday October 18, 2007, 6:36 AM

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The Old Tiger Stadium Conservancy proposes to keep part of the stadium and also develop a Detroit sports museum.DETROIT (AP) -- The Old Tiger Stadium Conservancy has submitted its proposal to save a portion of the ballpark as the city moves forward with demolition plans for other parts of the aging structure.

Demolition bids for most of the stadium will go out in about two weeks and could be approved in November with actual dismantling the following month, Brian Holdwick said Wednesday.

Holdwick, a vice president of financial services for the Detroit Economic Development Corp., was part of the team reviewing the Conservancy's proposal.

"What they presented is consistent with what they were talking about from day one," Holdwick said, adding that it won't stop the city from moving forward with plans to demolish the 95-year-old ballpark.

The nonprofit organization, which counts Hall-of-Fame broadcaster Ernie Harwell as a member, submitted about 200 pages of cost estimates and business plans, project manager Jeff Wattrick said.

The Conservancy wants to keep about 3,000 seats from dugout to dugout and the entire infield. The $10 million to $12 million project could be developed into a museum commemorating the city's sports history.

"We included some information about how we are going to get the funding. That's pretty basic in terms of reaching out to corporate donors and foundations," Wattrick said.

"They view it as realistic, so long as we can raise the money," Wattrick said. "With all the bluster about Tiger Stadium, if metro Detroit and baseball fans across the country can't help us come up with that for Tiger Stadium, maybe it's time for it to go."

The Conservancy had an Oct. 15 deadline to submit its plans, but Wednesday was the earliest the two sides were able to meet. The next deadline is March 31 when the Conservancy must show pledges or commitments for funding.

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"They view it as realistic, so long as we can raise the money," Wattrick said. "With all the bluster about Tiger Stadium, if metro Detroit and baseball fans across the country can't help us come up with that for Tiger Stadium, maybe it's time for it to go."

Very good point. Those public figures that want parts of the structure saved need to put their money where their mouth is.

From yesterday's Free Press:

Wayne County to get drivetrain plant

October 17, 2007

BY ALEJANDRO BODIPO-MEMBA

FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER

Corporate expansion projects could bring 670 jobs to four Michigan communities over the next year.

On Tuesday, the Michigan Economic Development Corp. and Gov. Jennifer Granholm announced that Camshaft Machine Co., the Tiger Stadium project, a refinery expansion at Marathon Petroleum Co. and a factory for Neapco LLC will get state help to provide boosts to the state's economy.

...

• At Detroit's Tiger Stadium site, a proposed $20-million mixed-use development project is expected to result in 70 jobs. The plans include construction of 90 to 100 lofts and condominiums and up to 40,000 square feet in commercial space. State and local tax support of $2.9 million will help finance demolition of the abandoned structure and removal of contaminated materials, relocation or installation of utilities and resurfacing of adjacent streets.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071017/BUSINESS06/710170363/1019/BUSINESS06

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The party's over. Time to move on. The fat lady is going to sing soon enough.

Maybe, maybe not.......

Would you visit the place if it was turned into a museum?

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Maybe, maybe not.......

Would you visit the place if it was turned into a museum?

See I would say no. I would go once...maybe twice but as with a lot of museums once you have seen it, its tough to come up with a reason to go back.

I think a better plan is to go ahead with the museum, then do the membership thing. $50 for free admission for a year and support the TSC. Heck I'd pay $50 a year to keep the site alive. I'm sure others would too.

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The blue paneling at the corner, which has the fading Tigers logo, has also been removed.

Here is the blue paneling (before picture). I'd love to see some "after" pictures if anyone has had a chance to take any!

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If it's a museum how much stuff could actually go there? Would it warrant multiple visits? I just don't see a museum as being a self sustaining thing.

I did my thing in 1999. Now it's just a rotting building to me.

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See I would say no. I would go once...maybe twice but as with a lot of museums once you have seen it, its tough to come up with a reason to go back.

I think a better plan is to go ahead with the museum, then do the membership thing. $50 for free admission for a year and support the TSC. Heck I'd pay $50 a year to keep the site alive. I'm sure others would too.

I would say I would go once a year, at least, and definitely pay $50 to keep the site alive. Depending on what use they could get from the rest of the site (commercial, residential, or amateur games) that number would fluctuate.

My point about the museum and if you would go was sorta directed at those who could care less if a salvage yard was at the corner.

There are many people still not giving up from many sides to help create somehthing historic and unique at the corner and I think they deserve alot of credit if they get somehting done...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpMfsgOhMk

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Why is there such a push to have a museum on that site? Why not take some of the stuff and add it to the things in Comerica Park. That way everyone can enjoy them each time they come to the park, and allow the piece of property that Tiger Stadium is currently on to be redeveloped? The area certainly needs help.

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because Comerica Park is Mike Ilitch.

I still think a strip mall would be nice. Get a check cashing place, a wig store, video game store, and maybe a McDonald's.

Seriously, I'd like to see something like ESPN Sports Zone incorporated into it. With the proximity to the new MGM casino it's really not that far from the Campus Martius area which is not far from Comerica Park. If you could get something solid at the TIger Stadium site and then fill in the gaps it'd be a halfway decent downtown area.

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Originally Posted by G.Reaper

But many collector items remain for sale, including seat backs, signs, newspapers and bricks. Those who want to buy leftover items can stop by the stadium near Gate 8 and make an offer.

Hey Dan, could you elaborate on location and hours ?

Thanks again, my seats are great.

Yep.

Hours are 8 am to 6 pm everyday including weekends. We are at the back of the stadium near fisher freeway and trumbull.

everything is first come first served. CASH only

Dan

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Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!

Just got my shipping notice! They will be in beautiful Liberty Lake on Monday the 29th!

Too bad they aren't a couple of days earlier as my wife is throwing a baby shower for a friend's kid on Sunday and they could take turns sitting in the seats! Now THAT would make it a great party!

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Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!

Just got my shipping notice! They will be in beautiful Liberty Lake on Monday the 29th!

Too bad they aren't a couple of days earlier as my wife is throwing a baby shower for a friend's kid on Sunday and they could take turns sitting in the seats! Now THAT would make it a great party!

Glad to hear they are finally coming. I wonder if you are the farthest the seats have to travel to their new home?

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I'm surprised this never made it here (unless I missed it), but here is a link to the Tiger Stadium demolition/preservation plans that were included in the Detroit Economic Growth Corp's request for demolition proposals. Credit for the link goes to TigersFan9, who originally posted this on the DetroitYES forum. Just thought I'd share for those that hadn't yet seen it...

http://www.mediafire.com/?1fwmujcjczj

(Note: This link will take you to a download page -- the plans are in a 60MB PDF so it will take a bit to download)

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Yeah, I thought it was pretty interesting, too...

What I don't quite understand is that it seems they are just keeping from dugout to dugout, along with the lower deck (and clubhouses, etc that are below), and then *part* of the upper deck. (Ie. they are keeping the first few rows of the upper deck then chopping off the upper half of that deck and old 3rd deck pressboxes, roof, etc...see last page) I assume the motivation is that you need to keep part of the upper deck to save the broadcast booth as it hangs between the upper/lower deck, however it seems a bit wierd though as it begs the question: "What will this thing look like...?". Will they put a few rows of seats on the upper deck, or will they cap it to make a little roof, or what... (not to mention that would probably be a hard job to dismantle part of the upper deck...)

I guess we'll all eventually find out... <grin>

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Yeah, I thought it was pretty interesting, too...

What I don't quite understand is that it seems they are just keeping from dugout to dugout, along with the lower deck (and clubhouses, etc that are below), and then *part* of the upper deck. (Ie. they are keeping the first few rows of the upper deck then chopping off the upper half of that deck and old 3rd deck pressboxes, roof, etc...see last page) I assume the motivation is that you need to keep part of the upper deck to save the broadcast booth as it hangs between the upper/lower deck, however it seems a bit wierd though as it begs the question: "What will this thing look like...?". Will they put a few rows of seats on the upper deck, or will they cap it to make a little roof, or what... (not to mention that would probably be a hard job to dismantle part of the upper deck...)

I guess we'll all eventually find out... <grin>

I thought those plans were interesting too, I'm not how those plans relate to what the RipkenDesign team may want to do? Link: http://www.ripkendesign.com/news.asp#Tigers

Detroit, MI: RMD Hired as Lead Consultant on Tiger Stadium Renovation

In July 2007, Ripken Management & Design was hired as lead consultant to the Old Tiger Stadium Conservancy to consult on the reconstruction and programming options for Tiger Stadium, former home of the Detroit Tigers. As part of our agreement, RMD has performed a feasibility study to analyze the stadium’s use as a baseball and event facility. In addition RMD has worked closely with the Conservancy’s chosen architect Hamilton Anderson Associates, to maximize programming and baseball spaces. RMD will soon take on the task of creating a variety of field renovation options for the conservancy to help restore the field into the elite venue it once was.

As part of our agreement, RMD will:

• Perform a complete economic feasibility analysis that outlines all programming and facility options and makes specific recommendations to maximize the social and economic impact of a renovated Tiger Stadium.

• Create renderings to illustrate the stadium’s refurbished spaces.

• Present options for a complete field refurbishment, creating an elite playing field for public use in Detroit.

• Present programming options for the area’s Youth, High School, College and Adult baseball and softball players.

• Develop facility layout recommendations to maximize the stadium’s interior spaces.

• Work closely with the Old Tiger Stadium Conservancy to create a one-of-a-kind baseball and historical destination in the heart of Detroit.

Sure would like to see the upper deck from 1st to 3rd saved, but at this point any of the stands and field saved is fine by me.

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I'm totally with you, deadcenter~440. I know I'm not "in the know", but since they are apparantly keeping part of the upper deck, it seems to me that the cost to preserve the entire upper-deck/3rd-deck from dugout to dugout would not be that much more...plus I'm sure it would cost a good amount to complete that surgical 1/2 upper-deck demolition.

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New Info: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080422/NEWS01/80422033&GID=wxqCba4bzWOa1npzotxehGL5MJa1QgTG+j58i5QSwbc%3D

Here is the story from the Free Press:

Contract awarded for Tiger Stadium demolition

By JOHN GALLAGHER • FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER • April 22, 2008

The wrecking ball could start swinging within a month to knock down the bulk of old Tiger Stadium under a contract awarded today.

Detroit’s Economic Development Corp., a quasi-public arm of the city, awarded the demolition contract to a joint venture of MCM Management Corp. of Bloomfield Hills and The Farrow Group of Detroit. The team will tear down the stadium at no cost to the city and make its money by selling the scrap, estimated to run $1 million or more in value.

The current plan calls for one corner of the stadium, from dugout to dugout, to be saved for conversion into a community center and museum. A non-profit group based in the Corktown neighborhood called the Old Tiger Stadium Conservancy is working to raise an estimated $15 million to pay for the conversion.

However, the conservancy is now working under a tight deadline of June 1 to come up with at least $369,000 to pay the EDC to cover six months’ worth of security and maintenance. If that money is not in hand, the EDC will proceed with demolishing the entire stadium, said George Jackson, president of the Detroit Economic Growth Corp.

With the demolition contract awarded, the actual process of tearing down the bulk of the stadium can begin as soon as the MCM/Farrow team signs the contract and gets its crews organized. That will probably be in place by sometime in May, said Scott Veldhuis, a project manager with the DEGC.

Contact JOHN GALLAGHER>/b> at 313-222-5173 or gallagher@freepress.com.

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