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Included in the 18 undrafted free agents which the Lions signed was Syracuse running back James Mungro. This is a great pickup for the Lions. He's a tremendous back with speed and has a great ability to make some plays. He's not very big, but he's been durable here, has a great work ethic, and has amazing agility.

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Speed? I have him down for a 4.59 40. Not at all a prospect, but the Lions have openings, if he can play special teams.

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40 times are way overrated. Emmitt Smith only ran a 4.55 40, and I think he turned out to be a pretty decent back.

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Speed overrated? Ask the Lions last year. They need fast players, and they'll have that in the backfield this year with Avion Cason and Luke Staley backing up Stewart. They can't have slow runners. Not in this offense.

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I'm just wondering, but they always say players are faster on artifical surfaces... How does the new field turf that the Lions will use effect speed, since it is a closer substitute to real turf?

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MWG, I'm real anxious to see how the new turf will play out. To compare, it's also used in Tropicana Field by the D-Rays, so it's hard to really tell. Mungro has a real steep hill to climb, IMO. I think the coaching staff will be set on keeping no more than 4 RB's; with Stewart, Cason, Staley and Lamont Warren well ahead of him. The Lions signed other undrafted free agents with much better chances to stick including Mike Collins of Ohio State, Eddie Drummond of Penn State, and Josh Thornhill (because the Lions have no depth at LB) of MSU. Also, if Mungro was a tremendous back with speed, why didn't he get drafted?

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Originally posted by cruzer1

MWG, I'm real anxious to see how the new turf will play out. To compare, it's also used in Tropicana Field by the D-Rays, so it's hard to really tell.

Don't they also use a similiar type turf in Philly and at the University of Washington where the Seahawks have been playing?

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I never said speed was overrated. Not at all. I said that 40 times are overrated. Fast 40 speeds don't necessarily mean fast game speed, and vice versa. Tons of RBs come out of college with 4.3-4.4 speed, and can't do anything. Someone like Emmett comes out with a 4.55/40 and below average size, and all he has done is become of the most dominant running backs of our time. I bet Blair Thomas was bigger and faster than him, he was picked higher, and who would you rather have on your team?

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I've been watching Mungro for years now and I'm thrilled the Lions picked him up. If the Lions give him a chance he could really be something. Here's something else... he does NOT fumble.

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I'd also seen Mungro play a couple of times, but he hardly got the ball. He has some ability, but his best case scenario is to show enough ability to land on the practice squad. The only problem is that he's an older (24) player, so he must flash. The Lions coaching staff will be more focused on Avion Cason, because he does flash, although he has average hands. Luke Staley is a sure bet to back up Stewart, and if he's healthy, he might even challenge Stewart. Lamont Warren will be kept for his recieving ability only. Mungro definitely has a steep hill to climb.

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This was a below average year for running backs, and he didn't get drafted. He's nobody worth arguing about. If he's lucky, he'll be able to play in the European league. Their fullback, Kyle Johnson was a much better player imo. They had a good (not great) tackle in P.J. Alexander. They had a good, not great TE (Graham Manley). Dwight Freeney was by far their best player, but I (and others) have major questions of how he'll stand up every down in the NFL. Quentin Harris and Willie Ford are also decent prospects. Besides Freeney, Syracuse doesn't really lose a whole lot of talent, and should be a force to be reckoned with next year. Especially with Miami losing so much of their talent.

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I agree with your comments about Alexander and Manley, but not Kyle Johnson. Johnson was average at best. Mungro's a great back, and the NFL is filled with players that were underrated in the draft... and some that weren't drafted at all.

And we're not losing much outside of Freeney and Mungro. We have a very young team. A QB that's going to be a junior, and receivers that are going to be sophs and juniors. With Miami losing so much this could be a big year.

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Kyle Johnson was drafted in the fifth round by the Carolina Panthers, and has an inside track to a starting fullback/h-back role.

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A lot of talk about a guy who might make the practice squad.

I hope he lives up to your praise MCO, because right now this team has nothing much to boast about at halfback. Fullback on the other hand.....

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Actually, the Lions are in decent shape at HB, and are 4 deep. With Cason and Staley, they now have some decent speed. They could live with this group until the right (franchise type--with speed) comes along. They could also replace Stewart with Ricky Watters, but I'd prefer Stewart. The Lions have other positions with greater need (corner, tight end, linebacker).

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The Lions finally gave Mungro the chance the showcase his talents, and showcase them he did! The Lions would be fools not to keep him. Cason can't hold onto the ball, Warren is mediocrity in every sense of the word, and Stewart will be injured any minute now.

Mungro for tailback!

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granted cruzer, I'm writing this with the hindsight of 3 months and two preseason games but to say

the Lions are in decent shape at HB, and are 4 deep
is crazy i think.

stewart is a 3 yd/carry back but has absolutely no breakaway ability whatsoever, NONE. i'd much rather have waters, especially in a WC offense. Staley was injured last year and was a longshot when he was drafted. Cason has speed but is a 3rd down back at best. Warren can catch the ball but is a good 3rd stringer and poor backup.

for what the lions plan on doing this year (maybe .500) this group will suffice but i don't agree that we're deep here.

MCO- mungro showed some nice moves and adequate speed tonight. i could see him as #2 behind stew. and if stew gets hurt i hope we look to the unsigned pool.

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I didn't watch/listen to the game first-hand (since we don't have Exhibition coverage here in Phoenix), however, I heard how Drummond had a solid game at WR and am wondering if he would make the practice squad....

I' somewhat can't fathom as to why they don't expand Foster's role on the team... Either place him at FB (to capitalize on his speed) and even have him do PR/KR's....

I would love if the Lions still pursued Rickey Watters, however, he is of course out of their budget... One option might be to release Desmond Howard just to provide them some cap-relief and perhaps re-work some more contracts in addition to that...

Cason should probably be #3 and it's best they release Warren, since he's nothing more than a 3rd down back anyways.....

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