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Ok, im posting this here because a: Im pretty excited about it, and b: Im pretty sure that the NBA isnt going to expand into Las Vegas anytime soon. Here is the article.


LAS VEGAS -- Casino giant Harrah's Entertainment Inc. announced Wednesday that it will partner with AEG, the company that brought David Beckham to the Los Angeles Galaxy, to build a 20,000-seat arena in Las Vegas capable of housing an NBA or NHL team.

The $500 million arena, behind the Bally's and Paris hotel-casinos on the Las Vegas Strip, is projected to open in 2010. It's a step toward attracting a pro sports franchise to a city that has tried to persuade reluctant league officials to look past its legalized sports betting.

The deal puts a dent in Mayor Oscar Goodman's plans to have an arena built downtown with the help of tax breaks, but he said such plans would go forward. The site for the Harrah's-AEG arena, a block east of the Strip, is in unincorporated Clark County, outside city limits.

Gary Loveman, the chief executive of Harrah's, which is being bought by two private equity firms in a $17.1 billion deal, said the development was "very much a part of our master plan for Las Vegas."

Harrah's has yet to fully detail its long-awaited vision to link or redevelop its nine hotel-casino properties in Las Vegas, including Caesars Palace, Flamingo, Harrah's and Bally's, which are near the same intersection.

"It's our ambition to create a place that transcends a series of hotels," Loveman said. "The presence of a state-of-the-art events center of this size provides a reason for people all around us on the Strip to come into our neighborhood."

AEG, a subsidiary of Denver billionaire and Qwest Communications founder Philip Anschutz's Anschutz Co., owns the Galaxy and the Staples Center in Los Angeles and has booked such acts as Celine Dion and Bette Midler at Caesars Palace. It said it was in talks with professional leagues and potential team owners about bringing hockey or basketball to Las Vegas.

"It just so happens 2010 is an opportune time for an expansion team in Vegas for either or both [leagues]," said Timothy Leiweke, president and chief executive of AEG.

NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly said the arena announcement "positively impacts the prospects of Las Vegas attracting a major-league franchise" but said there was "nothing new to report" regarding league expansion or the NHL's intentions about a team in Las Vegas.

"That is a matter our Board of Governors would have to consider at an appropriate time," he said in a statement.

The NBA, which has appointed a committee to study a proposal by Goodman to locate a franchise in Las Vegas, postponed meetings after the league was rocked by a betting scandal involving one of its referees. The city hosted the NBA All-Star Game in February, but commissioner David Stern said the league was not likely to return without a modern arena.

A key factor in the decision for AEG to build on the Harrah's site was the "200,000 hotel rooms within walking distance," Leiweke said. "I don't know any place else like it on the face of the Earth."

An annual preseason game between the Los Angeles Kings and the Colorado Avalanche in Las Vegas usually sells out, and there was good support for the Las Vegas Wranglers minor league hockey team, he said.

Even without a sports franchise, the arena will be financially viable by hosting concerts, boxing matches and other events, and the likely sale of naming rights, he said. In a recent deal, AEG sold such rights to what is now the O2 Arena in London to the U.K. cellular phone company for $12 million a year, he said.

Until now, events such as big boxing matches, mixed martial arts fights and concerts have largely been held at the aging Thomas & Mack Center on the UNLV campus or at Strip properties owned by MGM Mirage Inc., at the MGM Grand Garden Arena or Mandalay Bay Events Center.

MGM Mirage spokesman Alan Feldman said the company welcomed the competition.

"The people that come for concerts and conventions, we're confident they'll visit more than one place on the Strip and we're confident they'll visit at least one of ours," he said. "Anytime anyone adds value to the Strip, that's a good thing."

Goodman said the deal does not slow down city plans for a proposed $9.5 billion sports arena with casino, retail and residential uses on 85 acres downtown, put forth by Michigan-based REI Group LLC.

Any team that wants to locate in Las Vegas could now shop between two large venues for a home, he said.

"With the competition, they're going to be able to get a better deal," Goodman said. "So it's a win-win."

Jon Weaver, the president of REI, criticized the Harrah's-AEG plan because it would rely on Strip tourists for its fan base. He said the downtown site was geared more to residents.

"I think it would be very discouraging have an arena to be filled by folks from out of town wanting to see their home team play in Las Vegas," he said. "I don't think that would be a very successful model."

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press

A couple thoughts:

The parking where they have this planned out will be a NIGHTMARE. In the heart of the strip, where there are only two or three two lane streets around the arena location. (not counting the strip.. :dead:)

I will then have two teams to root for, the expansion team and the Wings. I just hope the Vegas team is in the East, but I dont think that will happpen. Atleast ill be able to go to Wings games again. =)

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I really hope they NHL isn't considering any more expansion. Please move one of the teams with no fan base instead.

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Would the arena have a clock or would the teams just keep playing as long as both still felt lucky?

*Bravo* :classic:

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Vegas would certainly be better than Florida. I've seen plenty of pictures this year of the crowds at Panthers game and it has to be less than 1,000. Get them out of there - move them to either Vegas or Quebec City. Quebec City would easily draw 10,000 a game for a few season.

3 teams need to move.

Florida is drawing 51% capacity of SOLD tickets. Most of them aren't showing

Carolina is 63% capacity (SOLD)

Arizona is 71% capacity (SOLD)

Everyone else is over 83%. Winnipeg is drawing 100.1% and they are showing up for the most part. A full smaller arena is better than a big empty one. Quebec or Hamilton would certainly follow the Winnipeg example. Quebec City already has the arena, it will be ready in September 2015. Capacity of over 18,000.

Here's what you do.

Florida Panthers to Quebec (as the Nordiques)

Arizona Coyotes to Las Vegas (they'll change the name and image)

Carolina to either Seattle, Hamilton or Milwaukee - all cities that would support a hockey team.

Enough trying to build hockey in places where nobody plays it as a kid. It's not going to work. It's just not. Dallas was the exception.

I implore you to go find some pictures of Florida Panthers attendance. It's pathetic. I know some people here seem to think the owners are committed to Miami. Maybe they should just be committed. The only viable reasons I could think of for an owner to keep them there is as some kind of tax write-off or money laundering (not even joking there).


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