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I'm way more annoyed by this trend now than I was four years ago. Yesterday I saw a tip jar at a liquor store. WTF? I'm waiting for them to start cropping up in banks and grocery stores.

My tip is pennies. I don't like them. So when I get them in change, I separate them from the silver and plop them onto the counter for whoever wants them. You know, need a penny, take a penny, have a penny, leave a penny.

Well, that's your tip. Now bugger off.

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Living in Las Vegas, I see them ev-er-y-where.

You would be amazed what tourists think is tip-worthy though, so I guess you can blame Las Vegas.

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I just hate the communal nature of it. What if there is a hard working person and a total slacker? The slacker gets an equal cut. Tip boxes are communist in nature.

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I ignore those jars at places like Starbucks, where the employees are only doing exactly what they're paid to do. No tip necessary.

But there is one instance where I tip, even when most people wouldn't. It's Chas' situation in the first post. If I call in an order and pick it up, the person who puts together the order is likely not waitstaff, but a host/hostess or something similar. Anyway, they take my food, pack it in a container, package it up, and pull out and bag napkins/plasticware/handiwipes/whatever. For that person, I give a tip. Not 20% like I normally would, but a buck or so.

They did more than there normal duties to prepare my food for takeout, so I give them a little sumpin' sumpin'.

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I ignore those jars at places like Starbucks, where the employees are only doing exactly what they're paid to do. No tip necessary.

But there is one instance where I tip, even when most people wouldn't. It's Chas' situation in the first post. If I call in an order and pick it up, the person who puts together the order is likely not waitstaff, but a host/hostess or something similar. Anyway, they take my food, pack it in a container, package it up, and pull out and bag napkins/plasticware/handiwipes/whatever. For that person, I give a tip. Not 20% like I normally would, but a buck or so.

They did more than there normal duties to prepare my food for takeout, so I give them a little sumpin' sumpin'.

This is EXACTLY how I do it. I was a host at a nice restaurant back in the day and used to have to get together and bag up the take out orders on top of my normal duties running the front. It is more work than people realize. When I pick up a take out order I tip...like you said linecrosser, a buck or 2 and nowhere near the 20% I start with when we eat in somewhere, but noway I stiff those people.....the Starbucks guy? (I do not go in Starbucks, but for the sake of comparrison) Would get nothing from me.

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This is funny. For the first time ever I went to a starbucks drive thru in Bristol, and I noticed the tip box right outside the window. No way was I gonna' tip.

BTW, the coffee was bitter and overpriced.

Tim Hortons rocks.

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Some of you sound so strident and offended.

Sheesh.

Tip if you want to. Don't tip if you don't.

You can usually determine if some extra work was done and might warrant a tip.

You can also just drop in loose change if you don't want to carry it.

....but if it's causing you distress to see the tip jar, LOOK AWAY! DON'T STARE AT THE JAR!

lol.

funny.

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....but if it's causing you distress to see the tip jar, LOOK AWAY! DON'T STARE AT THE JAR!

lol.

funny.

Now what if the Tip Jar is looking at you? Should you look away or is that considered bad manners?

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Some of you sound so strident and offended.

Sheesh.

I have carefully considered your criticism, and I have concluded that I simply don't care what you think about it.

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In university, I for some odd reason worked at a Pita Pit to gain extra drinking money and I was flabergasted by the fact that the owners/franchisees actually kept the money from our tip jar. I didn't last long. Did I mention we had to pay for our uniforms too?

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In university, I for some odd reason worked at a Pita Pit to gain extra drinking money and I was flabergasted by the fact that the owners/franchisees actually kept the money from our tip jar. I didn't last long. Did I mention we had to pay for our uniforms too?

You know, I have frequently womdered how often the owners keep some or all of the tips from the tips jar. I would bet it is a disheartingly high percentage, particularly among places that rely on immigrant help.

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In university, I for some odd reason worked at a Pita Pit to gain extra drinking money and I was flabergasted by the fact that the owners/franchisees actually kept the money from our tip jar. I didn't last long. Did I mention we had to pay for our uniforms too?

That is garbage.

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I have carefully considered your criticism, and I have concluded that I simply don't care what you think about it.

oh, woe is me. I'll lose sleep over this.

wait.

No I won't.

I'm just amused by how much of a snit people get into over little things.

I, of course, have my own set of little things that I get into a snit over.

C'est la vie.

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oh, woe is me. I'll lose sleep over this.

wait.

No I won't.

I'm just amused by how much of a snit people get into over little things.

I, of course, have my own set of little things that I get into a snit over.

C'est la vie.

Ah ... a counterpoint to consider.

Hmm ...

Nope—still don't care.

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I think tipping is one of those things where you have to have once been in a situation of receiving tips to appreciate the value in giving them. We all know to do the obligatory 20% dining out (if you can't afford to tip, then cook at home motto), but customer service can be rewarded in tipping. I used to work at a Marina fueling, docking, and pumping waste out from the multimillion dollar yachts during the summer as a college job. It was fascinating by the tipping patterns we would notice:

The 1% Rich (50' yachts or above) were either extremely generous tippers ($100-$20) or the goose-egg ($0).

The upper middle class with their 25-32' 'boats' are most consistent tippers. Approximately $5 each time.

Then others that never tipped. We insisted on giving excellent customer service to every customer, even though we knew the ones that didn't tip. We did appreciate though the tips, as it showed they appreciated our efforts. Were we doing our job? Of course. Tipping, in my opinion, can be given for any situation in customer service (except chain stores, etc.) that you appreciated their efforts. A good example was this past weekend we went to the local farmer's market. The farmer explained some things about the current crop, etc. Shook our hands... one of those things that we didn't ask for our change from the bill and he was extremely pleased.

Tipping is a kind gesture. Also remember that tipping originates back to the 18th century English pubs, where tipping ensured superior service.

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I think tipping is one of those things where you have to have once been in a situation of receiving tips to appreciate the value in giving them.

I think this nails it. Great point.

If you've been in that position, or have had family members who have been, you get it.

That works both ways, actually... you have some insight into what's "tippable", what's the wait-staff's issue(good or bad) and what isn't, and what that extra $$ might mean.

Tipping is a kind gesture.

This is why some people get it and some don't.

I won't name names....... :classic:

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I think tipping is one of those things where you have to have once been in a situation of receiving tips to appreciate the value in giving them. We all know to do the obligatory 20% dining out (if you can't afford to tip, then cook at home motto), but customer service can be rewarded in tipping. I used to work at a Marina fueling, docking, and pumping waste out from the multimillion dollar yachts during the summer as a college job. It was fascinating by the tipping patterns we would notice:

The 1% Rich (50' yachts or above) were either extremely generous tippers ($100-$20) or the goose-egg ($0).

The upper middle class with their 25-32' 'boats' are most consistent tippers. Approximately $5 each time.

Then others that never tipped. We insisted on giving excellent customer service to every customer, even though we knew the ones that didn't tip. We did appreciate though the tips, as it showed they appreciated our efforts. Were we doing our job? Of course. Tipping, in my opinion, can be given for any situation in customer service (except chain stores, etc.) that you appreciated their efforts. A good example was this past weekend we went to the local farmer's market. The farmer explained some things about the current crop, etc. Shook our hands... one of those things that we didn't ask for our change from the bill and he was extremely pleased.

Tipping is a kind gesture. Also remember that tipping originates back to the 18th century English pubs, where tipping ensured superior service.

Well said!

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Another thing to consider: the tip jars may have started to appear because customers were already tipping.

I worked at a local coffee chain where we had a tip jar for that reason. At one point, the management had all of them removed for the reasons people have listed in this thread... only to receive literally hundreds of calls from customers who told them that they tipped because they wanted to and that the tip jars should be put back.

If you don't want to tip, then don't. As CapitalTigers said, chances are you'll be given the same customer service whether you do or don't.

Only thing is, that based on the Pita Pit post, you might want to make sure the tips are going to the employees. Ugh.

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I've probably shared this here but..........

When I delivered pizzas, we remembered who tipped and who didn't. If we were out on a double/triple and you were a bad tipper, regardless of the logistics, you got your pizza last.

I am years removed from that job and I still remember the houses that were bad tippers as I drive by them.

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I've probably shared this here but..........

When I delivered pizzas, we remembered who tipped and who didn't. If we were out on a double/triple and you were a bad tipper, regardless of the logistics, you got your pizza last.

I am years removed from that job and I still remember the houses that were bad tippers as I drive by them.

I see a difference, though. To me pizza delivery is a job in which it's pretty obvious that it's a tippable service, such that a bad tip/no tip is seen as a slight. When I worked in the coffee shop, we were paid an hourly wage and while tips were appreciated they weren't expected (if that makes sense).

When I worked as a hostess the delivery staff did the same things you did, though.

Edit: in my case, I preferred a pleasant, nice customer whether or not a tip was left... if you were a nice customer, I would bend over backwards to try to accommodate a request even if wasn't the usual way we did things. If you were typically rude, arrogant, or cruel (quite common in the Coolidge Corner neighborhood, unfortunately)? Not so much.

Edited by Lousluggage

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I worked at a local coffee chain where we had a tip jar for that reason. At one point, the management had all of them removed for the reasons people have listed in this thread... only to receive literally hundreds of calls from customers who told them that they tipped because they wanted to and that the tip jars should be put back.

The customers felt they couldn't tip any longer, because there was no jar? Strange.

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